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George Floyd killing the trial.
As people may or may not be aware the trial over the alleged murder of George Floyd is currently going on. This trial is likely to be the trial of the decade, if not century and will very likely have huge historical connotations whichever way the outcome goes.
I am trying to watch as much of it as I can so I can remain informed.
So far I remain of the opinion that it was deliberate intentional murder and that the cop will likely be acquitted. as for whether the alleged murder had racial motivation I am unable to determine because I dont know how I could verify this. without info on the cops views which I am assuming are not publicly available.
I feel this should be discussed since it will have a very big impact on the world as a whole.
I am trying to watch as much of it as I can so I can remain informed.
So far I remain of the opinion that it was deliberate intentional murder and that the cop will likely be acquitted. as for whether the alleged murder had racial motivation I am unable to determine because I dont know how I could verify this. without info on the cops views which I am assuming are not publicly available.
I feel this should be discussed since it will have a very big impact on the world as a whole.
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Will he be acquitted? Probably not. But I'm betting all sides will remain unhappy afterwards.
Important case, undoubtedly. At least in America.
To lighten the mood, 1 of my favourite Law jokes about another celebrated case:-
"Knock, knock."
"Who's there?"
"OJ."
"OJ who?"
"Welcome to the jury."
I understand its a tough issue as if the police are penalised to often then it can handicap them and leave them scared to do their job in altercations where force is necessary.
On the flip side here we put trust in the police and police have a position of power and how can people feel safe if the police abuse this?
Ultimately I believe this should be resolved based on the evidence of the case and I feel of what I have seen so far the cop who alleged murdered George Floyd deserves either live without parole or the death penalty.
I think with that in mind I will likely not feel like justice has been served once this trial is concluded.
The defence will attempt to throw Floyd under a bus, but the video footage is damning (and sickening)
Be very pleasantly surprised (for want of a better expression) if he is found guilty of murder; see what comes out in the wash of the trial.
Saw some footage of the opening statements from prosecution and defence....one sounded confident and the other a little flustered. Doesn't take a genius to work out which was which.
Different country. Different state. Different rules.
My guess is he will be convicted of the equivalent of Manslaughter. And all sides will go berserk. Because all sides seem to think that the jury and legal arguments are irrelevant in matters like this.
My purely personal point of view is that Manslaughter would be right. Part of the problem is the power given to police in the US, as well as what happened. That is why bystanders (including other Officers) felt they could do nothing.
The most important thing is not retribution. But systemic change.
I watched most of Day One.
One of the witnesses was an absolute car crash.
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Lawyer: Where are you from?
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Lawyer: what part?
Alisha: Arizona
Lawyer: all of Arizona, the whole state?
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If anyone wants to watch the Trial "Live", in real time, it's being shown on Court TV, Channel 179 on Sky.
btw you can also find live coverage on sky via youtube which is what I am watching.
from what I have gathered from witness testimony so far it seems the police officer was told multiple times by multiple people that he was endangering the guys life and just either did not care or wanted the kill.
If the cop gets acquitted it will be a huge outrage.
If this State is like many others, the key question may well be whether he intended to cause him serious harm. And that is going to be far closer.
The defence can throw out any number of reasons why Floyd might have passed away (drugs, enlarged heart, Covid....all red herrings) but an officer was filmed kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes, using the weight of his body as he casually had his hands in his pockets and ignored pleas from pedestrians and Floyd himself.
Whether the defendant set out that day to murder a suspect, black or otherwise, we'll never know and in all probability it's unlikely. That doesn't exonerate Chauvin's actions though.
But to ignore a subdued man who is literally fighting for every last breath as you slowly choke him to death on the road....I really hope the prosecution can convince the jury of the (perceived intent) and get the book thrown at him.
It was a very tough watch tonight.
At least we can answer the key question though. Excessive force? Absolutely.
However in this case it just gets more and more damning the more I watch.I just cannot see any reasonable way the his actions can be justified.
If this guy gets acquitted there will be riots and protests world wide. Rightly so to.
The only debate to be had in my eyes is whether Chauvin should get the death penalty or life without parole.
Seems the defence is all over the place with a scattergun approach; trying to use the crowd, the neighbourhood to go down the line of the officer's safety being in question (lol)
They also want Floyd to have been alive as long as possible, so 'ideally' for their case he passed away in the ambulance and not under the knee of Chauvin.
Unfortunately for them, the medical response witnesses were very aware that he was effectively dead on their arrival and any subsequent attempts to resuscitate him were futile.
He was alive upon being taken to the ground, and died under the knee of Chauvin, who didn't at any point attempt any first aid or medical care and he actually threatened someone who tried to help.
The image of the medic trying to take Floyd's pulse with the knee still on his neck is just gross.
Not looking good for the defence, and it seems Chauvin's own police colleagues ain't gonna do him any favours.
See what today brings.
I now think the most appropriate action is to hang Derek Chauvin in the public square whilst the public throw rotten fruit and veg at him as he chokes to death.
However I know this is not realistic so I hope he gets 40 years the max sentence.