Yes I'm not disputing that or anything, I've already said she was in the act of seemingly trying to knife someone else. This clearly calls for immediate action by the police first on the scene.
But are you telling me there was no alternative than to shoot her 4 times and kill her?
The system is clearly flawed, and officers really lacking in training, if a 16 year old girl with a knife can only be dealt with by fatally shooting her.
Shoot first, ask questions later as a default policy is so bad.
The Westminster Police officer has been placed on administrative leave while an internal affairs investigation takes place over Wednesday's incident. Cellphone footage shows the officer and another cop forcibly take the woman down before he starts punching her in the head. A third officer immediately scolds the officer as his peers push him away from the woman.
This is part of the wider problem; perhaps too many people working for the police who really shouldn't be?
Training will only go so far....if a 20+ year veteran can't tell the difference between a taser and a handgun then no amount of training in the world can compensate for that.
The shooting of the 16 year old girl with the knife is a scenario where absolutely the police should be trained better to deal with that situation without automatically resorting to a hail of bullets and a dead teenage girl.
Obviously it's not a competition but traffic stops are inherently more dangerous for the person pulled over than for the police.
Unfortunately incidents like in the OP will happen, police on both sides of the pond do get killed in the line of duty and it's a tragedy every time.
Another reason why I'm very glad we don't have even a fraction of the gun culture prevalent in America, resulting in the bulk of our police not needing to armed and thus avoiding the all too common daily scenes witnessed over in the States.
This is part of the wider problem; perhaps too many people working for the police who really shouldn't be?
Training will only go so far....if a 20+ year veteran can't tell the difference between a taser and a handgun then no amount of training in the world can compensate for that.
The shooting of the 16 year old girl with the knife is a scenario where absolutely the police should be trained better to deal with that situation without automatically resorting to a hail of bullets and a dead teenage girl.
Obviously it's not a competition but traffic stops are inherently more dangerous for the person pulled over than for the police.
Unfortunately incidents like in the OP will happen, police on both sides of the pond do get killed in the line of duty and it's a tragedy every time.
Another reason why I'm very glad we don't have even a fraction of the gun culture prevalent in America, resulting in the bulk of our police not needing to armed and thus avoiding the all too common daily scenes witnessed over in the States.
What struck me about this stop was,
Firstly, he pulled the guy over to inform him that his window tint was a little too dark. Although it was difficult to pick up any tint in the later video.
Secondly, he surely didnt check who he was pulling over, as he would have taken more precautions, had he known he was pulling over a violent criminal.
I have seen many US traffic stops on tv, and they usually get the driver to put both hands out of the window and approach the drivers side. Where a known criminal is involved they usually stand a safe distance from the suspects vehicle, weapon drawn, get the driver to exit the vehicle, walk backwards towards them, with their hands on their head, and their fingers interlaced, before cuffing them.
This guy approached the suspects vehicle on the passenger side, giving him an immediate opportunity to shoot him. He spots the rifle, and asks the suspect to hand it over. He doesnt draw his own weapon. Then lets the guy exit the vehicle with the rifle. They were meant to be heading to the officers vehicle to carry out further checks. Why didnt he do the checks before stopping him? Why didnt the officer take the rifle through the window?
The officer didnt seem to have his own safety as a priority, and paid a horrific price.
Being a US Police Officer seems to be a thankless, and very dangerous job.
Yes I'm not disputing that or anything, I've already said she was in the act of seemingly trying to knife someone else. This clearly calls for immediate action by the police first on the scene.
But are you telling me there was no alternative than to shoot her 4 times and kill her?
The system is clearly flawed, and officers really lacking in training, if a 16 year old girl with a knife can only be dealt with by fatally shooting her.
Shoot first, ask questions later as a default policy is so bad.
No alternative in this case. His swift action saved the life of another.
Yes I'm not disputing that or anything, I've already said she was in the act of seemingly trying to knife someone else. This clearly calls for immediate action by the police first on the scene.
But are you telling me there was no alternative than to shoot her 4 times and kill her?
The system is clearly flawed, and officers really lacking in training, if a 16 year old girl with a knife can only be dealt with by fatally shooting her.
Shoot first, ask questions later as a default policy is so bad.
No alternative in this case. His swift action saved the life of another.
No alternative whatsoever than to shoot her 4 times?
A Virginia sheriff's deputy shot an unarmed Black man 10 times after he called 911 for help
A Virginia sheriff's deputy shot a Black man ten times after he called 911 for help.
The same deputy gave Brown a ride home earlier in the day from a gas station after his car broke down.
Brown was unarmed at the time and his family told NBC4 that they don't understand why he was shot.
Police have yet to explain what caused the deputy to open fire on Brown, but the Virginia State Police released a statement on Wednesday that said that the deputy "attempted to verbally engage with Brown" before shooting him.
3 people were killed in a shooting in Austin, Texas. The suspect, a former sheriff's deputy, was arrested after a daylong manhunt.
Three people were killed in a shooting in Austin, Texas, Sunday morning.
The suspect, former sheriff's deputy Stephen Broderick, has been arrested, per local reports.
One of the victims has been identified as college football recruit Willie Simmons.
Three people were killed in a Sunday morning shooting in Austin, Texas. The suspect, a former sheriff's deputy, was arrested Monday morning after a 20-hour-long manhunt, local reports said.
A Virginia State Trooper has been fired following a viral video that shows him threatening a black man during a 2019 traffic stop. Trooper Charles Hewitt pulled over Derrick Thompson in Fairfax County on April 20, 2019. Video of the incident went viral, showing Hewitt looking into Thompson's cell phone camera and declaring: 'Watch the show, folks.' He then tells Thompson: 'You're going to get your a** whooped!' Thompson's lawyer, Joshua Erlich, said he was told in talks held during settlement of a lawsuit that Hewitt was fired for cause in February. A spokeswoman for Virginia State Troopers, Corinne Geller, confirmed that Hewitt was no longer with the force, but said she was prohibited from releasing further details
A Virginia State Trooper has been fired following a viral video that shows him threatening a black man during a 2019 traffic stop. Trooper Charles Hewitt pulled over Derrick Thompson in Fairfax County on April 20, 2019. Video of the incident went viral, showing Hewitt looking into Thompson's cell phone camera and declaring: 'Watch the show, folks.' He then tells Thompson: 'You're going to get your a** whooped!' Thompson's lawyer, Joshua Erlich, said he was told in talks held during settlement of a lawsuit that Hewitt was fired for cause in February. A spokeswoman for Virginia State Troopers, Corinne Geller, confirmed that Hewitt was no longer with the force, but said she was prohibited from releasing further details
Being a terrible parent isn't justification to have your child murdered by the police, particularly after complying with the orders barked by the officer.
Brown kid shot dead, try and contain that excitement, it's creeping out.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9496957/Police-release-graphic-bodycam-video-911-calls-fatal-cop-shooting-Makhia-Bryant.html
But are you telling me there was no alternative than to shoot her 4 times and kill her?
The system is clearly flawed, and officers really lacking in training, if a 16 year old girl with a knife can only be dealt with by fatally shooting her.
Shoot first, ask questions later as a default policy is so bad.
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/04/23/6663130930704661840/636x382_MP4_6663130930704661840.mp4
The Westminster Police officer has been placed on administrative leave while an internal affairs investigation takes place over Wednesday's incident. Cellphone footage shows the officer and another cop forcibly take the woman down before he starts punching her in the head. A third officer immediately scolds the officer as his peers push him away from the woman.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9502361/California-cop-placed-leave-cellphone-footage-shows-punching-woman-HEAD.html
It was an absolutely terrible traffic stop, for which he paid very dearly.
Training can only be of value, if those being trained actually listen.
I am certain that this traffic stop bore no resemblance to the training manual.
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/04/11/7855926776967706192/636x382_MP4_7855926776967706192.mp4
Training will only go so far....if a 20+ year veteran can't tell the difference between a taser and a handgun then no amount of training in the world can compensate for that.
The shooting of the 16 year old girl with the knife is a scenario where absolutely the police should be trained better to deal with that situation without automatically resorting to a hail of bullets and a dead teenage girl.
Obviously it's not a competition but traffic stops are inherently more dangerous for the person pulled over than for the police.
Unfortunately incidents like in the OP will happen, police on both sides of the pond do get killed in the line of duty and it's a tragedy every time.
Another reason why I'm very glad we don't have even a fraction of the gun culture prevalent in America, resulting in the bulk of our police not needing to armed and thus avoiding the all too common daily scenes witnessed over in the States.
Firstly, he pulled the guy over to inform him that his window tint was a little too dark. Although it was difficult to pick up any tint in the later video.
Secondly, he surely didnt check who he was pulling over, as he would have taken more precautions, had he known he was pulling over a violent criminal.
I have seen many US traffic stops on tv, and they usually get the driver to put both hands out of the window and approach the drivers side.
Where a known criminal is involved they usually stand a safe distance from the suspects vehicle, weapon drawn, get the driver to exit the vehicle, walk backwards towards them, with their hands on their head, and their fingers interlaced, before cuffing them.
This guy approached the suspects vehicle on the passenger side, giving him an immediate opportunity to shoot him.
He spots the rifle, and asks the suspect to hand it over.
He doesnt draw his own weapon.
Then lets the guy exit the vehicle with the rifle.
They were meant to be heading to the officers vehicle to carry out further checks.
Why didnt he do the checks before stopping him?
Why didnt the officer take the rifle through the window?
The officer didnt seem to have his own safety as a priority, and paid a horrific price.
Being a US Police Officer seems to be a thankless, and very dangerous job.
His swift action saved the life of another.
A Virginia sheriff's deputy shot a Black man ten times after he called 911 for help.
The same deputy gave Brown a ride home earlier in the day from a gas station after his car broke down.
Brown was unarmed at the time and his family told NBC4 that they don't understand why he was shot.
Police have yet to explain what caused the deputy to open fire on Brown, but the Virginia State Police released a statement on Wednesday that said that the deputy "attempted to verbally engage with Brown" before shooting him.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/virginia-sheriffs-deputy-shot-unarmed-170931320.html
Three people were killed in a shooting in Austin, Texas, Sunday morning.
The suspect, former sheriff's deputy Stephen Broderick, has been arrested, per local reports.
One of the victims has been identified as college football recruit Willie Simmons.
Three people were killed in a Sunday morning shooting in Austin, Texas. The suspect, a former sheriff's deputy, was arrested Monday morning after a 20-hour-long manhunt, local reports said.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/3-people-dead-active-shooting-183112667.html
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2021/04/25/2734971958640098233/636x382_MP4_2734971958640098233.mp4
A Virginia State Trooper has been fired following a viral video that shows him threatening a black man during a 2019 traffic stop. Trooper Charles Hewitt pulled over Derrick Thompson in Fairfax County on April 20, 2019. Video of the incident went viral, showing Hewitt looking into Thompson's cell phone camera and declaring: 'Watch the show, folks.' He then tells Thompson: 'You're going to get your a** whooped!' Thompson's lawyer, Joshua Erlich, said he was told in talks held during settlement of a lawsuit that Hewitt was fired for cause in February. A spokeswoman for Virginia State Troopers, Corinne Geller, confirmed that Hewitt was no longer with the force, but said she was prohibited from releasing further details
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9509301/Virginia-trooper-fired-telling-black-driver-Youre-going-whooped.html
Brown kid shot dead, try and contain that excitement, it's creeping out.
42 year old black man shot in the back of the head by the police.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/26/us/andrew-brown-elizabeth-city-shooting/index.html