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Can't think of a suitable title but it regards the Afghan situation

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  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited August 2021
    vaigret said:

    chilling said:





    China and Russia have deals with Iran.
    Just filling in the blanks.

    China are cleverer than most of the world powers, they do it with trade, jaw, jaw not war war, their influence in the world grows and grows with no casualties for their military. Africa is a big case in point . Meanwhile the west continues to get into silly wars which just lead to destabilization.
    Indeed, but it’s the Cabal that takes the West into wars.
    China goes around the world buying up assets for their countries own needs.
    Their two priorities are food/meat and rare earths.
    They own the biggest pork producer in the US,have a big say in Australia and the South America’s.Food security is a big issue with the Chinese leaders. They haven’t got the land.
    So much of their land was polluted through the last 30years.
    The West is full of corruption,short term gain, no vision. An easy nut to crack.
    Russia could cripple Europe if they wished, cutting off energy.
    China could bring the world to a standstill if they wished, through manufacturing and if they did invade Tawain, through chips.
    Russia and China have the best hands.

    Remember Trump saying he’s done a deal with China to get them to buy more soy beans.
    The beans where for China’s pigs.

    Food is the route to bring folks out of poverty,which China has achieved.
    Folks work all day in some countries just to eat.




  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Recap.
    I don’t see that videos of ‘ terrorists’ training anywhere has much to do with invading a country.There are numerous countries a ‘ terrorist’ could be trained in.
    Did training videos have anything to do with hijacking planes,getting out of vehicles shooting the place up, driving vehicles into crowds, carrying bombs in rucksacks, Boston, Manchester etc, running about stabbing people. Unless those vids were to inspire.








  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    chilling said:

    vaigret said:

    chilling said:





    China and Russia have deals with Iran.
    Just filling in the blanks.

    China are cleverer than most of the world powers, they do it with trade, jaw, jaw not war war, their influence in the world grows and grows with no casualties for their military. Africa is a big case in point . Meanwhile the west continues to get into silly wars which just lead to destabilization.
    Indeed, but it’s the Cabal that takes the West into wars.
    China goes around the world buying up assets for their countries own needs.
    Their two priorities are food/meat and rare earths.
    They own the biggest pork producer in the US,have a big say in Australia and the South America’s.Food security is a big issue with the Chinese leaders. They haven’t got the land.
    So much of their land was polluted through the last 30years.
    The West is full of corruption,short term gain, no vision. An easy nut to crack.
    Russia could cripple Europe if they wished, cutting off energy.
    China could bring the world to a standstill if they wished, through manufacturing and if they did invade Tawain, through chips.
    Russia and China have the best hands.

    Remember Trump saying he’s done a deal with China to get them to buy more soy beans.
    The beans where for China’s pigs.

    Food is the route to bring folks out of poverty,which China has achieved.
    Folks work all day in some countries just to eat.




    cabal or not we are ruled by idiots.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774

    I have this week called out several people for their ability to berate both the US and Britain for pulling out their resources and leaving the people of Afghanistan to the mercies of a Taliban Government. Hey guys, heads up but we were never going to be there ad infinitum.

    However, these are, in many cases the same people who protested the presence of the Coalition forces in the first place and called for an immediate and total withdrawal.

    The word hypocrite springs to mind.

    It is not my intention to debate the occupation of Afghanistan. It's a complexity of tribal allegiencies and animosity where feuds that happened a Century ago are raised as if it was only last week and family and tribal loyalty are valued above all. Align that with an inhospitable terrain, a ferocious ability to fight and a deep unconcern for ones own life and maybe this is why no invader has ever successfully maintained an occupation. So the very presence of the Coalition was to say the least tenuous and always destined to be unsuccessful, no matter how well equipped and professional the occupying forces were.

    Regarding a Taliban Government I have my doubts as to the inclusive nature they have claimed it will be. If they do allow some form of inclusivity then this will almost certainly create divisions within not only their own ranks but amongst many of the Jihadist groups outside the country. Also let's not forget the Tribal leaders, the poppy cultivators and the Warlords who will all expect consideration.

    In fact take a look at some of the other known players in the equation Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Caucasus Emirate, Indian Mujahadeen, Ansar Al Islam. These are only a few of the better known groups but the represent a huge geographical covering including The Middle East, Russia, Africa both North and West and the Indian subcontinent.

    Certainly ISIS already see the Taliban as quisling because of their willingness to engage the West in dialogue and have stated that the Taliban, not pure in its doctrine, is a legitimate target.

    This may well force Al Qaeda to take one side or the other and many of the smaller groups could be forced to either back or defy the Taliban rule in Afghanistan dependent upon the ideology they embrace.

    The Oil States may well play a part, certainly covertly, but always with an eye to ensure the petro dollars continue to roll should there be an escalation of tension that spills into adjoining States.

    In fact it could well be that within a short space of time a Taliban Government in Afghanistan finds itself under attack from the most extreme of militant groups and whilst a Taliban versus ISIS conflict may be regarded as a win win situation for the West its not.

    Iran is nuclear, Pakistan is nuclear, Iraq is chemical. India, Israel and The US are all trigger happy. Boris, Vladimir and Kim are all crazy.

    It is well documented that armageddon begins with the beast in the east and shifting sands. Interesting times ahead I feel, terrifying, cruel, harsh and even barbaric but interesting.

    I have this week called out several people for their ability to berate both the US and Britain for pulling out their resources and leaving the people of Afghanistan to the mercies of a Taliban Government. Hey guys, heads up but we were never going to be there ad infinitum.

    However, these are, in many cases the same people who protested the presence of the Coalition forces in the first place and called for an immediate and total withdrawal.

    The word hypocrite springs to mind.

    It is not my intention to debate the occupation of Afghanistan. It's a complexity of tribal allegiencies and animosity where feuds that happened a Century ago are raised as if it was only last week and family and tribal loyalty are valued above all. Align that with an inhospitable terrain, a ferocious ability to fight and a deep unconcern for ones own life and maybe this is why no invader has ever successfully maintained an occupation. So the very presence of the Coalition was to say the least tenuous and always destined to be unsuccessful, no matter how well equipped and professional the occupying forces were.

    Regarding a Taliban Government I have my doubts as to the inclusive nature they have claimed it will be. If they do allow some form of inclusivity then this will almost certainly create divisions within not only their own ranks but amongst many of the Jihadist groups outside the country. Also let's not forget the Tribal leaders, the poppy cultivators and the Warlords who will all expect consideration.

    In fact take a look at some of the other known players in the equation Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, Caucasus Emirate, Indian Mujahadeen, Ansar Al Islam. These are only a few of the better known groups but the represent a huge geographical covering including The Middle East, Russia, Africa both North and West and the Indian subcontinent.

    Certainly ISIS already see the Taliban as quisling because of their willingness to engage the West in dialogue and have stated that the Taliban, not pure in its doctrine, is a legitimate target.

    This may well force Al Qaeda to take one side or the other and many of the smaller groups could be forced to either back or defy the Taliban rule in Afghanistan dependent upon the ideology they embrace.

    The Oil States may well play a part, certainly covertly, but always with an eye to ensure the petro dollars continue to roll should there be an escalation of tension that spills into adjoining States.

    In fact it could well be that within a short space of time a Taliban Government in Afghanistan finds itself under attack from the most extreme of militant groups and whilst a Taliban versus ISIS conflict may be regarded as a win win situation for the West its not.

    Iran is nuclear, Pakistan is nuclear, Iraq is chemical. India, Israel and The US are all trigger happy. Boris, Vladimir and Kim are all crazy.

    It is well documented that armageddon begins with the beast in the east and shifting sands. Interesting times ahead I feel, terrifying, cruel, harsh and even barbaric but interesting.











  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    I saw a thread on fb, and the comment came from someone with a legit status, that her son was to be deployed on the 15th Sept to Afghanistan.
    Her son is in the US airforce.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    chilling said:

    I saw a thread on fb, and the comment came from someone with a legit status, that her son was to be deployed on the 15th Sept to Afghanistan.
    Her son is in the US airforce.

    Must be true it it's on faceache
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    stokefc said:

    chilling said:

    I saw a thread on fb, and the comment came from someone with a legit status, that her son was to be deployed on the 15th Sept to Afghanistan.
    Her son is in the US airforce.

    Must be true it it's on faceache
    Yeah, it’s always been c rap.
    But since this ‘ pandemic’ started, there’s been some strange goings on, to the trained 👁 obv.
    Don’t forget that Mr Zucks and his wife/ partner also have a foundation.In an interview he said ‘ we’ don’t know what the long term outcome will be from the jabs.
    Questionnaires started appearing on the feed after the Pfizer was allowed emergency use.
    Actually it was more of a poll. Are you up for having a jab?
    Anything against the MSM was automatically deleted by fb,but then when millions of jabs had been administered, it just added a label to comments regarded as sensitive the the MSM agenda.
    As you can check any status,that provides proof of the persons knowledge.
    Plenty of real medical folks on there, with years of posts to prove that.
    They have got some very interesting things to say.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    stokefc said:

    chilling said:

    I saw a thread on fb, and the comment came from someone with a legit status, that her son was to be deployed on the 15th Sept to Afghanistan.
    Her son is in the US airforce.

    Must be true it it's on faceache
    She did actually start her post by sending her condolences to the US military that had been killed in the blast.
    I could possibly find it, might take while.
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