What would (should) you do.....?

MISTY4ME

I have been having a 'friendly' discussion with Tony @HAYSIE about this hand......

From memory it was in either the UKOPS Eliminator Freeroll or a Bounty Hunter, and I was in the Top 10 or so in chips (11,423) and already had a couple of Bounties.

What would you do? ......... or how should this be played? .....

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
18JAH	Small blind		200.00	200.00	5560.00
myjokras00	Big blind		400.00	600.00	6150.00
	Your hole cards	K J
WILL7B7	Raise		1200.00	1800.00	2672.50
albertg	Fold
Aglestone	Fold
MISTY4ME	Call		1200.00	3000.00	10222.50
18JAH	Fold
myjokras00	Raise		3200.00	6200.00	2950.00
WILL7B7	Call		2400.00	8600.00	272.50
MISTY4ME	?

HANSON

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

HAYSIE

HANSON said:

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

To be fair we were discussing three, which were the one below.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
HAYSIE	Small blind		75.00	75.00	685.00
Martinbros	Big blind		150.00	225.00	2415.00
	Your hole cards	10 A
MISTY4ME	Call		150.00	375.00	2525.00
HAYSIE	All-in		685.00	1060.00	0.00
Martinbros	Fold
MISTY4ME	Call		610.00	1670.00	1915.00
HAYSIE	Show	10 A
MISTY4ME	Show	7 6
Flop
		2 K K
Turn
		6
River
		5
MISTY4ME	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 6s	1670.00		3585.00

HAYSIE

HANSON said:

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

The one above which is not shown in full, and his K9, against your AK.
So the three are,
His 76 beating A10.
His K9 beating AK.
His KJ beating AA, and A6.

The playing of them included limping, calling raises, and re-raises, whilst ignoring the signs of being miles behind, and just calling bet after bet.

HAYSIE

HANSON said:

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
18JAH	Small blind		200.00	200.00	5560.00
myjokras00	Big blind		400.00	600.00	6150.00
	Your hole cards	K J
WILL7B7	Raise		1200.00	1800.00	2672.50
albertg	Fold
Aglestone	Fold
MISTY4ME	Call		1200.00	3000.00	10222.50
18JAH	Fold
myjokras00	Raise		3200.00	6200.00	2950.00
WILL7B7	Call		2400.00	8600.00	272.50
MISTY4ME	Call		2400.00	11000.00	7822.50
Flop
		K 8 3
myjokras00	All-in		2950.00	13950.00	0.00
WILL7B7	All-in		272.50	14222.50	0.00
MISTY4ME	All-in		7822.50	22045.00	0.00
MISTY4ME	Unmatched bet		4872.50	17172.50	4872.50
myjokras00	Show	A A
WILL7B7	Show	6 A
MISTY4ME	Show	K J
Turn
		Q
River
		K
MISTY4ME	Win	Three Kings	17172.50		22045.00

Tikay10

Who wants to guess how many posts this thread will generate?

With @HAYSIE involved I'm taking the overs, whatever the line is.

HAYSIE

HANSON said:

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

I havent got access to post the K9 against your AK hand.

HAYSIE

HANSON said:

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

That is pretty much what I said.

HAYSIE

Tikay10 said:

Who wants to guess how many posts this thread will generate?

With @HAYSIE involved I'm taking the overs, whatever the line is.

Harsh.

MISTY4ME

You've spoiled the FUN @HAYSIE

.....mind you, why doesn't that surprise me

I was going to post the next stage of the hand, and ask.......

What would (should) you do?

MISTY4ME

which would have been........

What would (should) you do?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
18JAH	Small blind		200.00	200.00	5560.00
myjokras00	Big blind		400.00	600.00	6150.00
	Your hole cards	K J
WILL7B7	Raise		1200.00	1800.00	2672.50
albertg	Fold
Aglestone	Fold
MISTY4ME	Call		1200.00	3000.00	10222.50
18JAH	Fold
myjokras00	Raise		3200.00	6200.00	2950.00
WILL7B7	Call		2400.00	8600.00	272.50
MISTY4ME	Call		2400.00	11000.00	7822.50
Flop
		K 8 3
myjokras00	All-in		2950.00	13950.00	0.00
WILL7B7	All-in		272.50	14222.50	0.00
MISTY4ME	?

MISTY4ME

Spoilsport @HAYSIE


Love him really ....... especially winding him up

HAYSIE

MISTY4ME said:

You've spoiled the FUN @HAYSIE

.....mind you, why doesn't that surprise me

I was going to post the next stage of the hand, and ask.......

What would (should) you do?

Post the K9 one.

HAYSIE

HAYSIE said:

HANSON said:

for what it is worth .. me i would have folded to the UTG raise being on the button , if im going to play K J on the button i want to be the one raising it first not calling , you called the 1200 as you had a good size stack but then faced a rearise to 3200 , easy fold after that .. myjokras00 has 3k left behind so his rearise is just over 50% of his stack and my opinion is K J is not the hand to take someone on with , which could end up costing you over 50% of your own stack

The one above which is not shown in full, and his K9, against your AK.
So the three are,
His 76 beating A10.
His K9 beating AK.
His KJ beating AA, and A6.

The playing of them included limping, calling raises, and re-raises, whilst ignoring the signs of being miles behind, and just calling bet after bet.

I think in the BEST case scenario, you are losing to 26 other hands

MISTY4ME

HAYSIE said:

MISTY4ME said:

You've spoiled the FUN @HAYSIE

.....mind you, why doesn't that surprise me

I was going to post the next stage of the hand, and ask.......

What would (should) you do?

Post the K9 one.

It's on the WTF.... ( ) LUCKY Thread

HAYSIE

MISTY4ME said:

Spoilsport @HAYSIE


Love him really ....... especially winding him up </p>

Like I take any notice.

HAYSIE

HAYSIE said:

MISTY4ME said:

You've spoiled the FUN @HAYSIE

.....mind you, why doesn't that surprise me

I was going to post the next stage of the hand, and ask.......

What would (should) you do?

Post the K9 one.

?

HAYSIE

MISTY4ME said:

HAYSIE said:

MISTY4ME said:

You've spoiled the FUN @HAYSIE

.....mind you, why doesn't that surprise me

I was going to post the next stage of the hand, and ask.......

What would (should) you do?

Post the K9 one.

It's on the WTF.... ( ) LUCKY Thread

I know.
Dont you think you should post it here to present a balanced view of our discussion, which concerned 3 hands?

MISTY4ME

I'll start the OP off again.....

Tony and I were having a 'friendly' discussion about three hands, of which, this one created the most discussion.

What would (should) you do?

etc. etc.

MISTY4ME

How much emphasis or consideration (if any) should be put on the fact that it's a Bounty Hunter/ UKOPS Eliminator Freeroll ?

Pre-FLOP
Post-FLOP

Graham @StayOrGo ,Matt @MattBates , Chris @rspca12 , Phil @PBKR, Danny @FeelGroggy , Danny @Itsover4u , and any of the other regular contributors

HAYSIE

MISTY4ME said:

How much emphasis or consideration (if any) should be put on the fact that it's a Bounty Hunter/ UKOPS Eliminator Freeroll ?

Pre-FLOP
Post-FLOP

Graham @StayOrGo ,Matt @MattBates , Chris @rspca12 , Phil @PBKR, Danny @FeelGroggy , Danny @Itsover4u , and any of the other regular contributors

No it didnt.
There were 3 hands involved.