this thread is not how good i am nor what whole cards i play so please keep to what the thread is about thank you
But in part, it is.
You believe that an RNG is capable of manipulation. Who by? And why?
By the operator? Why would Sky do that? risk a multi-£Billion company so that weaker hand B wins instead of your Hand A? Why would they care who wins? Sky just want the rake. Don't care who it is from.
By the weaker player? Hardly. No-one has ever managed to predict an RNG in order to profit. Even Sky's software.
Suppose you are a 70/30 favourite in a hand. If you play 10 of them, do you not think you will lose 3 of them? do you not think you will remember the 3 rather more than the 7? Or the 3 you win when the situation is reversed?
That is Confirmation Bias. In a nutshell.
If you don't believe me, fine. But in that case you should not be playing poker. For your sake. Not anyone else's.
skys rng is the cheapest thats why it does not randomise much hence why we always see paired boards flush boards i know my poker and yes im not putting anymore money on sky playing the 1k freeroll this week then gone
How do you know how much Sky's RNG cost compared to other sites? Have you got that information from somewhere verifiable?
How much should a RNG cost to be 'reliable'?
1 million dollars
@Jac35 Then I have great news..... I have an old one, barely used, for sale. It is yours for $500k!
this thread is not how good i am nor what whole cards i play so please keep to what the thread is about thank you
But in part, it is.
You believe that an RNG is capable of manipulation. Who by? And why?
By the operator? Why would Sky do that? risk a multi-£Billion company so that weaker hand B wins instead of your Hand A? Why would they care who wins? Sky just want the rake. Don't care who it is from.
By the weaker player? Hardly. No-one has ever managed to predict an RNG in order to profit. Even Sky's software.
Suppose you are a 70/30 favourite in a hand. If you play 10 of them, do you not think you will lose 3 of them? do you not think you will remember the 3 rather more than the 7? Or the 3 you win when the situation is reversed?
That is Confirmation Bias. In a nutshell.
If you don't believe me, fine. But in that case you should not be playing poker. For your sake. Not anyone else's.
skys rng is the cheapest thats why it does not randomise much hence why we always see paired boards flush boards i know my poker and yes im not putting anymore money on sky playing the 1k freeroll this week then gone
this thread is not how good i am nor what whole cards i play so please keep to what the thread is about thank you
But in part, it is.
You believe that an RNG is capable of manipulation. Who by? And why?
By the operator? Why would Sky do that? risk a multi-£Billion company so that weaker hand B wins instead of your Hand A? Why would they care who wins? Sky just want the rake. Don't care who it is from.
By the weaker player? Hardly. No-one has ever managed to predict an RNG in order to profit. Even Sky's software.
Suppose you are a 70/30 favourite in a hand. If you play 10 of them, do you not think you will lose 3 of them? do you not think you will remember the 3 rather more than the 7? Or the 3 you win when the situation is reversed?
That is Confirmation Bias. In a nutshell.
If you don't believe me, fine. But in that case you should not be playing poker. For your sake. Not anyone else's.
skys rng is the cheapest thats why it does not randomise much hence why we always see paired boards flush boards i know my poker and yes im not putting anymore money on sky playing the 1k freeroll this week then gone
There is only 2 ways poker sites make money.... rake/fees and customer traffic. When u r a small site like this, a random deck is not going to cut the mustard to make it worth their while financially.
If you have 600 on site, which is the case during the day, there is going to be around 20 good players, the other stumble in from the casino from time to time. If it was random, these 20 players would clean up, leaving the others demoralised, skint or just to lose interest. This would result in the the already poor amount of site traffic being smaller, leaving the site unviable.
Also to have very unlikely hands winning, particulary changing the lead in a hand on every street, guarantees more hands hitting maximum rake. Yet the sites and site fan loonies will say 'there is no advantage to a site not having a random deck, as they are paid by rake and fees'. I mean ive just shown you that indeed there is.. so even if they didnt do this. ...the statement they use is exposed as a total lie, yet the first thing they say in backing the sites deck!
The 2nd thing they will say is 'it wouldnt be worth their while to not have a random deck, as if found out they would be struck off'.... no-one is looking, the Gambling Commission will happily tell you they have no poker specialist and give their certificates out purely on the findings of the external auditor... who are paid hundreds of thousands by the sites to conduct their audits... a clear conflict of financial interest.
So their 2 main arguments, can be blown out the water right away.... if you want to believe sites that blatantly lie as their main explanation, then thats up to you to decide!
oh and the third one they use is 'you see more bad beats as you see more hands online'.... another corker that has been used for 20yrs by sites!
I mean this is ridiculous, the odds dont change cos u see more hands... a 2% chance oddwise shud win 2 out of 100 times... if u see more hands faster, it just means you get to that 100 times faster than you would live.... but statistically, long run u shud still only see 2 win... every given day, every given hour online i will see several of these, meaning id have to see that one specific situation 500 times in like an hour!
Another plain untruth in explaining away their deck performance.
i still manage to be £22.000 up on online poker, despite the way it works so im happy with my hobby 'mate'..... Just wish it was a normal poker game... eg not one where you have to fold in situations, whereas it would be correct to raise with a real deck, purely as you know 100% what the next card will be..... What is paranoid about the fact sites actually lie in the main defence of the decks??? Cleary there would be an advantage to the profits to have decks supplying enhanced hands and those that protect the poorer player..... even if they didnt do it! So their claims there would be no advantage, is just a complete lie.
i mean you guys are choosing to disregard maths, which is concrete.... to instead believing a business whose sole objective is to maximise profits... that use statements that can be plainly seen to be untrue ..... It is a very odd choice.
i mean you guys are choosing to disregard maths, which is concrete.... to instead believing a business whose sole objective is to maximise profits... that use statements that can be plainly seen to be untrue ..... It is a very odd choice.
I play dyms and the strategy I use is based solely on maths. You are the one disregarding maths and claiming you have won 22k using psychic powers that tell you "100% what the next card is going to be". You are making yourself look like a paranoid crackpot with these claims. If what you say is true it would be pretty easy for you to prove, just record your screen and tell us what the next card is going to be before it's dealt everytime. I'll send you my whole bankroll if you do this and prove me wrong.
i still manage to be £22.000 up on online poker, despite the way it works so im happy with my hobby 'mate'..... Just wish it was a normal poker game... eg not one where you have to fold in situations, whereas it would be correct to raise with a real deck, purely as you know 100% what the next card will be..... What is paranoid about the fact sites actually lie in the main defence of the decks??? Cleary there would be an advantage to the profits to have decks supplying enhanced hands and those that protect the poorer player..... even if they didnt do it! So their claims there would be no advantage, is just a complete lie.
i mean you guys are choosing to disregard maths, which is concrete.... to instead believing a business whose sole objective is to maximise profits... that use statements that can be plainly seen to be untrue ..... It is a very odd choice.
Would you like to bet on this with me ? Each put up £5k to have an independent auditor assess a decent sample size of hand history data from this site and discern the randomness or not?
i still manage to be £22.00 up on online poker, despite the way it works so im happy with my hobby 'mate'..... Just wish it was a normal poker game... eg not one where you have to fold in situations, whereas it would be correct to raise with a real deck, purely as you know 100% what the next card will be..... What is paranoid about the fact sites actually lie in the main defence of the decks??? Cleary there would be an advantage to the profits to have decks supplying enhanced hands and those that protect the poorer player..... even if they didnt do it! So their claims there would be no advantage, is just a complete lie.
instead of doctoring my quotes and just saying 'ridiculous' can anyone offer an explanation why the first thing sites say in answer to their decks are untrue statements as above?
anyway my post was for alyssammy, as we know there is only a bunch of non poker playing tea club fanatics that ever offer anything on this forum!
Open you eyes, the sites use untrue statements to back their decks, the gambling commission has no involvement yet use their logo to give players piece of mind, there is a so called audit (which is the be all and end all of online poker as a whole) which has massive financial conflicts of interest. There is nothing that backs it as being anything other than a business maximising profits.
Even when you ask what the audit actually looks at (i suspect it is just looking at how often cards come out and not how they are affecting the hand), no-one will give you an answer... why is that?? Sites show a bought certificate but wont give you any info on it when asked.. and when you ask the auditing company direct, they refuse as well! I mean that sounds all kosha doesnt it???
If it was all above board, why the secrecy, the lies and refusal to release information? Why on earth would you back someone acting this way? Didnt do Boris any good did it....
anyway my post was for alyssammy, as we know there is only a bunch of non poker playing tea club fanatics that ever offer anything on this forum!
Open you eyes, the sites use untrue statements to back their decks, the gambling commission has no involvement yet use their logo to give players piece of mind, there is a so called audit (which is the be all and end all of online poker as a whole) which has massive financial conflicts of interest. There is nothing that backs it as being anything other than a business maximising profits.
Even when you ask what the audit actually looks at (i suspect it is just looking at how often cards come out and not how they are affecting the hand), no-one will give you an answer... why is that?? Sites show a bought certificate but wont give you any info on it when asked.. and when you ask the auditing company direct, they refuse as well! I mean that sounds all kosha doesnt it???
If it was all above board, why the secrecy, the lies and refusal to release information? Why on earth would you back someone acting this way? Didnt do Boris any good did it....
anyway my post was for alyssammy, as we know there is only a bunch of non poker playing tea club fanatics that ever offer anything on this forum!
Open you eyes, the sites use untrue statements to back their decks, the gambling commission has no involvement yet use their logo to give players piece of mind, there is a so called audit (which is the be all and end all of online poker as a whole) which has massive financial conflicts of interest. There is nothing that backs it as being anything other than a business maximising profits.
Even when you ask what the audit actually looks at (i suspect it is just looking at how often cards come out and not how they are affecting the hand), no-one will give you an answer... why is that?? Sites show a bought certificate but wont give you any info on it when asked.. and when you ask the auditing company direct, they refuse as well! I mean that sounds all kosha doesnt it???
If it was all above board, why the secrecy, the lies and refusal to release information? Why on earth would you back someone acting this way? Didnt do Boris any good did it....
anyway my post was for alyssammy, as we know there is only a bunch of non poker playing tea club fanatics that ever offer anything on this forum!
Open you eyes, the sites use untrue statements to back their decks, the gambling commission has no involvement yet use their logo to give players piece of mind, there is a so called audit (which is the be all and end all of online poker as a whole) which has massive financial conflicts of interest. There is nothing that backs it as being anything other than a business maximising profits.
Even when you ask what the audit actually looks at (i suspect it is just looking at how often cards come out and not how they are affecting the hand), no-one will give you an answer... why is that?? Sites show a bought certificate but wont give you any info on it when asked.. and when you ask the auditing company direct, they refuse as well! I mean that sounds all kosha doesnt it???
If it was all above board, why the secrecy, the lies and refusal to release information? Why on earth would you back someone acting this way? Didnt do Boris any good did it....
Ahh your tea club is more important isnt it......
Well if I thought that a gaming or poker site was dishonest and still wagered or played there would that not make me a moron?
So the question is this why do you play on a site you claim to know for sure is operating in a fraudulent manner?
oh and the third one they use is 'you see more bad beats as you see more hands online'.... another corker that has been used for 20yrs by sites!
I mean this is ridiculous, the odds dont change cos u see more hands... a 2% chance oddwise shud win 2 out of 100 times... if u see more hands faster, it just means you get to that 100 times faster than you would live.... but statistically, long run u shud still only see 2 win... every given day, every given hour online i will see several of these, meaning id have to see that one specific situation 500 times in like an hour!
Another plain untruth in explaining away their deck performance.
I don't understand your logic here. You are trying to disprove the statement 'you see more bad beats as you see more hands online' yet you then go on to explain why the statement is correct i.e. you see more hands faster.
To quote Mr Spock, who I assume was an excellent poker player, that's illogical Captain.
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@alyssammy
Welcome back.
If you have 600 on site, which is the case during the day, there is going to be around 20 good players, the other stumble in from the casino from time to time. If it was random, these 20 players would clean up, leaving the others demoralised, skint or just to lose interest. This would result in the the already poor amount of site traffic being smaller, leaving the site unviable.
Also to have very unlikely hands winning, particulary changing the lead in a hand on every street, guarantees more hands hitting maximum rake. Yet the sites and site fan loonies will say 'there is no advantage to a site not having a random deck, as they are paid by rake and fees'. I mean ive just shown you that indeed there is.. so even if they didnt do this. ...the statement they use is exposed as a total lie, yet the first thing they say in backing the sites deck!
The 2nd thing they will say is 'it wouldnt be worth their while to not have a random deck, as if found out they would be struck off'.... no-one is looking, the Gambling Commission will happily tell you they have no poker specialist and give their certificates out purely on the findings of the external auditor... who are paid hundreds of thousands by the sites to conduct their audits... a clear conflict of financial interest.
So their 2 main arguments, can be blown out the water right away.... if you want to believe sites that blatantly lie as their main explanation, then thats up to you to decide!
I mean this is ridiculous, the odds dont change cos u see more hands... a 2% chance oddwise shud win 2 out of 100 times... if u see more hands faster, it just means you get to that 100 times faster than you would live.... but statistically, long run u shud still only see 2 win... every given day, every given hour online i will see several of these, meaning id have to see that one specific situation 500 times in like an hour!
Another plain untruth in explaining away their deck performance.
Just wish it was a normal poker game... eg not one where you have to fold in situations, whereas it would be correct to raise with a real deck, purely as you know 100% what the next card will be.....
What is paranoid about the fact sites actually lie in the main defence of the decks??? Cleary there would be an advantage to the profits to have decks supplying enhanced hands and those that protect the poorer player..... even if they didnt do it! So their claims there would be no advantage, is just a complete lie.
It is a very odd choice.
I am willing to take bets from anyone else too
Open you eyes, the sites use untrue statements to back their decks, the gambling commission has no involvement yet use their logo to give players piece of mind, there is a so called audit (which is the be all and end all of online poker as a whole) which has massive financial conflicts of interest. There is nothing that backs it as being anything other than a business maximising profits.
Even when you ask what the audit actually looks at (i suspect it is just looking at how often cards come out and not how they are affecting the hand), no-one will give you an answer... why is that?? Sites show a bought certificate but wont give you any info on it when asked.. and when you ask the auditing company direct, they refuse as well! I mean that sounds all kosha doesnt it???
If it was all above board, why the secrecy, the lies and refusal to release information? Why on earth would you back someone acting this way? Didnt do Boris any good did it....
Ahh your tea club is more important isnt it......
It's 'peace' by the way.
So the question is this why do you play on a site you claim to know for sure is operating in a fraudulent manner?
I await your answer with patient indifference.
To quote Mr Spock, who I assume was an excellent poker player, that's illogical Captain.