Not sure about your comment that had referendum been held today the result would have been very different.
With Hindsight quite possibly, but without that hindsight we would be unaware of the pitfalls of leaving and so the result may well be replicated.
Would I change my vote if I knew then what I know now ?
No.
Whenever I see Ursula and her cronies, I am reminded of Senator Palpatine from the Star Wars franchise, uniting the Republic to further personal ambition, growing it's numbers and then using usurped power to create the Empire and ultimate control over all.
Not sure about your comment that had referendum been held today the result would have been very different.
With Hindsight quite possibly, but without that hindsight we would be unaware of the pitfalls of leaving and so the result may well be replicated.
Would I change my vote if I knew then what I know now ?
No.
Whenever I see Ursula and her cronies, I am reminded of Senator Palpatine from the Star Wars franchise, uniting the Republic to further personal ambition, growing it's numbers and then using usurped power to create the Empire and ultimate control over all.
I dont think there is any doubt about the trend of older leave voters dying off, and younger remain voters qualifying to vote. The recent polls have shown an increasing majority in favour of EU membership. The cunning future plans of the EU dont wash with me. Firstly, I am too old to worry, and secondly, people like Farage have used the EUs so called future plans to worry people for years, yet none of them have seemed to come to fruition. During the referendum he used a now famous "Breaking Point" poster that threatened this country with being overrun by Turkish people, as soon as they became members. Yet Turkey applied to become members in 1987, and still arent members today. Some people will think that we have since become overrun, despite allegedly having control of our borders since we left, just by people from everywhere else other than Turkey. Many people rabbit on about an EU army, including people on this thread. Yet this was first mooted in 1950, and still doesnt exist. It seems that people that cant think of any real criticisms, will attempt to criticise for what they might do at some point in the future, if it is raining, or the wind is blowing in the wrong direction, or some absolute lunatic gets elected in Belgium. I therefore treat the ravings of future EU plans as the absolute b0ll0cks, that they usually are.
Leaving the EU has certainly affected our economy, which affects all of us, whether we like it or not.
Not sure about your comment that had referendum been held today the result would have been very different.
With Hindsight quite possibly, but without that hindsight we would be unaware of the pitfalls of leaving and so the result may well be replicated.
Would I change my vote if I knew then what I know now ?
No.
Whenever I see Ursula and her cronies, I am reminded of Senator Palpatine from the Star Wars franchise, uniting the Republic to further personal ambition, growing it's numbers and then using usurped power to create the Empire and ultimate control over all.
15 Reasons Brexit Is Breaking Britain
Brexit has brought about significant changes in the United Kingdom, impacting various aspects of daily life for its residents. It certainly changed things, but not always for the better.
#1. Economic Uncertainty
Since Brexit, Britain has faced significant economic uncertainty, with fluctuations in currency value and trade disruptions affecting businesses and consumers alike.
#2. Trade Barriers
Brexit has led to trade barriers and increased bureaucracy, making it more challenging for British businesses to export to the EU and other global markets.
#3. Supply Chain Disruptions
Supply chains have been disrupted, leading to delays and shortages of goods ranging from food to medical supplies, impacting businesses and consumers.
#4. Job Losses
Many businesses, particularly in industries heavily reliant on EU trade, have faced closures or downsizing, resulting in job losses across the country.
#5. Investment Decline
Foreign investment in the UK has declined since Brexit, with investors concerned about the economic outlook and future trade relationships.
#6. Financial Services Impact
London’s status as a financial hub has been challenged, with some financial services firms relocating operations to EU countries to maintain access to the single market.
#7. Immigration Challenges
The end of freedom of movement has made it more difficult for British businesses to recruit skilled workers from EU countries, leading to labor shortages in key sectors such as healthcare and hospitality.
#8. Higher Costs of Living
Brexit-related inflation and currency depreciation have contributed to higher costs of living for British consumers, affecting household budgets.
#9. Regulatory Divergence
Regulatory misalignment between the UK and the EU has created barriers to trade and increased compliance costs for businesses operating in both markets.
#10. Northern Ireland Protocol Issues
The implementation of the Northern Ireland Protocol has led to trade disruptions and tensions, complicating relations between Northern Ireland, Great Britain, and the Republic of Ireland.
#11. Scotland’s Independence Calls
Brexit has reignited calls for Scottish independence, with many Scots unhappy about being taken out of the EU against their will, further dividing the UK.
#12. Loss of Influence
The UK’s influence on the global stage has diminished post-Brexit, with reduced access to EU decision-making processes and weakened diplomatic ties.
#13. Environmental Concerns
Brexit has raised concerns about environmental standards and protections, with the UK no longer bound by EU regulations and facing uncertainty about future environmental policies.
#14. Research and Innovation Impact
Brexit has disrupted research collaborations and access to EU funding programs, threatening the UK’s position as a leader in science and innovation.
#15. Societal Divisions
Brexit has exacerbated societal divisions within the UK, with deepening political polarization and tensions between Leave and Remain supporters, undermining social cohesion.
And here we see the Ursula Spider as she uses her almost hypnotic stare to draw another victim into her tangled web of deceit.
I think Keir Starmer is quite a clever man. I am not sure what you base your opinions of Ursula von der Leyen on. We were influential members for almost 50 years. Ursula von der Leyen took office in December 2019, this was after we decided to leave, and a matter of months before we actually left.
I think that the one thing that this thread has shown, is that people find it difficult to come up with any Brexit benefits. Yet the disadvantages are clear for everyone to see, there are 15 of them in the article above.
And here we see the Ursula Spider as she uses her almost hypnotic stare to draw another victim into her tangled web of deceit.
I think Keir Starmer is quite a clever man. I am not sure what you base your opinions of Ursula von der Leyen on. We were influential members for almost 50 years. Ursula von der Leyen took office in December 2019, this was after we decided to leave, and a matter of months before we actually left.
I think that the one thing that this thread has shown, is that people find it difficult to come up with any Brexit benefits. Yet the disadvantages are clear for everyone to see, there are 15 of them in the article above.
And here we see the Ursula Spider as she uses her almost hypnotic stare to draw another victim into her tangled web of deceit.
I think Keir Starmer is quite a clever man. I am not sure what you base your opinions of Ursula von der Leyen on. We were influential members for almost 50 years. Ursula von der Leyen took office in December 2019, this was after we decided to leave, and a matter of months before we actually left.
I think that the one thing that this thread has shown, is that people find it difficult to come up with any Brexit benefits. Yet the disadvantages are clear for everyone to see, there are 15 of them in the article above.
Just to get this in perspective. We elected Boris, with an 80 seat majority, in December 2019. This was the same month that she took office. I am very clear on which was by far the biggest blunder, what about you? We officially left the EU, in January 2020.
I think that the EU were fair in the negotiations around us leaving. What if they had refused to allow NI to remain in the SM/CU? The frontier between us and the EU would then have been on the island of Ireland. This would have meant that an Irish Sea border would have been useless. What could we have done then?
I dont suppose that they have to take any new photos, as they have plenty of old ones that they can use. We usually blame the French, or the EU, or anyone but us. Does this come under controlling our borders?
I suppose that at least some of them thought it might be quicker than flying, when you consider the journey to the airport, the waiting time, as well as the added expense, and inconvenience of having to hire a left hand drive car.
It is interesting that you chose this one to respond to.
Ok, but you would have thought that this could have been resolved. It is over 4 years since we left. We seem better at blaming others, than actually solving problems.
I don't like Ursula because she has an agenda geared toward getting nations to join the EU. This is a bloc in which several member countries have an open dislike and mistrust of each other, a bloc where the poor are propped up by the wealthy and a bloc where genocide was taking place as late as the 90's.
Why on God's earth would you wish to increase the numbers unless it's for personal gain. It's all jobs for the boys and the main policies are decided by faceless unelected sycophants who remain largely unaffected by their decisions.
Also have you actually heard her talking about educating the young generation about the glory of the EU. Brainwashing more like. She is not open to any other way of life and regards anybody who opposes the EU as almost agents of destruction.
However as a proud Englishman I offer this caveat.
The Welsh, Scottish and Irish have a historical dislike / hatred of us. Most of Europe openly doesn't like us and so to live, work and socialise amongst all this dislike must mean we are the most tolerant Country on earth. Ursula definately isn't in that bracket.
"However as a proud Englishman I offer this caveat.
The Welsh, Scottish and Irish have a historical dislike / hatred of us. Most of Europe openly doesn't like us and so to live, work and socialise amongst all this dislike must mean we are the most tolerant Country on earth".
Probably down to our own arrogance and lack of our perceived understanding of the acts and intentions of others?
I don't like Ursula because she has an agenda geared toward getting nations to join the EU.
Of course it is. Isnt that the whole point? You are surely not suggesting that she should be encouraging members to leave? Or discouraging new members?
This is a bloc in which several member countries have an open dislike and mistrust of each other,
Nothing to do with the EU. Although the fact that they are members of the same bloc, and have to abide by a single set of rules, regulations, and laws, may lessen this.
a bloc where the poor are propped up by the wealthy
Propped up?
and a bloc where genocide was taking place as late as the 90's.
Croatia became members in 2013.
Why on God's earth would you wish to increase the numbers unless it's for personal gain.
All the members benefit from increased trade. What personal gain do you think she gets? Is it just her that gets a personal gain, or are there others?
It's all jobs for the boys
What does this mean?
and the main policies are decided by faceless unelected sycophants who remain largely unaffected by their decisions.
Are you saying that during the time that we were members we had no say, and never voted?
Also have you actually heard her talking about educating the young generation about the glory of the EU. Brainwashing more like. She is not open to any other way of life and regards anybody who opposes the EU as almost agents of destruction.
I suppose that is one interpretation.
However as a proud Englishman I offer this caveat.
The Welsh, Scottish and Irish have a historical dislike / hatred of us.
I would have described it as more of a rivalry, than hatred. I know that if you went into a pub in Cardiff, or Glasgow, and an England football match was on the box, that the majority of locals would be supporting the opposing side. Whoever that may be. Although I dont think that this runs as far as hatred.
Most of Europe openly doesn't like us
If is the case, then it may be a good idea to examine the reasons why this may be the case.
and so to live, work and socialise amongst all this dislike must mean we are the most tolerant Country on earth.
I would disagree. Leaving the EU, and ending freedom of movement has just meant swapping EU citizens for many more immigrants from elsewhere in the world. This has not appeased the racists among us in any way. In fact is has exacerbated the situation for those concerned with skin colour. I am also unsure that there is any proof that they like us more than Europeans.
Ursula definately isn't in that bracket.
I am not sure that you could consider yourself as unbiased.
I am more unbiased than her. I believe that people are free to choose their own future, their own destiny and their own way of life.
She believes that she should determine all that on our behalf and protest is wrong, dissent is intolerable and anti EU sentiment tantamount to treason.
Look at some of her anti British rants, all she needs is a balcony and a stupid moustache.
The EU is just another form of dictatorship, admittedly one that operates subtly outside the usual parameters of such entities but nonetheless despite the apparent openness that is what it is.
The Soviet Union done differently and that's about it. It exists so the select few can harness more wealth and therefore more influence.
In the words of Ozzy Osbourne "The Media sells it and you play the role".
I am more unbiased than her. I believe that people are free to choose their own future, their own destiny and their own way of life.
In your opinion. I dont believe my personal freedoms have improved since we left. Or that people that live in EU member countries have become less free, since joining the EU.
She believes that she should determine all that on our behalf and protest is wrong, dissent is intolerable and anti EU sentiment tantamount to treason.
I dont see any point in arguing over what you think her beliefs are.
Look at some of her anti British rants, all she needs is a balcony and a stupid moustache.
Could you maybe just quote one. If there are any, I am sure the number of them will be far fewer that the number of anti-EU rants from British politicians.
The EU is just another form of dictatorship, admittedly one that operates subtly outside the usual parameters of such entities but nonetheless despite the apparent openness that is what it is.
Really? Why do you think they bother with electing MEPs? Or vote on anything?
The Soviet Union done differently and that's about it. It exists so the select few can harness more wealth and therefore more influence.
The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.
In the words of Ozzy Osbourne "The Media sells it and you play the role".
I dont think I would rely on an Ozzy Osbourne quote to prove anything.
I am more unbiased than her. I believe that people are free to choose their own future, their own destiny and their own way of life.
In your opinion. I dont believe my personal freedoms have improved since we left. Or that people that live in EU member countries have become less free, since joining the EU.
You don't seem able to grasp the basic concepts of personal freedom because we don't have it in this country anymore. Try making a statement, any statement, that goes against popular thinking. You get criminalised for freedom of expression. Try protesting against something that is really contentious and watch as your group is but on a proscribed list. So I actually agree that your personal freedoms haven't improved. However that's the left thinking influence which is epitomised in the EU
She believes that she should determine all that on our behalf and protest is wrong, dissent is intolerable and anti EU sentiment tantamount to treason.
I dont see any point in arguing over what you think her beliefs are.
Well I think it's vital that you understand what the beliefs of any body in a position to wield great influence are. She can't even make up her mind if she's Belgian or German, but enough, let's look at some of this great EU Presidents work.
Look at some of her anti British rants, all she needs is a balcony and a stupid moustache.
Could you maybe just quote one. If there are any, I am sure the number of them will be far fewer that the number of anti-EU rants from British politicians.
The EU is just another form of dictatorship, admittedly one that operates subtly outside the usual parameters of such entities but nonetheless despite the apparent openness that is what it is.
Really? Why do you think they bother with electing MEPs? Or vote on anything?
About MEPs Each country decides on the form its election will take, but must guarantee equality of the sexes and a secret ballot. EU elections are by proportional representation. Voting age is set at 16 in Austria, Belgium, Germany and Malta, 17 in Greece, and 18 in the remaining Member States. Seats are allocated on the basis of population of each Member State. More than a third of MEPs are women. MEPs are grouped by political affinity, not nationality. MEPs divide their time between their constituencies, Strasbourg - where 12 plenary sittings a year are held - and Brussels, where they attend additional plenary sittings, as well as committee and political group meetings. The terms and conditions for Members are laid out in the Statute of 2009.
Ok so secret ballot, PR for Europe but not at home, open your eyes it's all a con.
The Soviet Union done differently and that's about it. It exists so the select few can harness more wealth and therefore more influence.
The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.
As will the European Union when the time is ripe.
In the words of Ozzy Osbourne "The Media sells it and you play the role".
I dont think I would rely on an Ozzy Osbourne quote to prove anything.
Shame really since the most prophetic words are often found in popular song.
I am more unbiased than her. I believe that people are free to choose their own future, their own destiny and their own way of life.
In your opinion. I dont believe my personal freedoms have improved since we left. Or that people that live in EU member countries have become less free, since joining the EU.
You don't seem able to grasp the basic concepts of personal freedom because we don't have it in this country anymore. Try making a statement, any statement, that goes against popular thinking. You get criminalised for freedom of expression. Try protesting against something that is really contentious and watch as your group is but on a proscribed list. So I actually agree that your personal freedoms haven't improved. However that's the left thinking influence which is epitomised in the EU
She believes that she should determine all that on our behalf and protest is wrong, dissent is intolerable and anti EU sentiment tantamount to treason.
I dont see any point in arguing over what you think her beliefs are.
Well I think it's vital that you understand what the beliefs of any body in a position to wield great influence are. She can't even make up her mind if she's Belgian or German, but enough, let's look at some of this great EU Presidents work.
Look at some of her anti British rants, all she needs is a balcony and a stupid moustache.
Could you maybe just quote one. If there are any, I am sure the number of them will be far fewer that the number of anti-EU rants from British politicians.
The EU is just another form of dictatorship, admittedly one that operates subtly outside the usual parameters of such entities but nonetheless despite the apparent openness that is what it is.
Really? Why do you think they bother with electing MEPs? Or vote on anything?
About MEPs Each country decides on the form its election will take, but must guarantee equality of the sexes and a secret ballot. EU elections are by proportional representation. Voting age is set at 16 in Austria, Belgium, Germany and Malta, 17 in Greece, and 18 in the remaining Member States. Seats are allocated on the basis of population of each Member State. More than a third of MEPs are women. MEPs are grouped by political affinity, not nationality. MEPs divide their time between their constituencies, Strasbourg - where 12 plenary sittings a year are held - and Brussels, where they attend additional plenary sittings, as well as committee and political group meetings. The terms and conditions for Members are laid out in the Statute of 2009.
Ok so secret ballot, PR for Europe but not at home, open your eyes it's all a con.
The Soviet Union done differently and that's about it. It exists so the select few can harness more wealth and therefore more influence.
The Soviet Union collapsed in 1991.
As will the European Union when the time is ripe.
In the words of Ozzy Osbourne "The Media sells it and you play the role".
I dont think I would rely on an Ozzy Osbourne quote to prove anything.
Shame really since the most prophetic words are often found in popular song.
Yes, and you would have plenty of time to play them in your car, if you were stuck in 15 hour queues for the next year.
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With Hindsight quite possibly, but without that hindsight we would be unaware of the pitfalls of leaving and so the result may well be replicated.
Would I change my vote if I knew then what I know now ?
No.
Whenever I see Ursula and her cronies, I am reminded of Senator Palpatine from the Star Wars franchise, uniting the Republic to further personal ambition, growing it's numbers and then using usurped power to create the Empire and ultimate control over all.
The recent polls have shown an increasing majority in favour of EU membership.
The cunning future plans of the EU dont wash with me.
Firstly, I am too old to worry, and secondly, people like Farage have used the EUs so called future plans to worry people for years, yet none of them have seemed to come to fruition.
During the referendum he used a now famous "Breaking Point" poster that threatened this country with being overrun by Turkish people, as soon as they became members.
Yet Turkey applied to become members in 1987, and still arent members today.
Some people will think that we have since become overrun, despite allegedly having control of our borders since we left, just by people from everywhere else other than Turkey.
Many people rabbit on about an EU army, including people on this thread.
Yet this was first mooted in 1950, and still doesnt exist.
It seems that people that cant think of any real criticisms, will attempt to criticise for what they might do at some point in the future, if it is raining, or the wind is blowing in the wrong direction, or some absolute lunatic gets elected in Belgium.
I therefore treat the ravings of future EU plans as the absolute b0ll0cks, that they usually are.
Leaving the EU has certainly affected our economy, which affects all of us, whether we like it or not.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/portsmouths-brexit-border-post-could-170600847.html
Brexit has brought about significant changes in the United Kingdom, impacting various aspects of daily life for its residents. It certainly changed things, but not always for the better.
#1. Economic Uncertainty
Since Brexit, Britain has faced significant economic uncertainty, with fluctuations in currency value and trade disruptions affecting businesses and consumers alike.
#2. Trade Barriers
Brexit has led to trade barriers and increased bureaucracy, making it more challenging for British businesses to export to the EU and other global markets.
#3. Supply Chain Disruptions
Supply chains have been disrupted, leading to delays and shortages of goods ranging from food to medical supplies, impacting businesses and consumers.
#4. Job Losses
Many businesses, particularly in industries heavily reliant on EU trade, have faced closures or downsizing, resulting in job losses across the country.
#5. Investment Decline
Foreign investment in the UK has declined since Brexit, with investors concerned about the economic outlook and future trade relationships.
#6. Financial Services Impact
London’s status as a financial hub has been challenged, with some financial services firms relocating operations to EU countries to maintain access to the single market.
#7. Immigration Challenges
The end of freedom of movement has made it more difficult for British businesses to recruit skilled workers from EU countries, leading to labor shortages in key sectors such as healthcare and hospitality.
#8. Higher Costs of Living
Brexit-related inflation and currency depreciation have contributed to higher costs of living for British consumers, affecting household budgets.
#9. Regulatory Divergence
Regulatory misalignment between the UK and the EU has created barriers to trade and increased compliance costs for businesses operating in both markets.
#10. Northern Ireland Protocol Issues
The implementation of the Northern Ireland Protocol has led to trade disruptions and tensions, complicating relations between Northern Ireland, Great Britain, and the Republic of Ireland.
#11. Scotland’s Independence Calls
Brexit has reignited calls for Scottish independence, with many Scots unhappy about being taken out of the EU against their will, further dividing the UK.
#12. Loss of Influence
The UK’s influence on the global stage has diminished post-Brexit, with reduced access to EU decision-making processes and weakened diplomatic ties.
#13. Environmental Concerns
Brexit has raised concerns about environmental standards and protections, with the UK no longer bound by EU regulations and facing uncertainty about future environmental policies.
#14. Research and Innovation Impact
Brexit has disrupted research collaborations and access to EU funding programs, threatening the UK’s position as a leader in science and innovation.
#15. Societal Divisions
Brexit has exacerbated societal divisions within the UK, with deepening political polarization and tensions between Leave and Remain supporters, undermining social cohesion.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/15-reasons-brexit-is-breaking-britain/ss-BB1klgZ3?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=8e6a1c445af146a6afb3971f823d1729&ei=18#image=1
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/sir-keir-starmer-demands-closer-relationship-with-brussels-as-labour-leader-outlines-plans-to-fix-the-country/ar-BB1kl1vn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=246ddc43aa7146d0b2553490d970e863&ei=105
I am not sure what you base your opinions of Ursula von der Leyen on.
We were influential members for almost 50 years.
Ursula von der Leyen took office in December 2019, this was after we decided to leave, and a matter of months before we actually left.
I think that the one thing that this thread has shown, is that people find it difficult to come up with any Brexit benefits.
Yet the disadvantages are clear for everyone to see, there are 15 of them in the article above.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/sir-keir-starmer-demands-closer-relationship-with-brussels-as-labour-leader-outlines-plans-to-fix-the-country/ar-BB1kl1vn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=246ddc43aa7146d0b2553490d970e863&ei=105
And here we see the Ursula Spider as she uses her almost hypnotic stare to draw another victim into her tangled web of deceit.
I think Keir Starmer is quite a clever man.
I am not sure what you base your opinions of Ursula von der Leyen on.
We were influential members for almost 50 years.
Ursula von der Leyen took office in December 2019, this was after we decided to leave, and a matter of months before we actually left.
I think that the one thing that this thread has shown, is that people find it difficult to come up with any Brexit benefits.
Yet the disadvantages are clear for everyone to see, there are 15 of them in the article above.
Just to get this in perspective.
We elected Boris, with an 80 seat majority, in December 2019.
This was the same month that she took office.
I am very clear on which was by far the biggest blunder, what about you?
We officially left the EU, in January 2020.
I think that the EU were fair in the negotiations around us leaving.
What if they had refused to allow NI to remain in the SM/CU?
The frontier between us and the EU would then have been on the island of Ireland.
This would have meant that an Irish Sea border would have been useless.
What could we have done then?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/holidaymakers-face-year-of-15-hour-queues-at-dover-amid-brexit-border-app-delay/ar-BB1kmGMz?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=1c276a1860654c56a064b230bd34b892&ei=97
We usually blame the French, or the EU, or anyone but us.
Does this come under controlling our borders?
I suppose that at least some of them thought it might be quicker than flying, when you consider the journey to the airport, the waiting time, as well as the added expense, and inconvenience of having to hire a left hand drive car.
It is interesting that you chose this one to respond to.
It is over 4 years since we left.
We seem better at blaming others, than actually solving problems.
Why on God's earth would you wish to increase the numbers unless it's for personal gain. It's all jobs for the boys and the main policies are decided by faceless unelected sycophants who remain largely unaffected by their decisions.
Also have you actually heard her talking about educating the young generation about the glory of the EU. Brainwashing more like. She is not open to any other way of life and regards anybody who opposes the EU as almost agents of destruction.
However as a proud Englishman I offer this caveat.
The Welsh, Scottish and Irish have a historical dislike / hatred of us. Most of Europe openly doesn't like us and so to live, work and socialise amongst all this dislike must mean we are the most tolerant Country on earth. Ursula definately isn't in that bracket.
The Welsh, Scottish and Irish have a historical dislike / hatred of us. Most of Europe openly doesn't like us and so to live, work and socialise amongst all this dislike must mean we are the most tolerant Country on earth".
Probably down to our own arrogance and lack of our perceived understanding of the acts and intentions of others?
She believes that she should determine all that on our behalf and protest is wrong, dissent is intolerable and anti EU sentiment tantamount to treason.
Look at some of her anti British rants, all she needs is a balcony and a stupid moustache.
The EU is just another form of dictatorship, admittedly one that operates subtly outside the usual parameters of such entities but nonetheless despite the apparent openness that is what it is.
The Soviet Union done differently and that's about it. It exists so the select few can harness more wealth and therefore more influence.
In the words of Ozzy Osbourne "The Media sells it and you play the role".