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Police force is 'running out of vegan meals'

HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,548
    Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    You tell him ! " He's worse than Toot Toot "
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

    Perhaps they dont usually stock many vegan meals, and they have had a bit of a run on this mob of late.
    I dont think they cook them Phil.
    I cant actually visualise the desk sergeant in a pinny, knocking up cordon bleu meals for the villains.
    They are more likely to be microwaveable stuff out of the freezer.

    If more officers participated in the menopause experiment, maybe they could cook the meals in the hot flush vests.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

    Perhaps they dont usually stock many vegan meals, and they have had a bit of a run on this mob of late.
    I dont think they cook them Phil.
    I cant actually visualise the desk sergeant in a pinny, knocking up cordon bleu meals for the villains.
    They are more likely to be microwaveable stuff out of the freezer.

    If more officers participated in the menopause experiment, maybe they could cook the meals in the hot flush vests.
    At any 1 time, there are about 80,000 people in prison, and a further 15,000 on Remand. So an extra 17 is largely an irrelevance.

    They don't cook them-I expect they use contract caterers. A single school can (and regularly does) accommodate extra meals without the world ending.

    The Police need to stock sufficient numbers of Vegan meals. And do. And always have. However much the Daily Mail tries to pretend otherwise.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

    Perhaps they dont usually stock many vegan meals, and they have had a bit of a run on this mob of late.
    I dont think they cook them Phil.
    I cant actually visualise the desk sergeant in a pinny, knocking up cordon bleu meals for the villains.
    They are more likely to be microwaveable stuff out of the freezer.

    If more officers participated in the menopause experiment, maybe they could cook the meals in the hot flush vests.
    At any 1 time, there are about 80,000 people in prison, and a further 15,000 on Remand. So an extra 17 is largely an irrelevance.

    They don't cook them-I expect they use contract caterers. A single school can (and regularly does) accommodate extra meals without the world ending.

    The Police need to stock sufficient numbers of Vegan meals. And do. And always have. However much the Daily Mail tries to pretend otherwise.
    Dave B Ex pat, Uxbridge, Canada, 8 minutes ago

    If you can't do ths time don't do the crime...

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    Dave B Ex pat, Uxbridge, Canada, 9 minutes ago

    Why do they get special meals? There is no medical reason for it.... they should get standard simple food. If they don't like it they can refuse to eat or eat around tge bits ggey don't like...

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    Formo, Wirral, United Kingdom, 30 minutes ago

    Give them a carrot.

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    St James..., of St James, United Kingdom, 42 minutes ago

    Porridge, is that vegan enough?

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    Major Doubt, Manchester, United Kingdom, 53 minutes ago

    Let them eat meat....or nowt!!
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

    Perhaps they dont usually stock many vegan meals, and they have had a bit of a run on this mob of late.
    I dont think they cook them Phil.
    I cant actually visualise the desk sergeant in a pinny, knocking up cordon bleu meals for the villains.
    They are more likely to be microwaveable stuff out of the freezer.

    If more officers participated in the menopause experiment, maybe they could cook the meals in the hot flush vests.
    At any 1 time, there are about 80,000 people in prison, and a further 15,000 on Remand. So an extra 17 is largely an irrelevance.

    They don't cook them-I expect they use contract caterers. A single school can (and regularly does) accommodate extra meals without the world ending.

    The Police need to stock sufficient numbers of Vegan meals. And do. And always have. However much the Daily Mail tries to pretend otherwise.
    I think that the 17 that you keep referring to is only the number they have remanded.
    There are also those have been arrested and bailed.
    As the quote was that they have nearly run out of vegan meals over the last couple of months, this cannot only refer to those that have been remanded.
    As remanding them is a very recent development.
    You would know better than me, but as a guess, I would suspect that they have been providing vegan meals for those that have been arrested, and held, before being bailed.
    I expect that there is a limit on the amount of time that they can be held for, without providing them with a meal.





    Many of the protestors are being held in jail whilst awaiting their first court appearance, leaving the force scrambling for £1 vegan ready meals.

    ‘The last couple of months we have come very close to running out of vegan ready meals,’ a police source said.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

    Perhaps they dont usually stock many vegan meals, and they have had a bit of a run on this mob of late.
    I dont think they cook them Phil.
    I cant actually visualise the desk sergeant in a pinny, knocking up cordon bleu meals for the villains.
    They are more likely to be microwaveable stuff out of the freezer.

    If more officers participated in the menopause experiment, maybe they could cook the meals in the hot flush vests.
    At any 1 time, there are about 80,000 people in prison, and a further 15,000 on Remand. So an extra 17 is largely an irrelevance.

    They don't cook them-I expect they use contract caterers. A single school can (and regularly does) accommodate extra meals without the world ending.

    The Police need to stock sufficient numbers of Vegan meals. And do. And always have. However much the Daily Mail tries to pretend otherwise.
    I dont think any police force has any involvement in prison or school catering.
    This article seems to refer to ready meals supplied to people held at police stations.
    The 17 on remand are red herrings.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    because they arrested so many Just Stop Oil protesters during M25 protest



    Essex Police is said to be 'running out of vegan meals' after arresting so many Just Stop Oil protestors this week.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11427223/Police-force-running-vegan-meals-arresting-Just-Stop-Oil-protesters.html

    Please. Stop quoting the inane drivel that is the Daily Fail. More nonsense.

    If you read the article, rather than the clickbait, there are 17 people on Remand in Essex for being Just Stop Oil protesters. 17 isn't exactly a massive number.

    And one man's "nearly ran out of vegan meals" is another man's "had the right amount-everyone got fed, and little or no waste".

    It's not like it isn't possible to cook more food if necessary.

    Perhaps they dont usually stock many vegan meals, and they have had a bit of a run on this mob of late.
    I dont think they cook them Phil.
    I cant actually visualise the desk sergeant in a pinny, knocking up cordon bleu meals for the villains.
    They are more likely to be microwaveable stuff out of the freezer.

    If more officers participated in the menopause experiment, maybe they could cook the meals in the hot flush vests.
    At any 1 time, there are about 80,000 people in prison, and a further 15,000 on Remand. So an extra 17 is largely an irrelevance.

    They don't cook them-I expect they use contract caterers. A single school can (and regularly does) accommodate extra meals without the world ending.

    The Police need to stock sufficient numbers of Vegan meals. And do. And always have. However much the Daily Mail tries to pretend otherwise.
    From the end of September and throughout October, Just Stop Oil staged 32 days of protests, which the Met said resulted in 677 arrests, leading to 111 people charged. According to the group, since its campaign began on 1 April, its supporters have been arrested nearly 2,000 times, with five of its supporters currently in prison.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    This seems reasonable to me....


    "Why do they get special meals? There is no medical reason for it.... they should get standard simple food. If they don't like it they can refuse to eat or eat around the bits they don't like..."
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,548
    Sorry they know their going to get arrested they should bring their own pack Lunch.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Tikay10 said:


    This seems reasonable to me....


    "Why do they get special meals? There is no medical reason for it.... they should get standard simple food. If they don't like it they can refuse to eat or eat around the bits they don't like..."

    Porridge, is that vegan enough?
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    The police & HM Prison service have an obligation to feed them adequately. I'm not at all sure they have any right to request a particular or specialist meal. If we fall foul of the law, we have to accept the consequences, one of which is we no longer get to choose what we eat.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Tikay10 said:


    The police & HM Prison service have an obligation to feed them adequately. I'm not at all sure they have any right to request a particular or specialist meal. If we fall foul of the law, we have to accept the consequences, one of which is we no longer get to choose what we eat.

    I expect they do.
    We are softies.
    I expect they have to accommodate vegetarians, vegans, and any allergies.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268

    "I expect they have to accommodate vegetarians, vegans, and any allergies".



    Allergies, yes, allowance must be made there as it's a health issue, & a potentially serious one. Vegan or vegetarian food, for all their merits, are a matter of choice.

    "Here's your meal, eat it or leave it" would be my answer.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,537
    Tikay10 said:


    "I expect they have to accommodate vegetarians, vegans, and any allergies".



    Allergies, yes, allowance must be made there as it's a health issue, & a potentially serious one. Vegan or vegetarian food, for all their merits, are a matter of choice.

    "Here's your meal, eat it or leave it" would be my answer.

    I am sure many people would agree with you.
    Although I dont suppose they would bother stocking vegan meals if they didnt have to.
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,112
    It's nothing new to play the system as seen in the brilliant film Scum (1979).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA7liS_x1nA

    Archer was only pretending to be a veggie so they would have to give him a special meal. He is playing the system - the same reason why he doesn't wear boots (being anti-leather). He claims to be an atheist to avoid going to church service - avoiding doing what the other inmates do and causing the prison to have to detail an officer to be with him. These little digs at the system are the small victories that allow Archer to feel that the system hasn't crushed his individual spirit. Carlin realizes that Archer is playing the system - he offers him the sausage because he knows that he wants it.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    Tikay10 said:


    "I expect they have to accommodate vegetarians, vegans, and any allergies".



    Allergies, yes, allowance must be made there as it's a health issue, & a potentially serious one. Vegan or vegetarian food, for all their merits, are a matter of choice.

    "Here's your meal, eat it or leave it" would be my answer.

    Fundamentally disagree.

    A Vegan diet is either due to religious belief, or a strong philosophical belief. Similarly, people are entitled to have kosher or halal food. To refuse to allow such things is wrong. Unless you want to gift such people large amounts of money.

    Someone on Remand has not been convicted of anything. It is merely that first the police and second the Courts decided they should be refused Bail pending a Court Case. Which, thanks to most of the Courts having been flogged off, regularly takes 12-18 months before someone may get the chance to prove their innocence.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 161,268
    edited November 2022
    Well I'd give it to them grudgingly, & be super-sulky.

    I'd also give them Izal or Bronco toilet paper too.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,111
    Tikay10 said:

    Well I'd give it to them grudgingly, & be super-sulky.

    I'd also give them Izal or Bronco toilet paper too.

    Or John Wayne loo roll.

    That's rough, and it's tough, and it don't take no sh1t off anyone...
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