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Net migration to the UK hits new record..... should we be worried ?

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I know the above case, and many others down here highlight the need for extra Affordable Housing, and not necessarily Migration, but Asylum Seekers are being put up in hotels in Devon and Cornwall, and will no doubt add to the Housing Crisis in the future :/

    How does putting asylum seekers up in hotels add to the housing crisis?
    After the 80% are approved, they have to live somewhere, adding to the Housing Crisis because they are normally housed in Council Housing
    So nothing to do with hotels then?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    tomgoodun said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    This is regularly on the local news down here in Cornwall


    A mother who lived in a Travelodge in for six months with her three children says she is "so relieved" to have finally moved out.

    Charlene Pascoe's family lived in the St Austell hotel room four times longer than Cornwall Council's normal limit for emergency accommodation.

    It comes as 650 households remain in emergency accommodation amid Cornwall's housing crisis.

    Charlene was told they would be there for six to eight weeks at the most: "then it got extended and it got extended. And then before we knew it, we were up to six months."
    Cornwall Council says people being housed in emergency accommodation such as B&Bs and hotels are having to stay there for longer as there is a lack of homes for them to move into.

    Cllr Olly Monk, who's in charge of the council's housing portfolio, says he's "frustrated for families."

    He says the council is doing all it can to build more homes, but that it takes time: "Until we address that and start building more housing that prioritises local need and we're not going to make a massive dent in the actual amount of people who need accommodation.

    "What the government can do is give us powers to ensure that we can get the planning permission to actually build these new housing.

    "To have more planning authority to make sure that we can have control over the amount of second homes and try and discourage them - where where necessary - and have the ability to build more affordable homes as well.

    "https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-10-06/the-family-of-four-who-lived-in-a-cornwall-travelodge-for-six-months
    Why on earth do we put people that live here up in hotels?
    ......because there isn't enough available, and more importantly AFFORDABLE housing ......certainly in this area :/
    There always is accommodation.
    It may not be where you want it to be, but there always is accommodation.
    Depends what you mean by accommodation.

    Is it like yours or mine? Or a hotel, bedsit, c,rappy private renting with landlord who is Van Hookstragenesque.
    For asylum seekers it is often a camp.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    This is regularly on the local news down here in Cornwall


    A mother who lived in a Travelodge in for six months with her three children says she is "so relieved" to have finally moved out.

    Charlene Pascoe's family lived in the St Austell hotel room four times longer than Cornwall Council's normal limit for emergency accommodation.

    It comes as 650 households remain in emergency accommodation amid Cornwall's housing crisis.

    Charlene was told they would be there for six to eight weeks at the most: "then it got extended and it got extended. And then before we knew it, we were up to six months."
    Cornwall Council says people being housed in emergency accommodation such as B&Bs and hotels are having to stay there for longer as there is a lack of homes for them to move into.

    Cllr Olly Monk, who's in charge of the council's housing portfolio, says he's "frustrated for families."

    He says the council is doing all it can to build more homes, but that it takes time: "Until we address that and start building more housing that prioritises local need and we're not going to make a massive dent in the actual amount of people who need accommodation.

    "What the government can do is give us powers to ensure that we can get the planning permission to actually build these new housing.

    "To have more planning authority to make sure that we can have control over the amount of second homes and try and discourage them - where where necessary - and have the ability to build more affordable homes as well.

    "https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-10-06/the-family-of-four-who-lived-in-a-cornwall-travelodge-for-six-months
    Why on earth do we put people that live here up in hotels?
    ......because there isn't enough available, and more importantly AFFORDABLE housing ......certainly in this area :/
    There always is accommodation.
    It may not be where you want it to be, but there always is accommodation.
    Rents in Cornwall have gone up by 50% since the Pandemic. A small 2 bed terraced house in Camborne is now around £1000 per month.

    Sad to say it, but I'm looking forward to the Housing Crash next Year.
    There are so many houses that have been bought for 2nd homes, and for Air B+Bs, that has fuelled the massive increase in rents and property prices here.
    How can you afford it then?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    MISTY4ME said:

    Essexphil said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    This is regularly on the local news down here in Cornwall


    A mother who lived in a Travelodge in for six months with her three children says she is "so relieved" to have finally moved out.

    Charlene Pascoe's family lived in the St Austell hotel room four times longer than Cornwall Council's normal limit for emergency accommodation.

    It comes as 650 households remain in emergency accommodation amid Cornwall's housing crisis.

    Charlene was told they would be there for six to eight weeks at the most: "then it got extended and it got extended. And then before we knew it, we were up to six months."
    Cornwall Council says people being housed in emergency accommodation such as B&Bs and hotels are having to stay there for longer as there is a lack of homes for them to move into.

    Cllr Olly Monk, who's in charge of the council's housing portfolio, says he's "frustrated for families."

    He says the council is doing all it can to build more homes, but that it takes time: "Until we address that and start building more housing that prioritises local need and we're not going to make a massive dent in the actual amount of people who need accommodation.

    "What the government can do is give us powers to ensure that we can get the planning permission to actually build these new housing.

    "To have more planning authority to make sure that we can have control over the amount of second homes and try and discourage them - where where necessary - and have the ability to build more affordable homes as well.

    "https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-10-06/the-family-of-four-who-lived-in-a-cornwall-travelodge-for-six-months
    Why on earth do we put people that live here up in hotels?
    ......because there isn't enough available, and more importantly AFFORDABLE housing ......certainly in this area :/
    I don't mean to be rude, Jez.

    But I suspect that many Cornish people fail to see the difference between foreign immigrants taking their accommodation and people from Sheffield.

    And people in Villamoura just might have seen you as 1 of the immigrants taking their jobs.

    Or, of course, been (like the majority) welcoming people.
    True Phil ...... you'll have to blame @HAYSIE for that ;)

    I was only working in Vilamoura for the odd week or two, running Specialist golf holidays, and I used to holiday on the Algarve, both Golfing and Sun-seeking, 4 or 5 times a Year, so I did give back to the local community there B)<3o:) </p>
    I had absolutely nothing to do with you moving to Cornwall.
    Prior to that, you were an immigrant in Wales.
    Four or five holidays per year in the Algarve, you must have a good memory.
    You have an extensive grasp of Portuguese crime stats after spending the odd week or two there.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    I think we really take the biscuit in this country.
    It is the same old story.
    Asylum seekers shouldnt be in hotels, put them in camps.
    Yes, so long as the camps are not near me.
    We need more wind farms.
    Yes, so long as they are not near me.
    More affordable housing.
    Yes, but dont build them near me.
    Fracking?
    Not near me.
    It goes on and on.

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    MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,168
    We defo need a lot more Affordable Housing throughout the Country, and I'd be more than happy if it was near me. This was going to be my next Forum thread.....

    We have quite a few wind turbines down here too. One of the most amazing sights I've seen is driving from LA to Palm Springs, and just outside Palm Springs, the hills and mountains are covered with wind turbines that provide the electricity for the area.
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    rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,223
    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    This is regularly on the local news down here in Cornwall


    A mother who lived in a Travelodge in for six months with her three children says she is "so relieved" to have finally moved out.

    Charlene Pascoe's family lived in the St Austell hotel room four times longer than Cornwall Council's normal limit for emergency accommodation.

    It comes as 650 households remain in emergency accommodation amid Cornwall's housing crisis.

    Charlene was told they would be there for six to eight weeks at the most: "then it got extended and it got extended. And then before we knew it, we were up to six months."
    Cornwall Council says people being housed in emergency accommodation such as B&Bs and hotels are having to stay there for longer as there is a lack of homes for them to move into.

    Cllr Olly Monk, who's in charge of the council's housing portfolio, says he's "frustrated for families."

    He says the council is doing all it can to build more homes, but that it takes time: "Until we address that and start building more housing that prioritises local need and we're not going to make a massive dent in the actual amount of people who need accommodation.

    "What the government can do is give us powers to ensure that we can get the planning permission to actually build these new housing.

    "To have more planning authority to make sure that we can have control over the amount of second homes and try and discourage them - where where necessary - and have the ability to build more affordable homes as well.

    "https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-10-06/the-family-of-four-who-lived-in-a-cornwall-travelodge-for-six-months
    Why on earth do we put people that live here up in hotels?
    ......because there isn't enough available, and more importantly AFFORDABLE housing ......certainly in this area :/
    There always is accommodation.
    It may not be where you want it to be, but there always is accommodation.
    There are 7,000 people on the waiting list for a home where I stay, there ain't accommodation for everybody.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    rabdeniro said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    This is regularly on the local news down here in Cornwall


    A mother who lived in a Travelodge in for six months with her three children says she is "so relieved" to have finally moved out.

    Charlene Pascoe's family lived in the St Austell hotel room four times longer than Cornwall Council's normal limit for emergency accommodation.

    It comes as 650 households remain in emergency accommodation amid Cornwall's housing crisis.

    Charlene was told they would be there for six to eight weeks at the most: "then it got extended and it got extended. And then before we knew it, we were up to six months."
    Cornwall Council says people being housed in emergency accommodation such as B&Bs and hotels are having to stay there for longer as there is a lack of homes for them to move into.

    Cllr Olly Monk, who's in charge of the council's housing portfolio, says he's "frustrated for families."

    He says the council is doing all it can to build more homes, but that it takes time: "Until we address that and start building more housing that prioritises local need and we're not going to make a massive dent in the actual amount of people who need accommodation.

    "What the government can do is give us powers to ensure that we can get the planning permission to actually build these new housing.

    "To have more planning authority to make sure that we can have control over the amount of second homes and try and discourage them - where where necessary - and have the ability to build more affordable homes as well.

    "https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-10-06/the-family-of-four-who-lived-in-a-cornwall-travelodge-for-six-months
    Why on earth do we put people that live here up in hotels?
    ......because there isn't enough available, and more importantly AFFORDABLE housing ......certainly in this area :/
    There always is accommodation.
    It may not be where you want it to be, but there always is accommodation.
    There are 7,000 people on the waiting list for a home where I stay, there ain't accommodation for everybody.
    There are council queues everywhere.
    Except maybe for estates that are a bit rough, or tower blocks etc.
    That doesnt mean that the 7,000 on the waiting list havent got accommodation.
    Although I would say it may not be where they want it to be, or at a rent that they are keen on paying.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    MISTY4ME said:

    I know the above case, and many others down here highlight the need for extra Affordable Housing, and not necessarily Migration, but Asylum Seekers are being put up in hotels in Devon and Cornwall, and will no doubt add to the Housing Crisis in the future :/

    Child asylum seekers detained as adults after UK Home Office ‘alters birth dates’


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/child-asylum-seekers-detained-adults-080016474.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I know the above case, and many others down here highlight the need for extra Affordable Housing, and not necessarily Migration, but Asylum Seekers are being put up in hotels in Devon and Cornwall, and will no doubt add to the Housing Crisis in the future :/

    Child asylum seekers detained as adults after UK Home Office ‘alters birth dates’


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/child-asylum-seekers-detained-adults-080016474.html
    Academic who fled Hong Kong for UK granted visa – but her son, 11, is turned down


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/academic-who-fled-hong-kong-for-uk-granted-visa-but-her-son-11-is-turned-down/ar-AA14AzKM?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=036963ccb6a246baab17533f06319199
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    edited November 2022
    MISTY4ME said:

    Personally I'd like to see the numbers lowered considerably. I know they say we are desperately short of people to work in Agriculture, Health/Care and Hospitality, but I'd rather see our own young people 16 - 21 year olds vocationally trained as part of initial employment, and paid minimum wage for 23+ year olds to encourage them to look to these industries as a career

    As 18 year olds are considered to be adults, why shouldn't they be paid the minimum wage the same as 23+ year olds.

    Woman, 74, will spend 'rest of life alone' after Home Office reject UK visa


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/woman-74-spend-rest-life-050000027.html

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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,028
    Is diptheria classed as cultural enrichment?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    MISTY4ME said:

    We defo need a lot more Affordable Housing throughout the Country, and I'd be more than happy if it was near me. This was going to be my next Forum thread.....

    We have quite a few wind turbines down here too. One of the most amazing sights I've seen is driving from LA to Palm Springs, and just outside Palm Springs, the hills and mountains are covered with wind turbines that provide the electricity for the area.

    'I'm an asylum seeker staying in a £100-a-night hotel, I've been waiting here for 15 months and only eat the "bad" food once a day'




    Asylum seekers have been staying in a £100-a-night hotel for up to 15 months as they wait for their applications to be processed after fleeing warzones. An Iraqi Kurd has been living at the Best Western Queen’s Hotel in Crystal Palace, since summer 2021 because his has yet to be dealt with.

    Other migrants in the hotel had been in Germany before coming to London where they received 15 times as much pocket money as they do here, it was claimed. The Home Office has come under fire as it last week emerged the asylum backlog has reached 120,000 people - with applications taking an average of 480 days to complete.

    Home Secretary Suella Braverman has announced asylum staff will get a bonus of £2,500 if they stay in their job for two years or longer. Only four per cent of asylum applications from last year have been processed and asylum caseworkers are taking a week on average to process just one claim.

    They continued: “After four months the Home Office sent me £8 a week. Some people here have been in Germany before and they say they were given 120 euros a week. How can you live on just £8 a week? You can’t even buy one drink with that.”



    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/i-m-an-asylum-seeker-staying-in-a-100-a-night-hotel-i-ve-been-waiting-here-for-15-months-and-only-eat-the-bad-food-once-a-day/ar-AA14PLUx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=51545e546c97415b8b2002f17bf015da
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,028
    If cheap flights are available from Albania to Heathrow, why are they paying thousands to traffickers to jump in a small rubber boat to cross the channel?
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,028
    Can you sit in your T shirt whilst eating your free breakfast?



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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
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    People feared dead after migrant boat incident


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63968941.amp
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,152
    At least three feared dead as migrant boat carrying more than 40 people capsizes in freezing English Channel at 3am as hospital is told to clear A&E to make way for casualties



    At least three people are feared dead after a migrant boat got into difficulties in the early hours of this morning. Emergency calls reporting the vessel was in distress were received by the UK coastguard shortly before 3am. The Marine Traffic radar website showed a cluster of vessels in the channel between Lydd in Kent and the Cap Gris Nez in France.



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11536531/Huge-rescue-operation-launched-migrant-boat-got-difficulty-Channel.html
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    VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,028
    That looks like they were in French waters, if so why weren't they taken to France?
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