So nothing back yet, this makes little sense since it was an online multi choice assessment. I mean in all honesty I would have expected an instant response on whether I passed or not, if it was a test that asked questions in which people wrote sentences or paragraphs to reply fair enough a person has to look at that and evaluate it. However fully multi choice select online would have thought the pass fail mark would be instantanious.
What ever you do, dont mention Sky Poker.
A quick glance on the forum will provide evidence of a supposedly mature adult, that inanely posts a vast number of Bear, and Sponge Bob photos all over the shop. I am sure that you must realise that very few people will find this entertaining, interesting or humorous.
Not unless he is applying for a job at his local Build-A-Bear Workshop. Which if he is,then he's pretty much nailed on for the position...
Just criticising the process wont get you anywhere.
I spent the majority of my working life involved in recruitment. I remember a guy coming to see me, to sell me the benefits of psychometric testing. I dont believe that there was anyone in the world that was more sceptical than me regarding stuff like this. I thought it could only be absolute bullsh1t. The actual questions would be what you would describe as nonsense.
The guy was very confident. In the end I agreed to go along with a test of my existing workforce. I agreed that if the test results matched their performance, I would employ the services of the testing company. It did. I did. From that day forward I wouldnt have been without it. I regarded the £4k per annum, a lot of money at the time, as money well spent.
Directing your efforts into finding someone that can help you through the process, will be more beneficial than just criticising it. If the employers have a round hole, you have to at least appear to be a round peg, rather than just be adamant that you are a square peg, and never get a job.
Sometimes, it is exactly this.
Either that, or be self employed.
At the time I dont believe this type of testing was very common. These days there are a number of firms on line that offer help with them. So they may no longer be as effective.
We obviously took on @MISTY4ME prior to the testing.
And, presumably, you
Yes. The answers to the questions allow you to plot a graph. My graph was used as a template for finding the ideal applicant.
Train to be a Chartered Accountant David ....... always plenty of work and you can become Self Employed, which means you can choose the hours you want to work, and you don't have to worry about interviews, assessments, multi-choice questionnaires.......
and more importantly........ what people think of you and Winnie the Pooh and SpongeBob !
It might be a bit boring...... but it pays the bills and you very rarely see a Poor Accountant ..... and the gf could always help you with the work too
Train to be a Chartered Accountant David ....... always plenty of work and you can become Self Employed, which means you can choose the hours you want to work, and you don't have to worry about interviews, assessments, multi-choice questionnaires.......
and more importantly........ what people think of you and Winnie the Pooh and SpongeBob !
It might be a bit boring...... but it pays the bills and you very rarely see a Poor Accountant ..... and the gf could always help you with the work too
GOOD LUCK mate
What no jobs for Winnie, or Bob? This sounds like a business plan that has come straight off Fantasy Island.
Train to be a Chartered Accountant David ....... always plenty of work and you can become Self Employed, which means you can choose the hours you want to work, and you don't have to worry about interviews, assessments, multi-choice questionnaires.......
and more importantly........ what people think of you and Winnie the Pooh and SpongeBob !
It might be a bit boring...... but it pays the bills and you very rarely see a Poor Accountant ..... and the gf could always help you with the work too
GOOD LUCK mate
accounting is an odd one If I get the right opportunity I would take it, ive had calls about that but for one reason or another it falls apart. I got two potential leads in accounting but nothing concrete.
Train to be a Chartered Accountant David ....... always plenty of work and you can become Self Employed, which means you can choose the hours you want to work, and you don't have to worry about interviews, assessments, multi-choice questionnaires.......
and more importantly........ what people think of you and Winnie the Pooh and SpongeBob !
It might be a bit boring...... but it pays the bills and you very rarely see a Poor Accountant ..... and the gf could always help you with the work too
GOOD LUCK mate
well I applied to an accounting apprentice position which actually offers good pay starting and fully funded acca qualification, they got back to me yesterday and mentioned about me going further and said they would email me today with the details and would need me to write a covering letter and I waited all day for that email and it never came through. So I assume I do not have that job now.
Call me thick but am I reading this wrong, you've obviously got mathematic qualifications why can you not get a job worthy of your abilities with your skills ?
Keep trying to get back in touch with them ........ you have to be persistent, or show that you are really interested. I'm sure they will be happy with you keeping on trying
If you get to interview, the last thing(s) I would mention is
A) Bears(it would take too long) Skypoker ( it's just not what they want to hear) and C) Telling them that @MISTY4ME is your mate 💩
Seriously
Hopefully someone has guided you to write your supporting statement - ideally no more than one side of A4- with short paragraphs to match the essential criteria with eg that fit what they are looking for?
Even if you can't evidence it from other jobs, it can be helpful to use real life experiences....but not bearbabysitting...😉
In terms of psychometric testing, just be yourself and answer honestly...if you try to work out what they want with your responses, they are designed to ask similar/same questions which will catch you out! ( I once got offered a job as my answers were so far the other end of the spectrum, I was closer to what they wanted! If you play safe, you end up being in the middle; nobody remembers the middle I'm afraid ...)
Final point? It's not that they don't want you, it's just in their view there are others that fit the role better....it's not personal!
So I have not heard from the local opportunity yet but I had also not heard from the bristol opportunity yet. So I rang them today to follow up and the guy said I should have heard back its just egilibity checks that they are waiting on he said he would chase it up and email tomorrow. Which would be thursday so now I am wondering if I dont hear from him tomorrow what the best period is to wait to chase that up yet again.
The main reason I want the Bristol job is because then I could make a picture of winni driving a delivery van for the winnis are moving and lots of winnis sticking out
is because it would be a real great career opportunity.
so the bristol job said I wasn't eligible for the job now after checking and the local place has not contacted me at all.
so both those leads out meanwhile an underwriter position has contacted me asking me for a time that is best to call and discuss the position. An assistant/ trainee underwriter would be very valuable work experience towards acquiring an actuarial role. If I was successful in acquiring that role improved my excel and python skills and passed a few actuarial exams after a year I would likely have a very competitive application towards landing an entry actuarial role.
Which would be awesome because this again would allow me to create winni moving van pictures
would be good because would be a very good career development opportunity.
not sure if telling them any time in the afternoon any day looks bad or is ok. however whenever I work its late shifts the NBA is late games and if I play poker its usually late I rarely get to bed before 3am and I am rarely up before 1pm. I am just not going to be lucid if they wake me up at 9am etc
so I have a telephone interview thingy for Monday afternoon now. I have researched the company.
Of note the generic stuff I have is that they are known for having a good work life balance which is good but they also have the regular criticism of micro management.
I once worked in an office with vague instructions and was expected to figure out what to do and find stuff to do and I did not fit well in that environment. I cannot really work like that. Been given clear instructions and regular guidance would be a positive, however having someone check up on me on a frequent basis and ask me to account for what i have done regularly would be stressful and would not work for me. I cant really ask which one it is over the phone though or in a face to face interview if I got there because that just feels like it would not help my chances.
One thing is I am applying for jobs all over the country for the right opportunities and would have to relocate this causes a few issues expecting me to find a place in another location at very short notice would be difficult so not sure how patient employers will be with that.
Further issues are the contract I have had unworkable contracts in the past, one example was a kitchen that wanted a term in there saying I was liable for anything I brake. It may reflect bad on me if you do not know much about kitchen work, but been rushed in a kitchen as a kitchen porter paid min wage and expected to pay for any broken plates is difficult, also whilst unlikely I have seen one kid break a £1000 piece of kitchen equipment before (obviously unintentionally). If that had been me on min wage and I was expected to pay for that well it would be difficult.
Now another place had issues in their contract when it said about any relatives owning a business as a conflict of interest. I mean what can I do there? I dont get any money from that business and I cant ask the family member to sell the business so i can have a low wage job.
I can go on about other potential terms but its a waste of time as its speculation but I cannot commit to take a job halfway across the country without knowing what contract I am signing.
So do I just say something along the lines of Yes happy in principle to take the job pending my review of the contract? that sounds bad.
I mean how do I work with that or do I just accept the job then wait to see the contract and be ready to raise issues there? because I have in the past only seen the contract once I have already started the job.
So I move to Manchester or Bristol start the job and on the third day I potentially get given a contract to sign that has unworkable terms. not ideal I dont know how to navigate that one.
so I have a telephone interview thingy for Monday afternoon now. I have researched the company.
Of note the generic stuff I have is that they are known for having a good work life balance which is good but they also have the regular criticism of micro management.
I once worked in an office with vague instructions and was expected to figure out what to do and find stuff to do and I did not fit well in that environment. I cannot really work like that. Been given clear instructions and regular guidance would be a positive, however having someone check up on me on a frequent basis and ask me to account for what i have done regularly would be stressful and would not work for me. I cant really ask which one it is over the phone though or in a face to face interview if I got there because that just feels like it would not help my chances.
One thing is I am applying for jobs all over the country for the right opportunities and would have to relocate this causes a few issues expecting me to find a place in another location at very short notice would be difficult so not sure how patient employers will be with that. Further issues are the contract I have had unworkable contracts in the past, one example was a kitchen that wanted a term in there saying I was liable for anything I brake. It may reflect bad on me if you do not know much about kitchen work, but been rushed in a kitchen as a kitchen porter paid min wage and expected to pay for any broken plates is difficult, also whilst unlikely I have seen one kid break a £1000 piece of kitchen equipment before (obviously unintentionally). If that had been me on min wage and I was expected to pay for that well it would be difficult.
Now another place had issues in their contract when it said about any relatives owning a business as a conflict of interest. I mean what can I do there? I dont get any money from that business and I cant ask the family member to sell the business so i can have a low wage job.
I can go on about other potential terms but its a waste of time as its speculation but I cannot commit to take a job halfway across the country without knowing what contract I am signing.
So do I just say something along the lines of Yes happy in principle to take the job pending my review of the contract? that sounds bad.
I mean how do I work with that or do I just accept the job then wait to see the contract and be ready to raise issues there? because I have in the past only seen the contract once I have already started the job.
So I move to Manchester or Bristol start the job and on the third day I potentially get given a contract to sign that has unworkable terms. not ideal I dont know how to navigate that one.
Was another example that you must not post childish pictures on adult forums?
so I have a telephone interview thingy for Monday afternoon now. I have researched the company.
Of note the generic stuff I have is that they are known for having a good work life balance which is good but they also have the regular criticism of micro management.
I once worked in an office with vague instructions and was expected to figure out what to do and find stuff to do and I did not fit well in that environment. I cannot really work like that. Been given clear instructions and regular guidance would be a positive, however having someone check up on me on a frequent basis and ask me to account for what i have done regularly would be stressful and would not work for me. I cant really ask which one it is over the phone though or in a face to face interview if I got there because that just feels like it would not help my chances.
One thing is I am applying for jobs all over the country for the right opportunities and would have to relocate this causes a few issues expecting me to find a place in another location at very short notice would be difficult so not sure how patient employers will be with that. Further issues are the contract I have had unworkable contracts in the past, one example was a kitchen that wanted a term in there saying I was liable for anything I brake. It may reflect bad on me if you do not know much about kitchen work, but been rushed in a kitchen as a kitchen porter paid min wage and expected to pay for any broken plates is difficult, also whilst unlikely I have seen one kid break a £1000 piece of kitchen equipment before (obviously unintentionally). If that had been me on min wage and I was expected to pay for that well it would be difficult.
Now another place had issues in their contract when it said about any relatives owning a business as a conflict of interest. I mean what can I do there? I dont get any money from that business and I cant ask the family member to sell the business so i can have a low wage job.
I can go on about other potential terms but its a waste of time as its speculation but I cannot commit to take a job halfway across the country without knowing what contract I am signing.
So do I just say something along the lines of Yes happy in principle to take the job pending my review of the contract? that sounds bad.
I mean how do I work with that or do I just accept the job then wait to see the contract and be ready to raise issues there? because I have in the past only seen the contract once I have already started the job.
So I move to Manchester or Bristol start the job and on the third day I potentially get given a contract to sign that has unworkable terms. not ideal I dont know how to navigate that one.
Was another example that you must not post childish pictures on adult forums?
no that would be a very strange and unusual thing to have in any contract. I dont know what your beef against me is dude but you clearly got some.
so I have a telephone interview thingy for Monday afternoon now. I have researched the company.
Of note the generic stuff I have is that they are known for having a good work life balance which is good but they also have the regular criticism of micro management.
I once worked in an office with vague instructions and was expected to figure out what to do and find stuff to do and I did not fit well in that environment. I cannot really work like that. Been given clear instructions and regular guidance would be a positive, however having someone check up on me on a frequent basis and ask me to account for what i have done regularly would be stressful and would not work for me. I cant really ask which one it is over the phone though or in a face to face interview if I got there because that just feels like it would not help my chances.
One thing is I am applying for jobs all over the country for the right opportunities and would have to relocate this causes a few issues expecting me to find a place in another location at very short notice would be difficult so not sure how patient employers will be with that. Further issues are the contract I have had unworkable contracts in the past, one example was a kitchen that wanted a term in there saying I was liable for anything I brake. It may reflect bad on me if you do not know much about kitchen work, but been rushed in a kitchen as a kitchen porter paid min wage and expected to pay for any broken plates is difficult, also whilst unlikely I have seen one kid break a £1000 piece of kitchen equipment before (obviously unintentionally). If that had been me on min wage and I was expected to pay for that well it would be difficult.
Now another place had issues in their contract when it said about any relatives owning a business as a conflict of interest. I mean what can I do there? I dont get any money from that business and I cant ask the family member to sell the business so i can have a low wage job.
I can go on about other potential terms but its a waste of time as its speculation but I cannot commit to take a job halfway across the country without knowing what contract I am signing.
So do I just say something along the lines of Yes happy in principle to take the job pending my review of the contract? that sounds bad.
I mean how do I work with that or do I just accept the job then wait to see the contract and be ready to raise issues there? because I have in the past only seen the contract once I have already started the job.
So I move to Manchester or Bristol start the job and on the third day I potentially get given a contract to sign that has unworkable terms. not ideal I dont know how to navigate that one.
Was another example that you must not post childish pictures on adult forums?
no that would be a very strange and unusual thing to have in any contract. I dont know what your beef against me is dude but you clearly got some.
No beef Dave, all good. You post some of the most odd posts that I've ever seen on a public forum, but each to their own.
Speaking of which, are you on social media? Because if you are and you post similar things on there then that would definitely put off future employers.
I think your experience of working for bad companies and bad managers is doing you a disservice here. Remember that you are applying for professional roles at what I assume are professional companies.
That doesn't mean all companies are good to work for and that you'll get a good boss, but you won't get any nonsense in the contract. The worst thing you will probably have to sign up for is recognising that you'll need to work some unpaid overtime every now and then. No professional company would ever let you start before you review and sign an employment contract.
I would be wary about taking too much notice of sites like Glassdoor. Company culture is one thing but a lot depends on the person that is your line manager. I've gone back and forth a little bit in my head about your requirements for a line manager. Initially, my thought was that what you want may not exist - you want detailed instruction and support but without somebody checking up on you seem to be at loggerheads. Then I thought about it a bit more and I think you can be in a sweet spot as a manager between hands off but still being available to help your team. I try to do that but don't always get it right and perception of your management style really depends upon the member of staff. Ultimately, I want somebody that can work independently and figure out their own problems, but I'm happy to steer them in the right direction. Some people just can't work like that and want micro, step-by-step guidance. That's not somebody that can work for me if they are still like that after six months.
A phone interview is just a quick screening by an HR person with some competency questions, so it's not the place to ask many things. You can ask about company culture and what they like about working for that company and what keeps them there - the answers to those questions are normally insightful. Also some info about hybrid working is telling - if they say it's 4 days in the office non-negotiable then that would set some alarm bells off for me about a lack of trust in the employees.
Finally, I would recommend visiting the offices before accepting any offer. Ideally you would do the second interview in person to get a sense of things. When I took a role at my current employer ten years ago, I had two offers on the table. I went with my current employer because I heard two people having a conversation in the reception area that made me think this is a great place to work. That and my new potential boss was friendly and had a clear plan for my role.
It is true i have worked for quite a few bad companies. I am not so worried about unpaid overtime depending on the extent amount and frequency. It is odd for me to entertain going at 5pm on the dot assuming that is my finishing time, when I still have a task to finish. Like 15 minutes away from finishing that task whatever it is and nope its on the dot on my finish time I am running out the door.
To me that sounds like bad attitude but if I am regularly putting in 10+ unpaid over time hours a week that does not sound great. I think overtime would always be relevant the situation and amount. I could go on for that one but I think we likely all have a vague idea of what is and is not reasonable there, and it would likely be similar.
When I start a new role that support works but at some point I am going to get comfortable performing the job unsupervised where ideally I would only need to ask something occasionally. I think my issue with one of the jobs was I was responsible for sorting out orders been sent out and once that was done then what? I had no clear duties beyond that, and was supposed to find something to do but what like call up potential customers and try to sell? I wasn't trained in that did not know how much anything cost and was not given that authority. I guess its not so much needing consistent micro management but having a clear job role and duties rather then been expected to make one. I think that particular company was unique though and not typical of many places.
I have had the phone screening as that was pretty much what it was. mixed bag I did not fit the profile of what they were specifically looking for but they did think actually whilst different my application was interesting. I have no idea what I am doing answering questions but they did say they were hoping for me and would recommend me to the next stage but its not their decision and there are a lot of applicants.
I had my major questions answer the main one been start date relocating half way across the country is not something I can do in a week fortunately this would be in sept so plenty of time.
I did briefly think about if I got the job I could do a winni post about saving for the move eg finding two months rent paying for the two guys and a van which would be pricy cross country and the deposit. Technically it would be a lie because I have the funds for this but I dont want to wipe out my rainy day savings. I then would just continue on zero hour contracts up to 30 hours or so then the rest of the time poker. Basically my poker win rate is taxed min wage. I would then have had winni in the kitchen winni in a warehouse etc etc. But then I have had jobs that dont work out and if i did that and this job did not work out I would feel like an idiot so that thread wont get made.
I think contract is something that I would have to see I mean theegde and others have mentioned I worry too much, a company does not have to be a bad company to have a term in there which unworkable for me specifically but I can worry about all potentials it wont do me any good I will just have to cross that bridge when I come to it.
They even said to me over the phone that they wouldnt have a new starter who had not seen and signed the contract so I think your right on that one.
and in regards to posting on social media as @waller02 mentioned I tend to seriously limit my social media posts, whilst there are enough people on here who know my name and who I am it still remains mostly anonymous, as in most people dont know those details about me from here. It is also unlikely an employer would find me here and link it to me. These days people are so judgemental about reading too much into anything and taking it the wrong way its just not worth it.
There is one image I have been tempted to post to my facebook though and that is this. That may seem odd but I once played coin master a long time ago probably to get bonus in another game or just to try it out I dont know. However a few people have actively played it just to be able to attack me on that game because they could find me through facebook and boasted for ages even though I quit playing years ago I dont even remember what the game is hopefully I have been killed of by now in it if that is possible dont know dont remember much about it. But its annoying so I had this ready to post if someone kicks of again about that just to be like yeah ok your better then me at that game so what now please shut up.
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Yes.
The answers to the questions allow you to plot a graph.
My graph was used as a template for finding the ideal applicant.
Train to be a Chartered Accountant David ....... always plenty of work and you can become Self Employed, which means you can choose the hours you want to work, and you don't have to worry about interviews, assessments, multi-choice questionnaires.......
and more importantly........ what people think of you and Winnie the Pooh and SpongeBob !
It might be a bit boring...... but it pays the bills and you very rarely see a Poor Accountant ..... and the gf could always help you with the work too
GOOD LUCK mate
This sounds like a business plan that has come straight off Fantasy Island.
Last time well I applied to an accounting apprentice position which actually offers good pay starting and fully funded acca qualification, they got back to me yesterday and mentioned about me going further and said they would email me today with the details and would need me to write a covering letter and I waited all day for that email and it never came through. So I assume I do not have that job now.
Keep trying to get back in touch with them ........ you have to be persistent, or show that you are really interested. I'm sure they will be happy with you keeping on trying
One thing @HAYSIE taught me........
Never ASSUME .....'coz it makes an **** of U and ME
A) Bears(it would take too long)
C) Telling them that @MISTY4ME is your mate 💩
Seriously
Hopefully someone has guided you to write your supporting statement - ideally no more than one side of A4- with short paragraphs to match the essential criteria with eg that fit what they are looking for?
Even if you can't evidence it from other jobs, it can be helpful to use real life experiences....but not bearbabysitting...😉
In terms of psychometric testing, just be yourself and answer honestly...if you try to work out what they want with your responses, they are designed to ask similar/same questions which will catch you out! ( I once got offered a job as my answers were so far the other end of the spectrum, I was closer to what they wanted! If you play safe, you end up being in the middle; nobody remembers the middle I'm afraid ...)
Final point? It's not that they don't want you, it's just in their view there are others that fit the role better....it's not personal!
Gl and stick with it!
MP
The main reason I want the Bristol job is because then I could make a picture of winni driving a delivery van for the winnis are moving and lots of winnis sticking outis because it would be a real great career opportunity.
so both those leads out meanwhile an underwriter position has contacted me asking me for a time that is best to call and discuss the position. An assistant/ trainee underwriter would be very valuable work experience towards acquiring an actuarial role. If I was successful in acquiring that role improved my excel and python skills and passed a few actuarial exams after a year I would likely have a very competitive application towards landing an entry actuarial role.
Which would be awesome because this again would allow me to create winni moving van pictureswould be good because would be a very good career development opportunity.
not sure if telling them any time in the afternoon any day looks bad or is ok. however whenever I work its late shifts the NBA is late games and if I play poker its usually late I rarely get to bed before 3am and I am rarely up before 1pm. I am just not going to be lucid if they wake me up at 9am etc
Of note the generic stuff I have is that they are known for having a good work life balance which is good but they also have the regular criticism of micro management.
I once worked in an office with vague instructions and was expected to figure out what to do and find stuff to do and I did not fit well in that environment. I cannot really work like that. Been given clear instructions and regular guidance would be a positive, however having someone check up on me on a frequent basis and ask me to account for what i have done regularly would be stressful and would not work for me. I cant really ask which one it is over the phone though or in a face to face interview if I got there because that just feels like it would not help my chances.
One thing is I am applying for jobs all over the country for the right opportunities and would have to relocate this causes a few issues expecting me to find a place in another location at very short notice would be difficult so not sure how patient employers will be with that.
Further issues are the contract I have had unworkable contracts in the past, one example was a kitchen that wanted a term in there saying I was liable for anything I brake. It may reflect bad on me if you do not know much about kitchen work, but been rushed in a kitchen as a kitchen porter paid min wage and expected to pay for any broken plates is difficult, also whilst unlikely I have seen one kid break a £1000 piece of kitchen equipment before (obviously unintentionally). If that had been me on min wage and I was expected to pay for that well it would be difficult.
Now another place had issues in their contract when it said about any relatives owning a business as a conflict of interest. I mean what can I do there? I dont get any money from that business and I cant ask the family member to sell the business so i can have a low wage job.
I can go on about other potential terms but its a waste of time as its speculation but I cannot commit to take a job halfway across the country without knowing what contract I am signing.
So do I just say something along the lines of Yes happy in principle to take the job pending my review of the contract? that sounds bad.
I mean how do I work with that or do I just accept the job then wait to see the contract and be ready to raise issues there? because I have in the past only seen the contract once I have already started the job.
So I move to Manchester or Bristol start the job and on the third day I potentially get given a contract to sign that has unworkable terms. not ideal I dont know how to navigate that one.
Speaking of which, are you on social media? Because if you are and you post similar things on there then that would definitely put off future employers.
That doesn't mean all companies are good to work for and that you'll get a good boss, but you won't get any nonsense in the contract. The worst thing you will probably have to sign up for is recognising that you'll need to work some unpaid overtime every now and then. No professional company would ever let you start before you review and sign an employment contract.
I would be wary about taking too much notice of sites like Glassdoor. Company culture is one thing but a lot depends on the person that is your line manager. I've gone back and forth a little bit in my head about your requirements for a line manager. Initially, my thought was that what you want may not exist - you want detailed instruction and support but without somebody checking up on you seem to be at loggerheads. Then I thought about it a bit more and I think you can be in a sweet spot as a manager between hands off but still being available to help your team. I try to do that but don't always get it right and perception of your management style really depends upon the member of staff. Ultimately, I want somebody that can work independently and figure out their own problems, but I'm happy to steer them in the right direction. Some people just can't work like that and want micro, step-by-step guidance. That's not somebody that can work for me if they are still like that after six months.
A phone interview is just a quick screening by an HR person with some competency questions, so it's not the place to ask many things. You can ask about company culture and what they like about working for that company and what keeps them there - the answers to those questions are normally insightful. Also some info about hybrid working is telling - if they say it's 4 days in the office non-negotiable then that would set some alarm bells off for me about a lack of trust in the employees.
Finally, I would recommend visiting the offices before accepting any offer. Ideally you would do the second interview in person to get a sense of things. When I took a role at my current employer ten years ago, I had two offers on the table. I went with my current employer because I heard two people having a conversation in the reception area that made me think this is a great place to work. That and my new potential boss was friendly and had a clear plan for my role.
To me that sounds like bad attitude but if I am regularly putting in 10+ unpaid over time hours a week that does not sound great. I think overtime would always be relevant the situation and amount. I could go on for that one but I think we likely all have a vague idea of what is and is not reasonable there, and it would likely be similar.
When I start a new role that support works but at some point I am going to get comfortable performing the job unsupervised where ideally I would only need to ask something occasionally. I think my issue with one of the jobs was I was responsible for sorting out orders been sent out and once that was done then what? I had no clear duties beyond that, and was supposed to find something to do but what like call up potential customers and try to sell? I wasn't trained in that did not know how much anything cost and was not given that authority. I guess its not so much needing consistent micro management but having a clear job role and duties rather then been expected to make one. I think that particular company was unique though and not typical of many places.
I have had the phone screening as that was pretty much what it was. mixed bag I did not fit the profile of what they were specifically looking for but they did think actually whilst different my application was interesting. I have no idea what I am doing answering questions but they did say they were hoping for me and would recommend me to the next stage but its not their decision and there are a lot of applicants.
I had my major questions answer the main one been start date relocating half way across the country is not something I can do in a week fortunately this would be in sept so plenty of time.
I did briefly think about if I got the job I could do a winni post about saving for the move eg finding two months rent paying for the two guys and a van which would be pricy cross country and the deposit. Technically it would be a lie because I have the funds for this but I dont want to wipe out my rainy day savings. I then would just continue on zero hour contracts up to 30 hours or so then the rest of the time poker. Basically my poker win rate is taxed min wage. I would then have had winni in the kitchen winni in a warehouse etc etc. But then I have had jobs that dont work out and if i did that and this job did not work out I would feel like an idiot so that thread wont get made.
I think contract is something that I would have to see I mean theegde and others have mentioned I worry too much, a company does not have to be a bad company to have a term in there which unworkable for me specifically but I can worry about all potentials it wont do me any good I will just have to cross that bridge when I come to it.
They even said to me over the phone that they wouldnt have a new starter who had not seen and signed the contract so I think your right on that one.
thanks for your input
There is one image I have been tempted to post to my facebook though and that is this.
That may seem odd but I once played coin master a long time ago probably to get bonus in another game or just to try it out I dont know. However a few people have actively played it just to be able to attack me on that game because they could find me through facebook and boasted for ages even though I quit playing years ago I dont even remember what the game is hopefully I have been killed of by now in it if that is possible dont know dont remember much about it. But its annoying so I had this ready to post if someone kicks of again about that just to be like yeah ok your better then me at that game so what now please shut up.