Reform UK makes admission over 'invisible' candidates at election in Glasgow

HAYSIE

Farage-The West "Provoked" Putin.





He has ranged from arguing against diversity quotas for BAME people, saying “the idea we should give people jobs according to how suntanned they are, the colour of their skin” was nonsense, to suggesting that some people on benefits are “too fat … too stupid, too lazy” to work.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/farage-said-andrew-tate-important-210041922.html

Essexphil

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

I appreciate what you say, but irrespective of how rich or poor you are, or live in a run down area, a vote for such a despicable character like Farage, will change absolutely nothing.

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

Think that was the Survation one.

2 things to note there:-

1. The individual seat ones are notoriously inaccurate.
2. That poll was not Survation's own. They did it on behalf of Arron Banks

There needs to be a rule change. So that, after an election is called, polling companies have a linear choice. Either be an independent polling company, or work for vested interests.

Not both.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

Think that was the Survation one.

2 things to note there:-

1. The individual seat ones are notoriously inaccurate.
2. That poll was not Survation's own. They did it on behalf of Arron Banks

There needs to be a rule change. So that, after an election is called, polling companies have a linear choice. Either be an independent polling company, or work for vested interests.

Not both.

Ok.
The other thing that will be affecting all these polls is that many commentators are saying that there are a huge number of people that are still undecided.

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

Think that was the Survation one.

2 things to note there:-

1. The individual seat ones are notoriously inaccurate.
2. That poll was not Survation's own. They did it on behalf of Arron Banks

There needs to be a rule change. So that, after an election is called, polling companies have a linear choice. Either be an independent polling company, or work for vested interests.

Not both.

Ok.
The other thing that will be affecting all these polls is that many commentators are saying that there are a huge number of people that are still undecided.

Think I mentioned this a while ago.

Amazingly, there is no standard way of counting the "undecided". And no pollsters (as opposed to real people) counts them as, er, undecided.

Some start with asking who people voted for at the last election, and place the undecided there. Which is ridiculous. Firstly, many of these people will not vote at all. And secondly, the Tory vote has halved.

Another point is there is no set way of asking people. So some start "Tory, Labour, Reform Lib Dems" while others start "Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, Other". Totally skewing the results.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

Think that was the Survation one.

2 things to note there:-

1. The individual seat ones are notoriously inaccurate.
2. That poll was not Survation's own. They did it on behalf of Arron Banks

There needs to be a rule change. So that, after an election is called, polling companies have a linear choice. Either be an independent polling company, or work for vested interests.

Not both.

Ok.
The other thing that will be affecting all these polls is that many commentators are saying that there are a huge number of people that are still undecided.

Think I mentioned this a while ago.

Amazingly, there is no standard way of counting the "undecided". And no pollsters (as opposed to real people) counts them as, er, undecided.

Some start with asking who people voted for at the last election, and place the undecided there. Which is ridiculous. Firstly, many of these people will not vote at all. And secondly, the Tory vote has halved.

Another point is there is no set way of asking people. So some start "Tory, Labour, Reform Lib Dems" while others start "Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, Other". Totally skewing the results.

Yet they all claim polling has improved.

Essexphil

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

Think that was the Survation one.

2 things to note there:-

1. The individual seat ones are notoriously inaccurate.
2. That poll was not Survation's own. They did it on behalf of Arron Banks

There needs to be a rule change. So that, after an election is called, polling companies have a linear choice. Either be an independent polling company, or work for vested interests.

Not both.

Ok.
The other thing that will be affecting all these polls is that many commentators are saying that there are a huge number of people that are still undecided.

Think I mentioned this a while ago.

Amazingly, there is no standard way of counting the "undecided". And no pollsters (as opposed to real people) counts them as, er, undecided.

Some start with asking who people voted for at the last election, and place the undecided there. Which is ridiculous. Firstly, many of these people will not vote at all. And secondly, the Tory vote has halved.

Another point is there is no set way of asking people. So some start "Tory, Labour, Reform Lib Dems" while others start "Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, Other". Totally skewing the results.

Yet they all claim polling has improved.

It has.

But that is not the same as saying it is accurate.

The polls claim a degree of accuracy that is clearly wrong. You only have to compare and contrast the vote shares from different polling companies to show they are less accurate than claimed. Particularly in relation to Reform-which seem to be varying between 9% and 22%. Clearly some are plain wrong.

The new technology in relation to predicting tactical voting is a step forward. But very much a step into the unknown.

The other problem is that Polls only get data on how people say they are going to vote. Not how they will actually vote.

HAYSIE

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

HAYSIE said:

Essexphil said:

Farage is a waste of flesh. A man who singlehandedly confounds Darwin's theory.

Let's leave to 1 side his cretinous support for Andrew Tate. Who is indeed an important voice. For Rapists.

Let's give a simple example of why an element of positive discrimination is necessary. Merely to even the playing field.

Most people are not racist. But most people do have an unconscious bias. I will explain why.

Suppose a Company is recruiting for people who will initially be in a fairly Junior position. But are intended to be fast-tracked to be the future Directors of the Company.

There are 2 stages where some people get an advantage. When it comes to selecting for interview, the less well educated, the Graduates from lesser Universities, get filtered out. And the people whose parents were well enough positioned to give their children relevant Internships stand out.

Then at interview stage. The interview panel tends to consist of about 4 people. 3 of which will be 50+ year old White men. Who naturally believe that they are the successful present of the Company. And will tend to recruit people who remind them of what they were like at that age. Because they seek to mirror their own success. Not deliberately. It is just human nature.

Which is why a Public-School educated White Guy tends to get the job.

I wouldnt disagree with that.
Why on earth are the people of Clacton going to elect him with a huge majority?

Clacton is different from many seats.

Clacton itself is a very White town-with lots of people who lived in London many years ago. A lot of whom feel displaced as London has changed over the years, and yearn for the London that people believe existed in the 1960s.

Clacton is poor. The cheapest town to live in in the Home Counties. And immediately to the West is Jaywick-quite possibly the poorest place in England.

Various rural villages and small towns also lie in the Constituency-including Frinton (where the current MP lives). Average age about 102.

Strangely, Labour are claiming they can win this seat. Whereas all that is doing is confusing potential Tory voters and helping Farage.

Doubt Farage will get a huge majority. But it is starting to look like he will win. Without, AFAIK, coming up with a single policy for the voters of Clacton. Because he treats voters with contempt.

When Farage says he intends to run for PM in 2029 what he really means is that he knows he needs to be an MP before being able to run to be Conservative leader. Far easier to cross the floor than to be a lifelong Tory who isn't an MP. So-for example-he will be better placed than all those Tories who lose their seats, like (say) Mordaunt or Jendrick.

PS. Part of the Masterplan is this. People will say the Tories need a caretaker leader after the Election. Someone like Priti Patel. To pave the way for Farage.

The latest polling according to Sky News yesterday was Farage 45% Tories 25%.

Think that was the Survation one.

2 things to note there:-

1. The individual seat ones are notoriously inaccurate.
2. That poll was not Survation's own. They did it on behalf of Arron Banks

There needs to be a rule change. So that, after an election is called, polling companies have a linear choice. Either be an independent polling company, or work for vested interests.

Not both.

Ok.
The other thing that will be affecting all these polls is that many commentators are saying that there are a huge number of people that are still undecided.

Think I mentioned this a while ago.

Amazingly, there is no standard way of counting the "undecided". And no pollsters (as opposed to real people) counts them as, er, undecided.

Some start with asking who people voted for at the last election, and place the undecided there. Which is ridiculous. Firstly, many of these people will not vote at all. And secondly, the Tory vote has halved.

Another point is there is no set way of asking people. So some start "Tory, Labour, Reform Lib Dems" while others start "Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, Other". Totally skewing the results.

Yet they all claim polling has improved.

It has.

But that is not the same as saying it is accurate.

The polls claim a degree of accuracy that is clearly wrong. You only have to compare and contrast the vote shares from different polling companies to show they are less accurate than claimed. Particularly in relation to Reform-which seem to be varying between 9% and 22%. Clearly some are plain wrong.

The new technology in relation to predicting tactical voting is a step forward. But very much a step into the unknown.

The other problem is that Polls only get data on how people say they are going to vote. Not how they will actually vote.

I suppose polls showing 50% undecided wouldnt be worth a light.

pompeynic

As I said in my post the other day.
Not fit for purpose

rabdeniro

He is a ****, but this is the joy of living in a so called democracy, the people choose.

HAYSIE

rabdeniro said:

He is a ****, but this is the joy of living in a so called democracy, the people choose.

How could any group of people choose him?

pompeynic

Somehow a large group of people chose Trump

HAYSIE

pompeynic said:

Somehow a large group of people chose Trump

Even more difficult to understand in my opinion.

HAYSIE

VespaPX

TheEdge949

HAYSIE said:

rabdeniro said:

He is a ****, but this is the joy of living in a so called democracy, the people choose.

How could any group of people choose him?

I would suggest that it is in some part a way of reminding the current "big two" that we as voters always have a choice.

You know that putting this undesirable cretin in Parliament will not change the big picture but it says to them that right now they are less respected and popular than an odious pile of excrement.

HAYSIE

TheEdge949 said:

HAYSIE said:

rabdeniro said:

He is a ****, but this is the joy of living in a so called democracy, the people choose.

How could any group of people choose him?

I would suggest that it is in some part a way of reminding the current "big two" that we as voters always have a choice.

You know that putting this undesirable cretin in Parliament will not change the big picture but it says to them that right now they are less respected and popular than an odious pile of excrement.

Voting for Farage is more stupid than Americans voting for Trump.
In the US if enough people vote for Trump, they get him as President.
If the people of Clacton vote for Farage they just get a dodgy MP, that will be a nonentity in the HoC.
I might be wrong, but he doesnt strike me as someone who is likely to spend his time outside parliament in Clacton helping his constituents, he will be concentrating his efforts on earning extra money.

He and Trump are divisive.
I could never vote for either of them.

Farage is in his element in the election campaign, as he is in the limeight.
It sickens me to see him prancing around the country with that stupid smirk on his face.
I personally cant see the point in voting for Farage/Reform, as you will get Keir Starmer, and a Labour government anyway.
No logic.

According to the polls Reform may get 5 seats, so they will be on a par with Plaid Cymru, and the Greens in respect of influence in the HoC.

The argument against PR is that Reform may get a load more seats.
That shouldnt make anyone happy.

I would rather eat 100 ballot papers than vote for Farage.