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The ultimate challenge mission impossible could I really do this?

DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
So I have played a lot of civ games and I have I like to think always been above average I usually always have to play on a hard difficulty unless I want to play in zombie sleep mode and even then. However one thing I have never been able to do apart from borderline cheating (not actual cheating but setting up a game where it one vs one and you start in modern era with all techs and just declare nuke and take their city in one turn which i dont think counts and may as well be cheating) is beat any of the games on deity.

This is a real challenge and many have struggled but of course there are those that have pulled it off. Now I know so many people on here are going to come on and claim that they have beaten the every civ game on deity difficulty just to troll me, I can believe there may be a civ diety beater lurking here somewhere but not the whole community its a very rare and hard achievement so lets not get silly.

However I recently found a way of getting civ 2 to work on my laptop and have played through and reached a point where even emperor difficulty (the difficulty level just before diety) is easy with the right start I mean on civ 5 I had a few immortal wins (the difficulty before diety there) but never beat diety unless you count that border line cheat thing I mentioned in the first paragraph. but then I struggled for those immortal wins. I have not struggled for the emperor wins in civ 2.

So the nail biting moment comes down to it I am going to try and do the unthinkable a legitimate civilization diety beater!!! This will likely take several weeks as if I tried to play the volume outright my girlfriend would hit the roof as I would basically do nothing else. This may be intense.


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  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,649
    Wow.

    Meanwhile in the real world Dave is still to realise that his whole world is merely a CGI generated experience and he is in fact in a basement, in his underwear, eating suger puff sandwiches and referring to a sprite as his girlfriend.

    All hail Dave the Deity.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052

    Wow.

    Meanwhile in the real world Dave is still to realise that his whole world is merely a CGI generated experience and he is in fact in a basement, in his underwear, eating suger puff sandwiches and referring to a sprite as his girlfriend.

    All hail Dave the Deity.

    civilization is a computer game series I thought that was obvious, when you believe in an imaginery sky daddy based on a book which goes against basic logic and evidence your not really one who should be lecturing others about living in the real world.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    Civ 2 is still my favourite of all the Civ games.

    Still play it, pretty much every day. And have done since the 1990s. But I don't play it on deity mode ;)
  • Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 587
    Civ 2 was great: a real advance on the original, but without overly complicating things. That WW2 scenario was fantastic.
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,474

    Wow.

    Meanwhile in the real world Dave is still to realise that his whole world is merely a CGI generated experience and he is in fact in a basement, in his underwear, eating suger puff sandwiches and referring to a sprite as his girlfriend.

    All hail Dave the Deity.

    You think he's wearing underwear?
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    Essexphil said:

    Civ 2 is still my favourite of all the Civ games.

    Still play it, pretty much every day. And have done since the 1990s. But I don't play it on deity mode ;)

    yeah I think diety mode is a real challenge I think of all the civ games its either Civ 5 or Civ 2 that is the best. I think spys are way over powered in civ 2.
    Been able to outright buy cities with spies seems like an over game exploit and been two eras ahead and a diplomat steals amphibious war or tactics seems a bit silly. it seems the main strategys are either to go super science city where you build the coluses observatory and isac newtons colledge all in a city with a high trade terrain, or to go mass spies and super tax and just buy cities to advance.

    I have made the super sci city work multiple times but have yet to try all tax and buy cities for advance.

    on higher difficulty a lot depends on starting location, with no opponents near by or a sudden quick army from huts at the beggining to take out near rivals and a lot of cities in good locations from huts combined with the super science city and you can hit industrial era before AD and the game is already over. conversly if you have a few huts/bad luck with huts and a poor starting location with an aggressive AI near by your done.

    Where as if you have start on a tiny island your done. I noticed on diety as soon as city is size 2 without temple anarchy so had to restart for a game where I start with cermonial buriel but now we off and going.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,649
    Enut said:

    Wow.

    Meanwhile in the real world Dave is still to realise that his whole world is merely a CGI generated experience and he is in fact in a basement, in his underwear, eating suger puff sandwiches and referring to a sprite as his girlfriend.

    All hail Dave the Deity.

    You think he's wearing underwear?
    I'm guessing that sarcasm, irony and satire are a tad above his comprehension. I notice that immediately he resorts to attacking my faith whilst ignoring the scenario I presented.

    Oh and Davey boy, just for the record. It was your ancestry that allowed for the crucifixion and resurrection when you turned him over to Pilate. Without that the Scriptures would not have been fulfilled, the Covenant established and my place with God secured.

    Thanks for that.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    edited August 9

    Enut said:

    Wow.

    Meanwhile in the real world Dave is still to realise that his whole world is merely a CGI generated experience and he is in fact in a basement, in his underwear, eating suger puff sandwiches and referring to a sprite as his girlfriend.

    All hail Dave the Deity.

    You think he's wearing underwear?
    I'm guessing that sarcasm, irony and satire are a tad above his comprehension. I notice that immediately he resorts to attacking my faith whilst ignoring the scenario I presented.

    Oh and Davey boy, just for the record. It was your ancestry that allowed for the crucifixion and resurrection when you turned him over to Pilate. Without that the Scriptures would not have been fulfilled, the Covenant established and my place with God secured.

    Thanks for that.
    Well yeah I am not the best at getting sarcasm and the likes but I also dont think it would be clear to many people that your attempting satire and irony what exactly was your point in that post then?

    anyway I am not sure of this will take more then one attempt science city won the race to coluses and observatory I took the aztecs out, but I am finding the happiness is a real challenge on this one I really need to get to theory of gravity and monthiesm so I can make sure I get newtons colledge and bachs cathederal otherwise this is a dud. planing to spam caravans to get me past the line.

    I think my science city Veii argubally could be built pretty much where Ravena is but there is no way to get both whale tiles and have a port there. And I hate wasting whale tiles like that.

    still wonder if going for both whales the coal and the bison with the river tiles would have been a better move?


  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    i meant michs chappel i always get those two wonders mixed up when referring to them dunno why. anyway i messed up pretty sure this playthrough is a dudd.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,662
    edited August 9
    I have played Civ 2 hundreds of times. Got Civ 5 and never finished a single game. Just didn't enjoy it. Same is true for God mode on Civ 2-I usually play 2 levels below.

    On a lighter note, another game I have played for many, many years is the original X-Com. Not saying I've been playing it for yonks, but my 1st version was on a Commodore Amiga ;)

    When first played it on an X-box, was surprised that it seemed easier. Turns out there was a glitch on the Amiga version. Didn't matter of you selected "easy" "hard" or whatever. It automatically replaced that with "God" level of difficulty without telling you :)

    PS. Most important thing at start of Civ 2 is starting with an extra Settler.

  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    Essexphil said:

    I have played Civ 2 hundreds of times. Got Civ 5 and never finished a single game. Just didn't enjoy it. Same is true for God mode on Civ 2-I usually play 2 levels below.

    On a lighter note, another game I have played for many, many years is the original X-Com. Not saying I've been playing it for yonks, but my 1st version was on a Commodore Amiga ;)

    When first played it on an X-box, was surprised that it seemed easier. Turns out there was a glitch on the Amiga version. Didn't matter of you selected "easy" "hard" or whatever. It automatically replaced that with "God" level of difficulty without telling you :)

    PS. Most important thing at start of Civ 2 is starting with an extra Settler.

    PPS. Suggest you remove a few words in your last but one post. I'd always assumed that was the case, but you know how "judgy" some people can be.

    Im not giving up on deity I will just make another attempt that start was deceptive it looks very good at first glance been able to choose between a city of gold fish and a whale for science city or one with two whales buffalo thingy and coal both seem like strong candidates. But then where I went with does not have the growth potential it needs and the alternate location would not allow a port for the whale tiles if you wanted both and had too much dessert. In both spots this is fixable with engineers (desert tiles anyway port not fixable) but the time to get to engineers and to change the terrain is to costly on the highest difficulty levels.

    I think I also got too caught out initially on deity with the happiness penalty It seems much worse then emperor. The second settler is definitely key but so is starting with ceremonial burial (i started with both of these) and getting monarchy quickly. I would normally switch to republic quickly but I think on deity to mitigate unhappiness I would need to stay in Monarchy until I build michs chappel so I can help with that to some extent with troops and then switch to democracy once I have michs chappel.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    so on the reload for attempt 3 I had to break basic strat rules for the start which states that you use your second settler to build the sci city very close to your first city on seeing what the Japanese had who were near me it was clear this is where science city had to go. I had to hope to get an army from huts and destroy not take their capital so my sci city could go there. When I said I need to destroy the Japense city not take it my girlfriend decided this was an opportunity to play burn baby burn.



    note yes I did reveal map to show the pic but thats not saved or giving me an advantage so doesnt count as cheating.


  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    anyway Japanese wiped out and a city built in a location which I think would be very difficult to ever find better. Need other things to be right to but hopefully this is the playthrough that does it as I am not sure I will ever see a better place for science city. Note yes I did rename the city.
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,423
    Conversely, some of you guys could( put your underpants on) leave your basement/study/bedroom and take a walk in this beautiful( relatively safe) place we all live in?
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,423
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,423
    Right guys, I'm orf to kayak across to play tennis later, whilst cook prepares dinner SO

    GOOD LUCK in the SPT sats starting tonight guys!
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    madprof said:


    dunno where that is but not sure it is near me. Anyway my girlfriend has a condition which flares up really badly in heat and humidity it wouldnt seem right to go out and leave her by herself but going out and playing games are nut mutually exclusive I mean it would seem silly to take the laptop to the lake to play but I can have times where I go out and times where I stay in etc.

    Anyway deity run not sure if will succeed or not but currently leading this is very odd

  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,052
    what is odd is the year that I am still not in the industrial era yet which is ridicolous for the year and somehow this is still leading on diety????????

    I have been slowed down a lot by war and unhappiness.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,649
    Doubleme said:

    madprof said:


    dunno where that is but not sure it is near me. Anyway my girlfriend has a condition which flares up really badly in heat and humidity it wouldnt seem right to go out and leave her by herself but going out and playing games are nut mutually exclusive I mean it would seem silly to take the laptop to the lake to play but I can have times where I go out and times where I stay in etc.

    Anyway deity run not sure if will succeed or not but currently leading this is very odd

    If you run an extra fan on your computer then your CGI sprite girlfriend should be fine.

    For Gods sake Dave live a little before it's too late. Get out and experience something other than mundane anxiety.

    Tell you what let's arrange a meet up and I'll take you night hiking, wild swimming, kayaking or SUPing. We can go sport climbing, bouldering, airsofting, or how about we hire a couple of mountain bikes and crack the Marin trail. Zip wiring, caving, scuba or even tombstoning. Cmon buddy call it.

    Or you tell me your ultimate adrenalin rush and we just do it, trust me I'm game for anything, but in the name of all that's life, do something.

    Seriously it's a genuine offer. And no mention of religion at all, on my word.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,579
    Idk about civ 2 but i would be amazed if you could beat diety on civ 6 on anything other than domination.
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