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Kemi Badenoch’s first approval ratings as Tory leader worse than Sunak and Johnson

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    There are a whole host of factors at play here.

    If this goes to a Member vote, Cleverly is 2nd favourite by a wide margin. So-what do the Bookies know that we don't?

    Cleverly is mid-50s. The other 2 are early 40s-plenty of time for either to be the next leader but 1.

    Both of them need Cleverly were they to win. Got to have the leader of the other wing in. Whereas Cleverly would only need Jenrick or Badenoch. And if the winner was 1 of the other 2, might not need the other.

    Jenrick and Badenoch have more to lose than Cleverly. Coming 3rd, or being the less favoured under Cleverly, might mean the end of their political careers.

    I think if 1 of them is going to be a clear 3rd, it is even money they support Cleverly. And I think the bookies think exactly the same.

    I understand, but the MPs will decide who comes third out of Jenrick, and Badenoch.
    They will probably be able to determine this before the vote takes place, unless it is going to be extremely close.
    If it was obvious do you think that the one that is destined to finished third might drop out, to save face?
    Just dropping out would not impact the odds. And, unless I am missing something, Cleverly is 6/1 to win the Members vote. Not 6/4.

    Which makes me believe that there is a very real chance that a "unity" candidate emerges, and no Member vote takes place. And the easiest way for that to happen is for Cleverly to offer jobs in the Shadow Cabinet to 1 or both the other 2.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Althiough it is hard to imagine that Jenrick, and Badenoch, would both give up as they are apparently both more popular with the Tory members than Cleverly.
    So you would have to assume that whichever one of them gets to the final two will win.
    Although the odds suggest that it doesnt get to the Tory members.
    If Labour had got off to a good start, you might think that either or both of them might conclude that they might benefit from being the next leader but one, as they are both younger candidates.
    That is not the case, and the Budget is unlikely to improve Labours popularity.
    The odds are confusing, but the Bookies rarely get it wrong.
    I agree that it seems unlikely that both would give up. Which is why I am wondering if 1 might be enough.

    Labour haven't got off to a good start-but nothing to suggest that an Election is due before 2029.

    As we both say, odds are illogical unless there are extra factors at play. Which, in its way, is more interesting than the Tory leadership election itself.
    True.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    There are a whole host of factors at play here.

    If this goes to a Member vote, Cleverly is 2nd favourite by a wide margin. So-what do the Bookies know that we don't?

    Cleverly is mid-50s. The other 2 are early 40s-plenty of time for either to be the next leader but 1.

    Both of them need Cleverly were they to win. Got to have the leader of the other wing in. Whereas Cleverly would only need Jenrick or Badenoch. And if the winner was 1 of the other 2, might not need the other.

    Jenrick and Badenoch have more to lose than Cleverly. Coming 3rd, or being the less favoured under Cleverly, might mean the end of their political careers.

    I think if 1 of them is going to be a clear 3rd, it is even money they support Cleverly. And I think the bookies think exactly the same.

    I understand, but the MPs will decide who comes third out of Jenrick, and Badenoch.
    They will probably be able to determine this before the vote takes place, unless it is going to be extremely close.
    If it was obvious do you think that the one that is destined to finished third might drop out, to save face?
    Just dropping out would not impact the odds. And, unless I am missing something, Cleverly is 6/1 to win the Members vote. Not 6/4.

    Which makes me believe that there is a very real chance that a "unity" candidate emerges, and no Member vote takes place. And the easiest way for that to happen is for Cleverly to offer jobs in the Shadow Cabinet to 1 or both the other 2.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Althiough it is hard to imagine that Jenrick, and Badenoch, would both give up as they are apparently both more popular with the Tory members than Cleverly.
    So you would have to assume that whichever one of them gets to the final two will win.
    Although the odds suggest that it doesnt get to the Tory members.
    If Labour had got off to a good start, you might think that either or both of them might conclude that they might benefit from being the next leader but one, as they are both younger candidates.
    That is not the case, and the Budget is unlikely to improve Labours popularity.
    The odds are confusing, but the Bookies rarely get it wrong.
    I agree that it seems unlikely that both would give up. Which is why I am wondering if 1 might be enough.

    Labour haven't got off to a good start-but nothing to suggest that an Election is due before 2029.

    As we both say, odds are illogical unless there are extra factors at play. Which, in its way, is more interesting than the Tory leadership election itself.
    If one gave up surely the other one wins?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    There are a whole host of factors at play here.

    If this goes to a Member vote, Cleverly is 2nd favourite by a wide margin. So-what do the Bookies know that we don't?

    Cleverly is mid-50s. The other 2 are early 40s-plenty of time for either to be the next leader but 1.

    Both of them need Cleverly were they to win. Got to have the leader of the other wing in. Whereas Cleverly would only need Jenrick or Badenoch. And if the winner was 1 of the other 2, might not need the other.

    Jenrick and Badenoch have more to lose than Cleverly. Coming 3rd, or being the less favoured under Cleverly, might mean the end of their political careers.

    I think if 1 of them is going to be a clear 3rd, it is even money they support Cleverly. And I think the bookies think exactly the same.

    I understand, but the MPs will decide who comes third out of Jenrick, and Badenoch.
    They will probably be able to determine this before the vote takes place, unless it is going to be extremely close.
    If it was obvious do you think that the one that is destined to finished third might drop out, to save face?
    Just dropping out would not impact the odds. And, unless I am missing something, Cleverly is 6/1 to win the Members vote. Not 6/4.

    Which makes me believe that there is a very real chance that a "unity" candidate emerges, and no Member vote takes place. And the easiest way for that to happen is for Cleverly to offer jobs in the Shadow Cabinet to 1 or both the other 2.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Althiough it is hard to imagine that Jenrick, and Badenoch, would both give up as they are apparently both more popular with the Tory members than Cleverly.
    So you would have to assume that whichever one of them gets to the final two will win.
    Although the odds suggest that it doesnt get to the Tory members.
    If Labour had got off to a good start, you might think that either or both of them might conclude that they might benefit from being the next leader but one, as they are both younger candidates.
    That is not the case, and the Budget is unlikely to improve Labours popularity.
    The odds are confusing, but the Bookies rarely get it wrong.
    I agree that it seems unlikely that both would give up. Which is why I am wondering if 1 might be enough.

    Labour haven't got off to a good start-but nothing to suggest that an Election is due before 2029.

    As we both say, odds are illogical unless there are extra factors at play. Which, in its way, is more interesting than the Tory leadership election itself.
    If one gave up surely the other one wins?
    Not necessarily.

    Suppose it is 50 Cleverly, 35 Jenrick and 30 Badenoch.

    Then Cleverly and Badenoch announce unity ticket, point out that it is 80-35, no need for Members, cos clear Majority.

    Badenoch Shadow Home Secretary. Jenrick Shadow Milk Monitor.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    There are a whole host of factors at play here.

    If this goes to a Member vote, Cleverly is 2nd favourite by a wide margin. So-what do the Bookies know that we don't?

    Cleverly is mid-50s. The other 2 are early 40s-plenty of time for either to be the next leader but 1.

    Both of them need Cleverly were they to win. Got to have the leader of the other wing in. Whereas Cleverly would only need Jenrick or Badenoch. And if the winner was 1 of the other 2, might not need the other.

    Jenrick and Badenoch have more to lose than Cleverly. Coming 3rd, or being the less favoured under Cleverly, might mean the end of their political careers.

    I think if 1 of them is going to be a clear 3rd, it is even money they support Cleverly. And I think the bookies think exactly the same.

    I understand, but the MPs will decide who comes third out of Jenrick, and Badenoch.
    They will probably be able to determine this before the vote takes place, unless it is going to be extremely close.
    If it was obvious do you think that the one that is destined to finished third might drop out, to save face?
    Just dropping out would not impact the odds. And, unless I am missing something, Cleverly is 6/1 to win the Members vote. Not 6/4.

    Which makes me believe that there is a very real chance that a "unity" candidate emerges, and no Member vote takes place. And the easiest way for that to happen is for Cleverly to offer jobs in the Shadow Cabinet to 1 or both the other 2.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Althiough it is hard to imagine that Jenrick, and Badenoch, would both give up as they are apparently both more popular with the Tory members than Cleverly.
    So you would have to assume that whichever one of them gets to the final two will win.
    Although the odds suggest that it doesnt get to the Tory members.
    If Labour had got off to a good start, you might think that either or both of them might conclude that they might benefit from being the next leader but one, as they are both younger candidates.
    That is not the case, and the Budget is unlikely to improve Labours popularity.
    The odds are confusing, but the Bookies rarely get it wrong.
    I agree that it seems unlikely that both would give up. Which is why I am wondering if 1 might be enough.

    Labour haven't got off to a good start-but nothing to suggest that an Election is due before 2029.

    As we both say, odds are illogical unless there are extra factors at play. Which, in its way, is more interesting than the Tory leadership election itself.
    If one gave up surely the other one wins?
    Not necessarily.

    Suppose it is 50 Cleverly, 35 Jenrick and 30 Badenoch.

    Then Cleverly and Badenoch announce unity ticket, point out that it is 80-35, no need for Members, cos clear Majority.

    Badenoch Shadow Home Secretary. Jenrick Shadow Milk Monitor.
    That would mean Cleverly, and Jenrick in the final two.
    Jenrick wins.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    There are a whole host of factors at play here.

    If this goes to a Member vote, Cleverly is 2nd favourite by a wide margin. So-what do the Bookies know that we don't?

    Cleverly is mid-50s. The other 2 are early 40s-plenty of time for either to be the next leader but 1.

    Both of them need Cleverly were they to win. Got to have the leader of the other wing in. Whereas Cleverly would only need Jenrick or Badenoch. And if the winner was 1 of the other 2, might not need the other.

    Jenrick and Badenoch have more to lose than Cleverly. Coming 3rd, or being the less favoured under Cleverly, might mean the end of their political careers.

    I think if 1 of them is going to be a clear 3rd, it is even money they support Cleverly. And I think the bookies think exactly the same.

    I understand, but the MPs will decide who comes third out of Jenrick, and Badenoch.
    They will probably be able to determine this before the vote takes place, unless it is going to be extremely close.
    If it was obvious do you think that the one that is destined to finished third might drop out, to save face?
    Just dropping out would not impact the odds. And, unless I am missing something, Cleverly is 6/1 to win the Members vote. Not 6/4.

    Which makes me believe that there is a very real chance that a "unity" candidate emerges, and no Member vote takes place. And the easiest way for that to happen is for Cleverly to offer jobs in the Shadow Cabinet to 1 or both the other 2.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Althiough it is hard to imagine that Jenrick, and Badenoch, would both give up as they are apparently both more popular with the Tory members than Cleverly.
    So you would have to assume that whichever one of them gets to the final two will win.
    Although the odds suggest that it doesnt get to the Tory members.
    If Labour had got off to a good start, you might think that either or both of them might conclude that they might benefit from being the next leader but one, as they are both younger candidates.
    That is not the case, and the Budget is unlikely to improve Labours popularity.
    The odds are confusing, but the Bookies rarely get it wrong.
    I agree that it seems unlikely that both would give up. Which is why I am wondering if 1 might be enough.

    Labour haven't got off to a good start-but nothing to suggest that an Election is due before 2029.

    As we both say, odds are illogical unless there are extra factors at play. Which, in its way, is more interesting than the Tory leadership election itself.
    If one gave up surely the other one wins?
    Not necessarily.

    Suppose it is 50 Cleverly, 35 Jenrick and 30 Badenoch.

    Then Cleverly and Badenoch announce unity ticket, point out that it is 80-35, no need for Members, cos clear Majority.

    Badenoch Shadow Home Secretary. Jenrick Shadow Milk Monitor.
    Do you think the bookies would shorten up Cleverly because he is just about guaranteed to be in the final two?
    On your scenario above Cleverly looks certain to get around 50 votes which gets him in the final two.
    In the last vote Jenrick got 33, and Badenoch 28.
    If that remained the case going into the vote with 3 left, would the Jenrick team be looking to convert some of the Badenoch voters in order for them to be on the right side, with the promise of good jobs.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    There are a whole host of factors at play here.

    If this goes to a Member vote, Cleverly is 2nd favourite by a wide margin. So-what do the Bookies know that we don't?

    Cleverly is mid-50s. The other 2 are early 40s-plenty of time for either to be the next leader but 1.

    Both of them need Cleverly were they to win. Got to have the leader of the other wing in. Whereas Cleverly would only need Jenrick or Badenoch. And if the winner was 1 of the other 2, might not need the other.

    Jenrick and Badenoch have more to lose than Cleverly. Coming 3rd, or being the less favoured under Cleverly, might mean the end of their political careers.

    I think if 1 of them is going to be a clear 3rd, it is even money they support Cleverly. And I think the bookies think exactly the same.

    I understand, but the MPs will decide who comes third out of Jenrick, and Badenoch.
    They will probably be able to determine this before the vote takes place, unless it is going to be extremely close.
    If it was obvious do you think that the one that is destined to finished third might drop out, to save face?
    Just dropping out would not impact the odds. And, unless I am missing something, Cleverly is 6/1 to win the Members vote. Not 6/4.

    Which makes me believe that there is a very real chance that a "unity" candidate emerges, and no Member vote takes place. And the easiest way for that to happen is for Cleverly to offer jobs in the Shadow Cabinet to 1 or both the other 2.
    We will have to wait and see.
    Althiough it is hard to imagine that Jenrick, and Badenoch, would both give up as they are apparently both more popular with the Tory members than Cleverly.
    So you would have to assume that whichever one of them gets to the final two will win.
    Although the odds suggest that it doesnt get to the Tory members.
    If Labour had got off to a good start, you might think that either or both of them might conclude that they might benefit from being the next leader but one, as they are both younger candidates.
    That is not the case, and the Budget is unlikely to improve Labours popularity.
    The odds are confusing, but the Bookies rarely get it wrong.
    I agree that it seems unlikely that both would give up. Which is why I am wondering if 1 might be enough.

    Labour haven't got off to a good start-but nothing to suggest that an Election is due before 2029.

    As we both say, odds are illogical unless there are extra factors at play. Which, in its way, is more interesting than the Tory leadership election itself.
    Yes, I was just making the point that going into the general election, and straight after, many pundits were making the point that the Tories were facing such a massacre it would be impossible to turn it around in 2029.
    Although considering the start that Labour have had, that would already seem less of an uphill struggle.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,209

    @HAYSIE @Essexphil

    All change.....

    LATEST BETTING;


    Cleverly 11/10

    Badenoch 15/8

    Jenrick 3/1


    (Tugendhat no longer quoted)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE @Essexphil

    All change.....


    LATEST BETTING;


    Cleverly 11/10

    Badenoch 15/8

    Jenrick 3/1


    (Tugendhat no longer quoted)
    Weird.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    edited October 8
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE @Essexphil

    All change.....


    LATEST BETTING;


    Cleverly 11/10

    Badenoch 15/8

    Jenrick 3/1


    (Tugendhat no longer quoted)
    Cleverly ahead in Tory race, as Tugendhat voted out




    James Cleverly leapt into the lead with 39 votes, jumping from third place at the last vote, after what was seen as a strong performance at last week's Conservative Party conference.

    Former immigration minister Robert Jenrick came in second with 31 votes - losing two votes on last time. Kemi Badenoch came a close third with 30 votes - up two from the last round. Tugendhat received 20 votes.



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd7x04vnng1o
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Tikay10 said:


    @HAYSIE @Essexphil

    All change.....


    LATEST BETTING;


    Cleverly 11/10

    Badenoch 15/8

    Jenrick 3/1


    (Tugendhat no longer quoted)
    Is Cleverly just the shortest because he is guaranteed to be in the final two?
    Badenoch, and Jenrick cant both make it.
    So will the one that makes it go odds on when we reach the final two?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 171,209
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    edited October 9
    Most interesting bit in that article was the prediction that Members would vote for Cleverly over Jenrick.

    Normally, I would say no chance. When in doubt, they would normally go for whoever is furthest to the Right.

    But there is going to be a lot of pressure put on those Members. Last time in this position, they went for the hapless Right winger that was Truss. Jenrick is 42. He has never held any of the great offices of state. And everything about him suggests he is a lot worse at walking the walk than talking the talk.

    I think the Members are going to be threatened with the loss of their voting rights should they not vote for Cleverly if he wins the MP vote by a wide margin, particularly if the majority (60/61) endorse him.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    Most interesting bit in that article was the prediction that Members would vote for Cleverly over Jenrick.

    Normally, I would say no chance. When in doubt, they would normally go for whoever is furthest to the Right.

    But there is going to be a lot of pressure put on those Members. Last time in this position, they went for the hapless Right winger that was Truss. Jenrick is 42. He has never held any of the great offices of state. And everything about him suggests he is a lot worse at walking the walk than talking the talk.

    I think the Members are going to be threatened with the loss of their voting rights should they not vote for Cleverly if he wins the MP vote by a wide margin, particularly if the majority (60/61) endorse him.

    Does that mean that it may be possible for the Badenoch team to get Jenrick to drop out.
    If that was the case then there is no Cleverly majority, and Badenoch wins amongst the members.
    Jenrick staying in and beating Badenoch in the next vote, would seem to only help Cleverly.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Most interesting bit in that article was the prediction that Members would vote for Cleverly over Jenrick.

    Normally, I would say no chance. When in doubt, they would normally go for whoever is furthest to the Right.

    But there is going to be a lot of pressure put on those Members. Last time in this position, they went for the hapless Right winger that was Truss. Jenrick is 42. He has never held any of the great offices of state. And everything about him suggests he is a lot worse at walking the walk than talking the talk.

    I think the Members are going to be threatened with the loss of their voting rights should they not vote for Cleverly if he wins the MP vote by a wide margin, particularly if the majority (60/61) endorse him.

    Does that mean that it may be possible for the Badenoch team to get Jenrick to drop out.
    If that was the case then there is no Cleverly majority, and Badenoch wins amongst the members.
    Jenrick staying in and beating Badenoch in the next vote, would seem to only help Cleverly.
    That's not the way politics normally works.

    Your starting point is that any politician places their policies above their personal ambitions. It doesn't work like that.

    It is much more akin to Formula 1. Where drivers pretend they want their team-mate to do well. Whereas, in reality, they would rather absolutely anyone else won. Because they can come up with all sorts of reasons why, say, a Mercedes driver loses to a Red Bull driver. But not their own team-mate.

    If either Badenoch or Jenrick are not the next leader, then they would want it to be Cleverly. Because they would then be far more likely to be next but one leader.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Most interesting bit in that article was the prediction that Members would vote for Cleverly over Jenrick.

    Normally, I would say no chance. When in doubt, they would normally go for whoever is furthest to the Right.

    But there is going to be a lot of pressure put on those Members. Last time in this position, they went for the hapless Right winger that was Truss. Jenrick is 42. He has never held any of the great offices of state. And everything about him suggests he is a lot worse at walking the walk than talking the talk.

    I think the Members are going to be threatened with the loss of their voting rights should they not vote for Cleverly if he wins the MP vote by a wide margin, particularly if the majority (60/61) endorse him.

    Does that mean that it may be possible for the Badenoch team to get Jenrick to drop out.
    If that was the case then there is no Cleverly majority, and Badenoch wins amongst the members.
    Jenrick staying in and beating Badenoch in the next vote, would seem to only help Cleverly.
    That's not the way politics normally works.

    Your starting point is that any politician places their policies above their personal ambitions. It doesn't work like that.

    It is much more akin to Formula 1. Where drivers pretend they want their team-mate to do well. Whereas, in reality, they would rather absolutely anyone else won. Because they can come up with all sorts of reasons why, say, a Mercedes driver loses to a Red Bull driver. But not their own team-mate.

    If either Badenoch or Jenrick are not the next leader, then they would want it to be Cleverly. Because they would then be far more likely to be next but one leader.
    If the next leader is not Badenoch, or Jenrick, it can only be Cleverly.
    If the Tories win the next election, the next but one leader may be a long way off.

    Assuming that the candidates popularity amongst members is Badenoch, Cleverly, Jenrick.
    Then would the MPs on the right would prefer Jenrick to drop out, or maybe less obviously encourage some of the MPs that support him to switch to Badenoch.
    It would seem that the only thing that the MPs on the right have to do is to ensure that Badenoch beats Jenrick in todays vote, in order to get their preferred choice of leader.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    edited October 9
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Most interesting bit in that article was the prediction that Members would vote for Cleverly over Jenrick.

    Normally, I would say no chance. When in doubt, they would normally go for whoever is furthest to the Right.

    But there is going to be a lot of pressure put on those Members. Last time in this position, they went for the hapless Right winger that was Truss. Jenrick is 42. He has never held any of the great offices of state. And everything about him suggests he is a lot worse at walking the walk than talking the talk.

    I think the Members are going to be threatened with the loss of their voting rights should they not vote for Cleverly if he wins the MP vote by a wide margin, particularly if the majority (60/61) endorse him.

    Does that mean that it may be possible for the Badenoch team to get Jenrick to drop out.
    If that was the case then there is no Cleverly majority, and Badenoch wins amongst the members.
    Jenrick staying in and beating Badenoch in the next vote, would seem to only help Cleverly.
    That's not the way politics normally works.

    Your starting point is that any politician places their policies above their personal ambitions. It doesn't work like that.

    It is much more akin to Formula 1. Where drivers pretend they want their team-mate to do well. Whereas, in reality, they would rather absolutely anyone else won. Because they can come up with all sorts of reasons why, say, a Mercedes driver loses to a Red Bull driver. But not their own team-mate.

    If either Badenoch or Jenrick are not the next leader, then they would want it to be Cleverly. Because they would then be far more likely to be next but one leader.
    Robert Jenrick and Kemi Badenoch locked in a bitter leadership battle





    Mr Cleverly – who last night attended the launch of Boris Johnson's book Unleashed in London with his wife Susannah – paid tribute to his 'close friend' Mr Jenrick, saying that he would 'have a big role to play in our ­party's future'.

    But allies rejected claims Mr Cleverly could now lend support to him to avoid a showdown with Mrs Badenoch, who polls suggest is popular among Tory activists.

    'The Right of the party needs to coalesce around Kemi, who has the star quality to cut through in opposition and is indisputably the members' choice for leader.'

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/robert-jenrick-and-kemi-badenoch-locked-in-a-bitter-leadership-battle/ar-AA1rUZpZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=db438fe490c94501ab651a30026cc115&ei=97#fullscreen
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,467
    Nigel Farage predicts Tory 'establishment' will try anything to stop one candidate winning



    Nigel Farage has suggested the Conservative "establishment" will try to stop Robert Jenrick from making the final two of the Tory leadership contest because of his support for leaving the European Convention on Human Rights.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/nigel-farage-predicts-tory-establishment-will-try-anything-to-stop-one-candidate-winning/ar-AA1rWHBy?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=db438fe490c94501ab651a30026cc115&ei=121#fullscreen
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