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New testimony claims to reveal the moments that led to death of Gaza doctor

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 199
    The world 🌎 🌍 is going wrong and he’s a horrible man along with his government
    After what he’s done there will be no peace
    They could have hunted Hamas without civilian casualties by moving them to Israel
    Hamas could not have got in or they would’ve got caught as they know who they are
    All these women and children could have been safe that way they children don’t hate you
    and just maybe peace would get a chance to
    At least that way it’s only Hamas left
    They definitely need sorting after there atrocities
    A just maintain they should have done it without the causality count
    They could have!! No doubt .. they proved that with the communication pagers etc
    But they’ve crossed the line with using bunker busters in civilian areas yet again
    They’re right to get these folk but doing it the wrong way will not bring peace for Israel

    Just making it worse now !!

    Sad Just Sad
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    Along that line, I have to say that whether or not an organisation is, or is not, a "terrorist organisation" must be primarily the decision of the country where people reside.

    So-for example-if members of certain organisations are carrying out activities in the UK, then that is for us to decide.

    But it is not simply the case that 1 country is entitled to carry out raids in another country just because of that first country's proclamations.

    To put this into context, there are several countries in the World that believe that the UK carries out terrorist activities. Hands up who would be comfortable with Russia, or Libya, or whoever blowing up the House of Commons or Buck House because of their opinions?

    The World cannot be seen to tolerate any country that feels entitled to ignore International Law and carry out atrocities in other Countries.

    Whatever their religion.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,458
    Essexphil said:

    Along that line, I have to say that whether or not an organisation is, or is not, a "terrorist organisation" must be primarily the decision of the country where people reside.

    So-for example-if members of certain organisations are carrying out activities in the UK, then that is for us to decide.

    But it is not simply the case that 1 country is entitled to carry out raids in another country just because of that first country's proclamations.

    To put this into context, there are several countries in the World that believe that the UK carries out terrorist activities. Hands up who would be comfortable with Russia, or Libya, or whoever blowing up the House of Commons or Buck House because of their opinions?

    The World cannot be seen to tolerate any country that feels entitled to ignore International Law and carry out atrocities in other Countries.

    Whatever their religion.

    There isn't a "hands up" emoji B)
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,458
    The US said they had no prior knowledge.

    The US Air Force's AWACS aircrafts, which operated off the Lebanese coast during Israeli airstrikes on Hezbollah HQs, are not operating today.

    Why ? Because they never operate in this area, except yesterday between 17h30 to 19h30 local time.

    Israel targeted Nasrallah at 18h30.





  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
    Key developments amid fears of Israeli ground offensive in Lebanon
    Israeli tanks have gathered at the country's border with Lebanon as fears of an all-out war in the Middle East intensify.



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/israel-lebanon-war-hezbollah-gaza-latest-news-093651088.html
  • legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 199
    Just the mess it’s always been since 48 ..
    needs equals to work no one thinking they’re better than other
    Both the same that way

    But yeah Hamas kidnappers should face trial for there’s horrific crimes on 7th oct
    So should Israeli government for there actions since
    Far far too many innocents dead
    death toll could have been avoided

    Very sad

    They hostages !!! Do you think that government care ? A don’t think they do myself
    That Netanyahu twisted horrible wee man and his government cronies appear not to give a hoot about them
    Poor relatives !!!






  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,461
    Watched a " State of Rage " on channel 4 last night, after watchin it you can see why there will never be peace in the middle east, shocking watch.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,871
    This is gonna get bad :'(
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    I expect better from The Times. Or, more accurately, I am old enough to remember when they were the best paper for impartial reporting.

    "Guerrilla forces ambush IDF troops sent into Lebanon..."

    Makes it sound as though it is Hezbollah that are the unwelcome invaders.

    Rightly or wrongly, Lebanon is perfectly happy for Hezbollah to help in its defence. Not least because Israel has a massively larger Army than Lebanon, with massively larger funding.

    Israel is fond of saying that it is "defending" its Borders. And that hostile Nations might attack.

    Whereas Israel has taken land from Palestine. From Egypt. From Gaza. From Lebanon. Invaded multiple countries. Multiple times. Fought wars with every single 1 of its neighbours.

    I have never hated Religion. I do, however, detest Religious Fundamentalists. Muslim ones. Jewish ones. Christian ones. All of them.

    The current leadership of Hamas and Hezbollah contains many Religious Fundamentalists.

    But, equally, so does the current Coalition Government of Israel.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,846
    Further to the above, worth looking at exactly which parties are in the current Coalition Govt. They are:-

    1. Likud
    2. Shas
    3. National Religious Party-Religious Zionism
    4. Utd Torah Judaism
    5. Otzma Yehudit ("Jewish Power")
    6. Noam
    7. New Hope

    1 and 7 are regular, Right-Wing Parties. Conservatives, if you will.
    2-6? All make our Reform Party look Left Wing. Some make the National Front look Left Wing. Religious extremists. Jewish Supremacists.

    And Netanyahu cannot govern without their support.

    Look up these Parties. I did. And they frighten me every bit as much as Hezbollah.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,463
    Essexphil said:

    Further to the above, worth looking at exactly which parties are in the current Coalition Govt. They are:-

    1. Likud
    2. Shas
    3. National Religious Party-Religious Zionism
    4. Utd Torah Judaism
    5. Otzma Yehudit ("Jewish Power")
    6. Noam
    7. New Hope

    1 and 7 are regular, Right-Wing Parties. Conservatives, if you will.
    2-6? All make our Reform Party look Left Wing. Some make the National Front look Left Wing. Religious extremists. Jewish Supremacists.

    And Netanyahu cannot govern without their support.

    Look up these Parties. I did. And they frighten me every bit as much as Hezbollah.

    Did you watch State of Rage?
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