Live by the River Die by the River

KKarlos93

I am sick of all these players moaning in the chat box about bad beats on the river, we all suck out on the river somtimes and somtimes we lose on the river

Its not a bad beat all the time its just odds and math, S**T happens to all poker players, be it by the poker gods, karma or what goes around comes around

dav1964

Well i just went out of the ORFORDABLE in 7th place by the darn river card,but hey thats poker innit man.dav

KKarlos93

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Well i just went out of the ORFORDABLE in 7th place by the darn river card,but hey thats poker innit man.dav
Posted by dav1964

Yep thats just the way poker is somtimes, next time could be you hitting the river and going on to win the touney

GREGHOGG

In Response to Live by the River Die by the River:

I am sick of all these players moaning in the chat box about bad beats on the river, we all suck out on the river somtimes and somtimes we lose on the river Its not a bad beat all the time its just odds and math, S**T happens to all poker players, be it by the poker gods, karma or what goes around comes around
Posted by KKarlos93

true, i agree

refreshing post

Tikay10

II LLove Kkarlos.

Ttrue.

IRISHROVER

 its the turn card i think is fixed on here lol !

MereNovice

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 its the turn card i think is fixed on here lol !
Posted by IRISHROVER

The "turn" card is fixed on all televised poker tournaments - it's written into the contracts.
It has to give the underdog as many outs as possible on the river to keep the suspense high which makes for good television viewing.

:-)))

KKarlos93

Irishrover and MereNovice dont be daft, all poker sites have to pass loads of tests to get there licence, it is compleately random, not fixed or a scam, maybe look at your own games instead of pointing the blame at the site your playing on, 

Tikay your a legend, i am sure i can beat you at omaha though

POKERTREV

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Irishrover and MereNovice dont be daft, all poker sites have to pass loads of tests to get there licence, it is compleately random, not fixed or a scam, maybe look at your own games instead of pointing the blame at the site your playing on,  Tikay your a legend, i am sure i can beat you at omaha though
Posted by KKarlos93

Karlos!!!! Have you no idea what is going on in online poker? Mere and Irish are the two most experienced online poker players I know! and if they tell me that it is the turn that is fixed then I believe em!!!

Mnd you, after watching Merenovice triumph last night, I think the flop the river and the turn is fixed lol - What a Luckbox Initt!!!! 

luvBWFC

Here's me loving the river

Hand History #249199162 (20:48 08/04/2010)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Tricky88	Small blind		100.00	100.00	6325.00
eatmyset	Big blind		200.00	300.00	2090.00
	Your hole cards	8 8
__PK__	Fold
luvBWFC	Raise		600.00	900.00	3792.50
daveyb147	Fold
Tricky88	Call		500.00	1400.00	5825.00
eatmyset	Fold
Flop
		A Q 10
Tricky88	Check
luvBWFC	Bet		750.00	2150.00	3042.50
Tricky88	Call		750.00	2900.00	5075.00
Turn
		10
Tricky88	Check
luvBWFC	Check
River
		8
Tricky88	Bet		1450.00	4350.00	3625.00
luvBWFC	All-in		3042.50	7392.50	0.00
Tricky88	Call		1592.50	8985.00	2032.50
Tricky88	Show	10 K
luvBWFC	Show	8 8
luvBWFC	Win	Full House, 8s and 10s	8985.00		8985.00

On the bubble the same tournament, I got em all in on the flop with 2 pairs Kings & 3's (I was BB unraised, hence the K3). Flop had 2 spades on it and I got called by a player with a suited ace of spades who hit on the turn. That's just the game.

Seagull158

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Irishrover and MereNovice dont be daft, all poker sites have to pass loads of tests to get there licence, it is compleately random, not fixed or a scam, maybe look at your own games instead of pointing the blame at the site your playing on,  Tikay your a legend, i am sure i can beat you at omaha though
Posted by KKarlos93

KKarlos, Irishrover and Merenovice are totally correct!  The poker sites supposedly have to pass loads of tests but the regulators won't publish the tests so they are meaningless!! What you don't know (until now) is that Mere and Irish are part of the "turn card conspiracy". That's why they always win. Check their Sharkscope stats for proof!

MereNovice

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Irishrover and MereNovice dont be daft, all poker sites have to pass loads of tests to get there licence, it is compleately random, not fixed or a scam, maybe look at your own games instead of pointing the blame at the site your playing on,  Tikay your a legend, i am sure i can beat you at omaha though
Posted by KKarlos93

Before this thread gets out of hand I feel that I need to point out that I, like several of the posters on this thread, was "having a laugh". There are no emoticons on this site but you should assume that when I add ":-)))" at the end of a post that it is not meant to be taken seriously.

I hope that this helps to clarify matters.

Seagull158

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River : Before this thread gets out of hand I feel that I need to point out that I, like several of the posters on this thread, was "having a laugh". There are no emoticons on this site but you should assume that when I add ":-)))" at the end of a post that it is not meant to be taken seriously. I hope that this helps to clarify matters.
Posted by MereNovice

You've gone and spoilt it now.
This could have run and run.

MereNovice

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In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River : You've gone and spoilt it now. This could have run and run.
Posted by Seagull158

Sorry. :-(((

KKarlos93

Fair enough guys well at least that clears that up, no fixing going on here lol

Seagull158

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Fair enough guys well at least that clears that up, no fixing going on here lol
Posted by KKarlos93

On a serious note, totally agree with your post.

dub1

Perhaps you have wondered how predictable machines like computers can generate randomness. In reality, most random numbers used in computer programs are pseudo-random, which means they are a generated in a predictable fashion using a mathematical formula. This is fine for many purposes, but it may not be random in the way you expect if you're used to dice rolls and lottery drawings.
this can all be found by searching  randon number generaters in google.

+ there are 2types.
1 puts 52 cards in order and then deals and the other selects 1 card at random when asked to, so acting 1 second later than you did will draw a different card.


also if sky reset there RNG the same cards would be dealt as when it started in the same order

Dazler

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Perhaps you have wondered how predictable machines like computers can generate randomness. In reality, most random numbers used in computer programs are pseudo-random , which means they are a generated in a predictable fashion using a mathematical formula. This is fine for many purposes, but it may not be random in the way you expect if you're used to dice rolls and lottery drawings. this can all be found by searching  randon number generaters in google. + there are 2types. 1 puts 52 cards in order and then deals and the other selects 1 card at random when asked to, so acting 1 second later than you did will draw a different card.
Posted by dub1

yes ive looked into this and your right very interesting mmmmwwwaaa haa haaa

MereNovice

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Perhaps you have wondered how predictable machines like computers can generate randomness. In reality, most random numbers used in computer programs are pseudo-random , which means they are a generated in a predictable fashion using a mathematical formula. This is fine for many purposes, but it may not be random in the way you expect if you're used to dice rolls and lottery drawings. this can all be found by searching  randon number generaters in google. + there are 2types. 1 puts 52 cards in order and then deals and the other selects 1 card at random when asked to, so acting 1 second later than you did will draw a different card. also if sky reset there RNG the same cards would be dealt as when it started in the same order
Posted by dub1

I think that you'll find that most RNGs used for games like poker rely on totally unpredictable (or "random") external events.
They are totally random and unpredictable.
Your last statement is not based on a RNG but on a pseudo-RNG which is used for testing programs and certainly not used for games on poker sites.

TORTUS007

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River : The "turn" card is fixed on all televised poker tournaments - it's written into the contracts. It has to give the underdog as many outs as possible on the river to keep the suspense high which makes for good television viewing. :-)))
Posted by MereNovice

Also they have to try and keep up with the fixed wrestling. lol.

AyrGraeme

In Response to Re: Live by the River Die by the River:

Irishrover and MereNovice dont be daft, all poker sites have to pass loads of tests to get there licence, it is compleately random, not fixed or a scam, maybe look at your own games instead of pointing the blame at the site your playing on,  Tikay your a legend, i am sure i can beat you at omaha though
Posted by KKarlos93

Rearrange the following words to create a popular phrase.  Line, and, hook, sinker