Maybe the site is growing fast with more new players joining sky but i doubt if they are making loads more money and if they are making alot more money then why have they lowered the guaranteed prize pools but not changed the buy in thats just greedy.
In my eyes new players will join sky but then when they put their first £30 or so on and it dwindles down because of some of the points in this thread but also because they are only beginners and they are playing beginners tourneys but with a massive rake which is eating there bankroll.
Most new players will probably deposit once and then go elsewhere unless this issue is addressed only posting this to try and help sky out i love playing here and will never go elsewhere but alot of players don't feel this way and i think this issue needs to be addressed
Well, we will agree to differ then-- But do you agree that the site is a long way from reaching it's full potential in this respect?
I would also highly value your opinion on whether or not the lowering of rake on these low stakes games is worth a try?
I would love to see the site reaching it's potential Tikay, and I genuinely believe it could become the best site on the net, this is just an idea that might help increase loyalty and numbers.
I don't want to play on any other site, but I have to, so if the reasons I have to are addressed, then I, and possibly many others, won't have to, and can play solely on the site they prefer---Sky poker
Well, we will agree to differ then-- But do you agree that the site is a long way from reaching it's full potential in this respect? I would also highly value your opinion on whether or not the lowering of rake on these low stakes games is worth a try? I would love to see the site reaching it's potential Tikay, and I genuinely believe it could become the best site on the net, this is just an idea that might help increase loyalty and numbers. I don't want to play on any other site, but I have to, so if the reasons I have to are addressed, then I, and possibly many others, won't have to, and can play solely on the site they prefer---Sky poker ps--big hug Posted by oynutter
Oh yes, yes, YES, I do!
I'm tired after a long day & a 4 hour Show, so I'll reply properly tomorrow. Actually, make that later today.
But can the site be better? Yes it CAN! Fact.
Is it getting better? Yes it IS. Fact.
Is it getting better fast enough? That's the poser.
In Response to Re: idea to get players to stay with sky poker : Oh yes, yes, YES, I do! I'm tired after a long day & a 4 hour Show, so I'll reply properly tomorrow. Actually, make that later today. But can the site be better? Yes it CAN! Fact. Is it getting better? Yes it IS. Fact. Is it getting better fast enough? That's the poser. Posted by Tikay10
TK .. I have been to the coast, this week and had seagulls in hob-nailed boots dancing on the roof of the caravan at 4.30 in the morning, my dog 'Dotty' decided to join them by singing (barking) as the seagulls danced the 'hokey kokey' along the roof while squawking at the dog.... suddenly it came to me, like a vision from above................................................. why hasn't this been thought of before ?
Once a week , Skypoker could run a series of recorded studio knockout events the same as the old 'Late Night Poker' .. the show could be edited to one hour .. maybe 6 shows with the winner s of each week going through to the final ... To get the 36 players, run some MTT's say 4, where the top 9 qualify get to play in the studio games .... Of course I would expect automatic entry for the idea and tomorrow ....
I'm having spicy 'seagull pie' with spring onion rolls ....
To save Mr "Anyone" answering, I can confirm that I was at my desk in the Office at 7am this morning, as I am every day, & I finished work at around 1am last night/this morning, as I do every day.
In Response to Re: idea to get players to stay with sky poker : TK .. I have been to the coast, this week and had seagulls in hob-nailed boots dancing on the roof of the caravan at 4.30 in the morning, my dog 'Dotty' decided to join them by singing (barking) as the seagulls danced the 'hokey kokey' along the roof while squawking at the dog.... suddenly it came to me, like a vision from above................................................. why hasn't this been thought of before ? Once a week , Skypoker could run a series of recorded studio knockout events the same as the old 'Late Night Poker' .. the show could be edited to one hour .. maybe 6 shows with the winner s of each week going through to the final ... To get the 36 players, run some MTT's say 4, where the top 9 qualify get to play in the studio games .... Of course I would expect automatic entry for the idea and tomorrow .... I'm having spicy 'seagull pie' with spring onion rolls .... Posted by bennydip2
An interesting idea Benny, thank you, & a variant of it, tailored to the business focus, is already in the advanced planning stage.
If & when it progresses further, it will be quite something!
In Response to Re: idea to get players to stay with sky poker : An interesting idea Benny, thank you, & a variant of it, tailored to the business focus, is already in the advanced planning stage. If & when it progresses further, it will be quite something! We shall see. I hope. Posted by Tikay10
Ty Ty , Ya see I'm not just a pretty face, and I dont even mind if someone else gets the credit, just put a word in for me to get a seat .... )
To save Mr "Anyone" answering, I can confirm that I was at my desk in the Office at 7am this morning, as I am every day, & I finished work at around 1am last night/this morning, as I do every day. Posted by Tikay10
So you'll be off to Luton later then . back to work that is .. )
Hey guys, Thanks for your posts. This thread isn't being ignored at all. We are keeping an eye on it and are monitoring the responses. The thing is, this has been brought up before and we (in particular Sky Bernie) have addressed the issue and responded to similar ideas/threads. Having said that, all threads and customer suggestions do deserve a response so i'll send it over to the guys again. all the best to you all. Rich Posted by Sky_Rich
Hi sky Bernie ,
why not do a trial run on oynutter's idea and see does it attract more
traffic on the lower stakes.
just make it known that it will revert back to its original rake
if the trial run is not successful.
with punters being made aware of the above ,
they will defo play more games
in fear of it returning back to its original rake .
plus all new and oringinal low/micro punters
will be happy to stay and recommend skypoker.
i would appreciate a response when you have time bernie on this,
the punters at the end of the day
are the ones that will make this site grow.
i say above as a loyal skypoker player who wants this site to grow !
Nice one denis!-- we all want the site to grow, and it's hard to see why it's not reaching it's potential-- one reason I know is the download issue, you need a very good pc to multi table here
That said, I do honestly believe that reducing the low stakes rake charges would make the site a lot more attractive for beginners, and also increase the loyalty of the players that already use the site. I for one would be a lot less worried about entering big tournies if I thought I could easily rebuild my roll on the low stakes dym games, there are a lot of players that won't play low stakes cash because it's too loony, so they only have low stakes tournies to build a roll from.
I really can't see how Sky poker could possibly lose out by taking this step
If the low stakes rake was set at 9%, then sky could honestly advertise that this is the best site in the world for beginners--- Surely this would give them an edge in the market.
Sky needs more players, and more player loyalty, anything that might help to achieve this must be worth a try
It seems to me that a lot of players start with a small bankroll and try to build it up enough to go up the stakes Sky make more profit from higher stakes players and bigger tournies It is in Sky's interests to have players with a half decent bankroll Players that find it easy enough to build a bankroll, will stay on the site A large proportion of new players see double your money games as the best way to try and build a bankroll Sky charge 25p rake for a 2 quid dym, and 15p for the 1 quid game This state of affairs is IMO extremely bad for the site If the simple step was taken to significantly lower the rake at these levels, it is my belief that a lot more players would stay here and grow to become higher stakes players GOOD FOR SKY AND GOOD FOR EVERYONE---WHATCHA RECKON? Posted by oynutter
I agree totally Nutter..my only thought is,... and l dont get many of those... .. , this is the only site I know that uses the good old british £... 99% of other use either dollars or euro's..there rake in mtt's and sng's are still 10%. but the players dont think its much because it's toy money to most, if you like, and they don't realise how much it is actually costing them because of exchange rates changing etc etc. I've played on a and tried a lot of the so called ''top poker sites''..and to be honest, (I tried this site 3 weeks ago and am making a nice little profit,touch wood), I would never play another site again. I am a total ''Sky poker'' convert and owuld recommend anyone looking for a site to play poker on to start here. The poker coaching/tutorials is the best around..and the community, forums, blogs, and people I've met so far are 2nd to none. I feel comfortable and welcomed as a player and member..who really needs more in a site in which to enjoy the game.. maybe sky poker need to advertise more on TV and use actual members, from all grades to advertise the site..like they do on the sky poker channel..use that addy on sky one etc.none -the- less nutter you got my support..see you at the tables..Larry
nice post Larry-- Aye, and congrats on finding the best site on the net---As you say, nearly all of the other sites charge 10%, but sky charge 15% for the 1 quid dym, and 12.5% for the 2 quid game-- Therefore it is easier to build a roll on these other sites. I just think this issue should be addessed for the reasons above
Cheers Rich-- Thing is--I really think this site could be the best site on the net--- With the community, and with the tv coverage, and with lisa's barely coverage, this site should be growing fast-- But it isn't If Sky reduced the low stakes rake to 9%, it could then advertise that it is the best site in the world for new players Something has to be done, surely this is worth a try I think players would be far less worried about entering bigger tournies if they thought they could easily rebuild thier bankroll Personally, I find it easier to build a roll on another site, then transfer the money to sky when I want to play here I was completely loyal to sky before, and would be again if it was as easy to build a roll here as it is elsewhere I don't even like the other site, but the low stakes rake is a lot lower, so it is much easier to build a roll there and transfer it to here when I want to play a tournie or two I really think that if this issue was addressed, then every single player would benefit and in turn so would sky Loyalty is far more profitable than passing trade-----innit ! Posted by oynutter
i am fairly new to the site and to poker in general (2 months for both) and can only afford to play the micro stakes. obviously as a tyro i am having trouble keeping a bankroll, let alone building one! i agree totaly that reducing the rake at the lower levels would be a great idea, it would certainly encourage me to play more often. i love the site, the tv channel and presenters, and the great camaraderie within the poker playing community. people ask me. why i don't try some of the other sites and i answer truthfully that i wouldn't want to lose what sky poker gives me. so come on sky poker bosses, give us little people a break. even if it is a small one.
nutters idea is a good one! and we all love to play on sky..............it could be because we as players bump into each other on this forum,and this gives the whole site more of a community feel,ie knowing at least some of the guys and galls we play at the tables occasionally.but im being honest here i started online poker with sky thinking they are the big hitters and will offer a fair and good value service.this has not been my experience,almost every other site offer a better deal!we are afforded a right to reply in this forum but suggestions are largely ignored,and sky bods reply to the odd post to placate the poster or give them a ticking or whatever.this has only one result people like me wont spend with sky till they are competitive!nutter has his facts right on this one and it would be a shame for no one to act on it!so lets hope tikay and sky rich can do a bodie and doyle for us and get us an answer either way!by the way i wrote this post wearing nothing ony a pair of pink fluffy slippers i like how they feel on my toes floppin fluffy!!!
I really don't understand why the smaller games charge higher rake. A lot of new players are starting to learn the game here & in the long run surely it's better to keep them here rather than make them look elsewhere?
imo, it should be a maximum 10% rake/entrance fee (whatever you want to call it) on ALL SNG's & MTT's regardless of the buy in level.
I really don't understand why the smaller games charge higher rake. A lot of new players are starting to learn the game here & in the long run surely it's better to keep them here rather than make them look elsewhere? imo, it should be a maximum 10% rake/entrance fee (whatever you want to call it) on ALL SNG's & MTT's regardless of the buy in level. Posted by silentbob
10 percent sound very good to me bob and i would spend more with sky if this happens!but monkeys are more likely to fly out of my b u t t lol.sky need to think outside the corporate spreadsheet for this one and look at the bigger picture.............................................oh and what about the download? has anyone heard anything about its progresssssssss!
Comments
I would also highly value your opinion on whether or not the lowering of rake on these low stakes games is worth a try?
I would love to see the site reaching it's potential Tikay, and I genuinely believe it could become the best site on the net, this is just an idea that might help increase loyalty and numbers.
I don't want to play on any other site, but I have to, so if the reasons I have to are addressed, then I, and possibly many others, won't have to, and can play solely on the site they prefer---Sky poker
ps--big hug
I'm tired after a long day & a 4 hour Show, so I'll reply properly tomorrow. Actually, make that later today.
But can the site be better? Yes it CAN! Fact.
Is it getting better? Yes it IS. Fact.
Is it getting better fast enough? That's the poser.
suddenly it came to me, like a vision from above.................................................
why hasn't this been thought of before ?
Once a week , Skypoker could run a series of recorded studio knockout events the same as the old 'Late Night Poker' .. the show could be edited to one hour .. maybe 6 shows with the winner s of each week going through to the final ... To get the 36 players, run some MTT's say 4, where the top 9 qualify get to play in the studio games ....
Of course I would expect automatic entry for the idea and tomorrow ....
I'm having spicy 'seagull pie' with spring onion rolls ....
To save Mr "Anyone" answering, I can confirm that I was at my desk in the Office at 7am this morning, as I am every day, & I finished work at around 1am last night/this morning, as I do every day.
If & when it progresses further, it will be quite something!
We shall see. I hope.
just put a word in for me to get a seat ....
why not do a trial run on oynutter's idea and see does it attract more
traffic on the lower stakes.
just make it known that it will revert back to its original rake
if the trial run is not successful.
with punters being made aware of the above ,
they will defo play more games
in fear of it returning back to its original rake .
plus all new and oringinal low/micro punters
will be happy to stay and recommend skypoker.
i would appreciate a response when you have time bernie on this,
the punters at the end of the day
are the ones that will make this site grow.
i say above as a loyal skypoker player who wants this site to grow !
denis
That said, I do honestly believe that reducing the low stakes rake charges would make the site a lot more attractive for beginners, and also increase the loyalty of the players that already use the site. I for one would be a lot less worried about entering big tournies if I thought I could easily rebuild my roll on the low stakes dym games, there are a lot of players that won't play low stakes cash because it's too loony, so they only have low stakes tournies to build a roll from.
I really can't see how Sky poker could possibly lose out by taking this step
If the low stakes rake was set at 9%, then sky could honestly advertise that this is the best site in the world for beginners--- Surely this would give them an edge in the market.
Sky needs more players, and more player loyalty, anything that might help to achieve this must be worth a try
innit?
I've played on a and tried a lot of the so called ''top poker sites''..and to be honest, (I tried this site 3 weeks ago and am making a nice little profit,touch wood), I would never play another site again. I am a total ''Sky poker'' convert and owuld recommend anyone looking for a site to play poker on to start here. The poker coaching/tutorials is the best around..and the community, forums, blogs, and people I've met so far are 2nd to none. I feel comfortable and welcomed as a player and member..who really needs more in a site in which to enjoy the game.. maybe sky poker need to advertise more on TV and use actual members, from all grades to advertise the site..like they do on the sky poker channel..use that addy on sky one etc.none -the- less nutter you got my support..see you at the tables..Larry
i agree totaly that reducing the rake at the lower levels would be a great idea, it would certainly encourage me to play more often.
i love the site, the tv channel and presenters, and the great camaraderie within the poker playing community.
people ask me. why i don't try some of the other sites and i answer truthfully that i wouldn't want to lose what sky poker gives me.
so come on sky poker bosses, give us little people a break. even if it is a small one.
hiya m8 i voted yes i think its a good idea also maybe do irishrovers suggestion as a trial period to see if it works N1 dtw