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Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(

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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :( : Cheers, makes perfect sense.  I played DYMs for about a week but thought the rake was a bit excessive so moved straight to 4NL as soon as I had 10BI's.  I've now played for three months and still around the 10BI level so not going anywhere really.  I'm thinking whether I should go back to the DYMs for a while or keep grinding on. PS sorry Shaun for hijacking your post.  If you enjoy playing and can afford it then keep playing. 
    Posted by Patching99
    If you are breaking even then i guess just keep playing cash, the good thing is you are not losing, so as you are not losing then you will get better and better with more experience, so breaking even + learning will eventually lead to winning. And breaking even is in a way winning, you are just unable to beat the rake but at least you are slightly beating the other players. Just work hard on your game and you will turn breaking even into winning, post some hands in the poker clinic, read stuff, look through your hands etc.
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    cheers mate its good to hear of somebody who has played me. If i think im good ill carry on. But i know what you mean, some time i just keep going and dont listen to the reply i get when they keep calling. :( thank you for the other post, i think i might need to get some books,
    Posted by shaun09
    dont forget there is also soooooo much stuff online about poker strategy, and most of it is free!
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited May 2010
    ok trips so where am i going wrong lol

    shaun if u want, msg me a few key hands and i will over them and give u ome advice.
    failing that, if u prefer, post on here and we can dissect a few hands, but dont forget to remove names
  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited May 2010
    invest in a couple of decent books.  Harrington on holdem is prob the best if you are into mtt`s.  Seriously mate, your game will improve overnight
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    Shauney mate! I've played with you and your problem is that you think everyone is bluffing and that if you go all in with two pair when the flush hits the river when someone has re-raised you will get them to fold, the problem (as i see it) is two fold... 1. you don't listen to/believe the answer you are getting from your raise. 2. your massive all in overbet with two pair is ALWAYS going to get called by the flush chaser who hit! These are easily fixable leaks in your game. It's not too tragic to fix mate, you know where your problems are, it's up to you to do the rest :o) x
    Posted by TRIP5
    I love this, they're always at it !!!!! haha

    PM Mahony, he'll give you directions to the crossroads! ;)
  • robcrobc Member Posts: 521
    edited May 2010
    Hiya mate,

     Imo i would try posting a few hands in the poker clinic, try going through your hand history and try to find situations you find yourself in regularly. That you lose money in.

    Not bad beats but situations you think you should be playing better and you should get positive feedback on how you can play the hand better. 

    If you can afford to lose the money and enjoying it untill you go bust keep it going as you will start improving if you post hands and read up on strategy. Maybe try check out the odds on making your draws and read up on pot odds etc.. Someone said about reading the books cover to cover, which may work for them and you but another way (the way i do it) is pick the part i want to learn that day and read it over and over, try writing it out etc. as i find reading it cover to cover does't stick in your mind long enough. Say at the start of the book it talks about pot odds, by the end of the book i wont be able to remember anything about pot odds lol maybe thats just me.

    I would suggest sticking to cash if you want to make a profit. When you make a profit from cash use that as your buy in for a MTT? I used to try only play tournaments and if you start running bad and go a long time without a cash you see your BR slowly go down the pan. As blackfish said about DYM it may be worth giving them ago as you learn the basics but i wouldn't play them to long. i agree they can stop your learning if you play them exclusively for the reasons already given. 

     Gl at the tables mate hope to see a few hands posted from you soon 


       Rob
  • robcrobc Member Posts: 521
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :( : Cheers, makes perfect sense.  I played DYMs for about a week but thought the rake was a bit excessive so moved straight to 4NL as soon as I had 10BI's.  I've now played for three months and still around the 10BI level so not going anywhere really.  I'm thinking whether I should go back to the DYMs for a while or keep grinding on. PS sorry Shaun for hijacking your post.  If you enjoy playing and can afford it then keep playing. 
    Posted by Patching99
     Same happened to me when i first went to cash, the thing that helped me is posting hands and trawling through the hand history's seeing if you can find a pattern of where your losing your money. If your breaking even i would stick with it mate and keep grinding and keep trying to learn and fix leaks on the way im sure you will start grinding a profit eventually.
  • shaun09shaun09 Member Posts: 1,606
    edited May 2010

    Ok i will give a few dym ago. I cant do 30p and 60ps i normally just do £1.15 ones. or should i do lower ones? But yeah i think i have a few hands i could post, i might go have a check now. Mrwh1te i think i have been on your table a few times. Mayb if i see you on tables ill come join you!

    Thank you all for your posts. keep then coming!!

  • stuzastuza Member Posts: 44
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    Ok i will give a few dym ago. I cant do 30p and 60ps i normally just do £1.15 ones. or should i do lower ones? But yeah i think i have a few hands i could post, i might go have a check now. Mrwh1te i think i have been on your table a few times. Mayb if i see you on tables ill come join you! Thank you all for your posts. keep then coming!!
    Posted by shaun09

    Yeah try any of the range mate from 30p 60p or 1.15, just get yourself into a winning way.
    Will start to realise that you cash in maybe 2 out of 3. Its a slow grind at those stakes but least will aim you to making profit than losing.
    I used to be the same on another site. Came here and been in profit all the way.
    Just takes patience and believe in your game

    stu
  • Patching99Patching99 Member Posts: 446
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :( : If you are breaking even then i guess just keep playing cash, the good thing is you are not losing, so as you are not losing then you will get better and better with more experience, so breaking even + learning will eventually lead to winning. And breaking even is in a way winning, you are just unable to beat the rake but at least you are slightly beating the other players. Just work hard on your game and you will turn breaking even into winning, post some hands in the poker clinic, read stuff, look through your hands etc.
    Posted by BlackFish3
    Cheers for the advice, I'm going to keep it going at this level but spend more time trying to work out the many mistakes I'm sure I'm making.
  • Patching99Patching99 Member Posts: 446
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :( :  Same happened to me when i first went to cash, the thing that helped me is posting hands and trawling through the hand history's seeing if you can find a pattern of where your losing your money. If your breaking even i would stick with it mate and keep grinding and keep trying to learn and fix leaks on the way im sure you will start grinding a profit eventually.
    Posted by robc
    Cheers mate, as I said above, I will keep grinding on.  I'm determined to move up the levels so guess I just need to work a bit harder.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited May 2010
    have you ever thought the site might be rigged against you!!!!. seriously though, as above "listen learn and apply"
  • -TARAS--TARAS- Member Posts: 394
    edited May 2010
  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    Ok i will give a few dym ago. I cant do 30p and 60ps i normally just do £1.15 ones. or should i do lower ones? But yeah i think i have a few hands i could post, i might go have a check now. Mrwh1te i think i have been on your table a few times. Mayb if i see you on tables ill come join you! Thank you all for your posts. keep then coming!!
    Posted by shaun09
    I personally would play the lowest level i was winning at, but that might not be for you, if you find 30p dyms too boring then dont bother playing them lol. But as i say, i personally would just play at the highest level i could beat comfortably.
  • Seagull158Seagull158 Member Posts: 1,100
    edited May 2010
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :(:
    In Response to Re: Im always loosing! do i need to give poker up :( : Cheers for the advice, I'm going to keep it going at this level but spend more time trying to work out the many mistakes I'm sure I'm making.
    Posted by Patching99
    Keep stats every session of cash. At the end of every session I record how long I have played, how much profit or loss I have made and how many hands I played (have to do thast by counting the hand history. From that you can not only keep a running total of profit per hour and profit per 100 hands but you can also see how many winning sessions you have, how many losing sessions and can focus in on the big losing sessions. In my case I make a profit in about 75% of sessions and a running profit of around 30bb per 100 hands (over a total of 9000 hands) but I have the occasional losing session where I lose 2 or 3 BIs. Studying these sessions highlights that these big losing sessions are typically down to 3 or 4 hands where I lose close to a BI each time. Once you have that information you can look at whether you got outdrawn or whether you were chasing and hoping to get lucky Of course, your stats may be very different from mine and you may be dripping money away slowly rather than losing big chunks.
  • shaun09shaun09 Member Posts: 1,606
    edited May 2010
    Woo hoo, i went into the 12k bounty hunter sat today for £1 and i won it so i got entry into the semi which would of been £4.80, And now i have finished top 8 of that out of 45 to gain entry into thursday nights 12k bounty! wooo hooo
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