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ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION / p.s. I dont bite lol!

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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Thanks very much for the response and kind words Mr Rover they are greatly appreciated. This is a great thread that you've taken the time to help out others on, thanks again. Also, hopefully we'l see more of each other at the tables and il be able to let you know how i get on. JC
    Posted by JohnConnor
    No probs,

    its nice to give something back ,

    but no refunds lol !

    yep look forward to seen you on the deepstack  tables once again.
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    hi cyber m8ty                                i for one think deepstacks are very good to learn your own strategy                   wether your bankroll building or just for fun,                                   1 the statagy for fun u see every flop and every hand out ?                   2 the strategy for bankroll building u should have a range of cards u can play for flops like ie k-10 kq 10- j  9 - 10 being able to get off the cards and waiting for next hand as its y its called a deepstacks seeing loads of hands?  your thoughts plz m8ty and i would encourage all new and old bankrollers to play the deepstacks lots of hands lots of fun.  gl every1 on your tables what ever they are:)
    Posted by lucky77777
    Yep total agree with above,

    i would expand also on this with trapping with a flat call on

     AA , KK, AK , QQ , AQ .

    This works best against one player .

    but make sure one can get off it on a bad flop like 5 5 7 or  2 2 9  e.t.c

    you really should not play this trapping game unless you have the b..ls

    to dump the hand on flop and defo turn if it goes baddddddddd !


  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited June 2010
    hello Mr Rover , sir.

    Is there such a thing as ABC poker on the 2p/4p tables?
    Been doing them for the month with the br challenge and doing Ok but now hit a brickwall.
    Good hands like AA, KK, AK suited raising 4bb's and being called by more than 1 alot. Even after c betting (half to pot size) and maybe also on the turn people stay in and they hit.
    Lost about a sixth of my br in 2 days! Staying off the tables now b4 I go completely tilted.
    Thinking of buying a book on holdem (Harrington?).

    Any advice greatly appreciated.
    Cheers
  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    hello Mr Rover , sir. Is there such a thing as ABC poker on the 2p/4p tables? Been doing them for the month with the br challenge and doing Ok but now hit a brickwall. Good hands like AA, KK, AK suited raising 4bb's and being called by more than 1 alot. Even after c betting (half to pot size) and maybe also on the turn people stay in and they hit. Lost about a sixth of my br in 2 days! Staying off the tables now b4 I go completely tilted. Thinking of buying a book on holdem (Harrington?). Any advice greatly appreciated. Cheers
    Posted by walesboy
    sounds like ur just in a bit of run bad or loosened up your preflop raising range too much (sconns from MP i guess?)

    dont c-bet 100% esp if u get multiple callers and u miss, hard to say....post some examples where u think ur leaking
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    hello Mr Rover , sir. Is there such a thing as ABC poker on the 2p/4p tables? Been doing them for the month with the br challenge and doing Ok but now hit a brickwall. Good hands like AA, KK, AK suited raising 4bb's and being called by more than 1 alot. Even after c betting (half to pot size) and maybe also on the turn people stay in and they hit. Lost about a sixth of my br in 2 days! Staying off the tables now b4 I go completely tilted. Thinking of buying a book on holdem (Harrington?). Any advice greatly appreciated. Cheers
    Posted by walesboy

    Ty walesboy for your questions.

    it seems you are doing ABC poker more or less .

    just try this  little bet change as follows :

    because its 2p/4p one tends to get a lot of punters in calling ,

    so one has to play tight ,

    wait for the cards and be extra aggressive when betting out .

    so with AA ,  KK , QQ  bet x6 or x7 preflop .

    if the flop looks safe bet the size of the pot !

    make them pay huge to see every card no freebies or limping .

    with AK , AQ, AJ , X3  preflop .

    Now on a positive note look back

    and see how much cash you are up in the last 2 months .


    TILT IS YOU GIVING BACK THIS HARD EARNED MONEY

    MAKE THOSE PLAYERS FISHIING WORK FOR IT AND DON'T TILT !


  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Ty walesboy for your questions. it seems you are doing ABC poker more or less . just try this  little bet change as follows : because its 2p/4p one tends to get a lot of punters in calling , so one has to play tight , wait for the cards and be extra aggressive when betting out . so with AA ,  KK , QQ  bet x6 or x7 preflop . if the flop looks safe bet the size of the pot ! make them pay huge to see every card no freebies or limping . with AK , AQ, AJ , X3  preflop . Now on a positive note look back and see how much cash you are up in the last 2 months . TILT IS YOU GIVING BACK THIS HARD EARNED MONEY MAKE THOSE PLAYERS FISHIING WORK FOR IT AND DON'T TILT !
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    thanks for the advice.
    Looking back was a good idea - forgot how far the br had come, just looking at the recent history.
  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited June 2010
    well
    might self imposed exile lasted less than 24 hours
    don't know why i bothered.
    lost it all in 2 hands - had 1010 raised 3bb pre and had 3 callers. came down 10j8 rainbow. betted half pot, got called, bet half pot again turn. jack came river and he had jack 10.
    second one after turn had ace flush, with jack in hand and king on board. went all in. he had 2 kings in hand and 4th king came on river!
    sigh - couldn't write this stuff.

    first hand - should I have bet pot, also on turn? or is half pot fine?
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    well might self imposed exile lasted less than 24 hours don't know why i bothered. lost it all in 2 hands - had 1010 raised 3bb pre and had 3 callers. came down 10j8 rainbow. betted half pot, got called, bet half pot again turn. jack came river and he had jack 10. second one after turn had ace flush, with jack in hand and king on board. went all in. he had 2 kings in hand and 4th king came on river! sigh - couldn't write this stuff. first hand - should I have bet pot, also on turn? or is half pot fine?
    Posted by walesboy

    These hands above really play themselves ,

    its part of the wonderful game of poker.

    What's much more important is how you react when you hit a bad run,

    like what is happening to you now.

    A lot of players tend to tilt on a bad run and lose more money ,

    then they steady the ship look back and say da mn why did i go on tilt

    now i got to win those loses back,

    which takes a lot more effort, time and skill to do so .

    This is speaking from someone who used to do this awhile back lol !

    Now what i do is take a break from the game i am playing ,

    in your case the cash game.

    so my advice to you is drop down to 60p or  £1 double your moneys for a bit

    and have some fun .

    This way you will cut your loses  or may gain a little  money ,

    but most of all you are taking the pressure off your self and  getting back to

    enjoying the game .

    When your poker head is right again and your luck lol

    move back to your cash game refreshed .

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2010
    Hey Rover, in cash 2p/4p how would you play a hand like AQ/AJ/KQ also 99/88/77 after a minraise from early position. Is it good to reraise to 20-24p or just call in position ?
  • san3san3 Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2010
    In Response to ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    SPECIALIST ? LOL ! MY OLD CYBER BUDDY DOHHHHHHH SAYS US GUYS WITH EXPERIENCE SHOULD BE HELPING  OUT IN THIS POKER CLINIC SO HERE I ISSSSSSSSSSS  ! MY AVERAGE STAKE IS £3 . I HAVE PLAYED POKER HERE SINCE THE START MORE OR LESS . MY BIGGEST WIN IS £300 THAT WAS A FREEROLL IN THE GOOD OLDS DAYS ON HERE . TOTAL PROFIT ON HERE 8.6K BEST POKER  ACHIEVEMENTS ON SKYPOKER , 20 CASHS ON THE BOUNCE IN DOUBLE YOUR MONEY & 28 CONSECUTIVE WINNING MONTHS AT PRESENT ON SKYPOKER & COUNTING . SO IF YOU WANT HELP WITH ANY TYPE OF LOW STAKES GAMES ASK ME A QUESTION . I HAVE PROFITED IN THEM ALL . SO FIRE AWAY AND I WILL DO MY BEST FOR YOU !
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    why do i keep losing rover pleeeeeeeze tell me lol
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    Hey Rover, in cash 2p/4p how would you play a hand like AQ/AJ/KQ also 99/88/77 after a minraise from early position. Is it good to reraise to 20-24p or just call in position ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Ty for the question DUDE ,

    I looking to see a cheap flop here ,

    so i am calling in position .

    Expanding on this i would call x4 maybe x5  on the mid pairs .

    But only x3 on AQ, AJ  and x2 on KQ.

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Ty for the question DUDE , I looking to see a cheap flop here , so i am calling in position . Expanding on this i would call x4 maybe x5  on the mid pairs . But only x3 on AQ, AJ  and x2 on KQ.
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    Thanks for the reply.
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010



      Well thats it!

    Golden 2 months ago, now Im goneeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    What a crazy game this is.

    Ive been absolutely destroyed tonight for my last 7 buy ins, heads up.......this guy couldn't do anything wrong. He cudnt miss, I cudnt hit. Wow Ive never felt so helpless.

    Anyway - having gone through the hottest streak ever - where I couldnt miss a set, or a draw, gonna have to clock off.  Need the pennies for beer and take-aways :)

    4k in a month was unbelievable, but the feeling of losing £800 in 10 days is much more powerful! 

    Shall be around, and in the shed.....

    And...
    IF....

    Uruguay win the world cup......

    Ill be bak with a bankroll of £5 x 100 + 5 x 25 = well summat like a kooool £700 BR!

    Goodnight, god bless :(


    Hi Doh,

    This bad run or tilt or bad br management  is what can break or make a player.

    Before depositing in your account make sure you do the following :

    1. write down how much off a plank you are for  getting your self in to this situation ,

     this note can be kept for future reference .

    2. After you cleared your head & ready to go back in the cash ring,

    look back at what poker game profited you best .

    3. concentrate on just this game and build a roll ,

    if you want a break from this drop down to very low stakes and have some fun.

    4. after you build your roll above £ 300 skim it off each time in to your credit card .

    5. If ever you feel tilt coming on again , pull that note out and slap yourself in the face lol !

  • san3san3 Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2010
    hi rover great advice on here but tell me why oh why every time i get AK i lose. Happens nearly every time. Thinking of folding in future lol.HEEEEEEELP MEEEEEE
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited June 2010

    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:

    hi rover great advice on here but tell me why oh why every time i get AK i lose. Happens nearly every time. Thinking of folding in future lol.HEEEEEEELP MEEEEEE
    Posted by san3
    Hi my cyber bud and ty for the question ,

    I took the liberty of  doing a stats search on you in sharkscope hope you dont mind ,

    now previous to the last 3 months you were doing great .

    you and only you know why the last 3 months after this

    have dented your confidence
     
    and pocket .

    the A K question would be related to mtt known your good self.

    depends what level of mtt / position  e.t.c very hard to answer

    more detail required .

    but more importantly you did something right 3 months ago and you did this for

    quiet awhile consistently .

    what i keep saying in this thread you guys need to note it down when your on

    a good run,
     
    what am i doing right .

    when a bad run comes  drop down in stakes,

    cut your losses and be paitence down there .

    when your focused , feeling lucky and on your on top of your  game move back up .

  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited June 2010
    Hey Irish Man - Good game last night, was a fun table.

    My question to you is, can you post the result from last nights tourny on here, I have used my 5 free S S searches trying to find it, but can't!

    Thanx
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited June 2010
    Hi Mr Rover,

    i am very impressed with your stats and the consistent way you make money at the levels you play. I have the utmost respect for you in this regard.

    My question is, how do you maintain your bankroll discipline and patience?

    My biggest problem is bankroll discipline, and getting bored playing games like dyms/cash that i know i could consistently profit in if i had the patience to do this.

    Please feel free to look at my Sharkscope for sngs, etc, and advise me the best way to be more consistent. What games should i focus on to maximise my profits and how can i be more disciplined?

    Many thanks

    Hoggers
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    Hey Irish Man - Good game last night, was a fun table. My question to you is, can you post the result from last nights tourny on here, I have used my 5 free S S searches trying to find it, but can't! Thanx
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    soz doh it seems sharkscope missed this mtt ,

    occasionally this happens  with sharkscope .
  • INFINITYEVINFINITYEV Member Posts: 11
    edited July 2010
    Hi Irishrover,

    I am fairly new to Sky Poker and don't really know any of the cash game players apart from GREGHOGG, who is the only player I fear playing OOP against.  I mainly play 10p/20p cash games and am looking to start table selecting better, to increase my winrate.  What players should I be avoiding and who should I be hunting at the low stakes?

    Please send me a private post with the names of the top fish and any betting tells that you know of, if you don't want to post them on here. You can add my name to the top of the fish list if you want :)

    Thanks!
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION:
    Hi Mr Rover, i am very impressed with your stats and the consistent way you make money at the levels you play. I have the utmost respect for you in this regard. My question is, how do you maintain your bankroll discipline and patience? My biggest problem is bankroll discipline, and getting bored playing games like dyms/cash that i know i could consistently profit in if i had the patience to do this. Please feel free to look at my Sharkscope for sngs, etc, and advise me the best way to be more consistent. What games should i focus on to maximise my profits and how can i be more disciplined? Many thanks Hoggers
    Posted by GREGHOGG

    Ty mr hoggers  for the questions & compliment .

    I use my sharkscope graph to help in  controlling my discipline and patience .

    If this graph starts to slide a good bit ,

    i check back on games and try find the reasons for this .

    sometimes its just bad habits creeping in from the repetitive nature

    of playing poker every day.

    so to consistently win & enjoy my poker,

    i find  one needs at least 3 different games to mix around

    and alleviate the boredom.

    example :

    mine are omaha dym / nlh cash / nlh deepsack .

    I note from your stats you profit in both s&g & mtt consistently .

    so from now on try focus on that graph and let this be your goal,

    try keep it on a uphill spiral consistently .

    Note also checking profit on a ongoing monthly bases can

    be a great help to motivate oneself in becoming more

    consistent & patience  .



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