i've been playing Poker for 1 Year & 3 weeks started on this site as a hobby (now addicted ) in this time i've played all types of MTT's (played 750+ cashed 214) & the last few months have been mainly playing Cash Tables 2p/4p & 4p/8p i have noticed that MTT & CASH TABLES completely different games so have adapted to both my fav tourney is Deepstack which i've now started playing again last few days at present i've been using profit from cash to buy-in MTT's
So my question is
(a) What BR is needed to move upto 10p/20p & 15p/30p on cash?
(b) Do you think Sats are a good way of getting into Main Events for MTT?
(c) Would it be better for me to build my BR on Cash so i can then buy-in to the bigger Deepstacks like Dantb / £22 Monday nite d/s & the Double Stacks
In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Ty mr hoggers for the questions & compliment . I use my sharkscope graph to help in controlling my discipline and patience . If this graph starts to slide a good bit , i check back on games and try find the reasons for this . sometimes its just bad habits creeping in from the repetitive nature of playing poker every day. so to consistently win & enjoy my poker, i find one needs at least 3 different games to mix around and alleviate the boredom. example : mine are omaha dym / nlh cash / nlh deepsack . I note from your stats you profit in both s&g & mtt consistently . so from now on try focus on that graph and let this be this be your goal, try keep it on a uphill spiral consistently . Note also checking profit on a ongoing monthly bases can be a great help to motivate oneself in becoming more consistent & patience . Posted by IRISHROVER
thank you for your reply
I will try this, and will update you in a few months.
Hi Irishrover, I am fairly new to Sky Poker and don't really know any of the cash game players apart from GREGHOGG, who is the only player I fear playing OOP against. I mainly play 10p/20p cash games and am looking to start table selecting better, to increase my winrate. What players should I be avoiding and who should I be hunting at the low stakes? Please send me a private post with the names of the top fish and any betting tells that you know of, if you don't want to post them on here. You can add my name to the top of the fish list if you want Thanks! Posted by INFINITYEV
Ty INFINITYEV for your questions ,
but i am afraid this would be a injustice to those players who have made
great effort to take notes on one another.
passing this info on i personally feel would be wrong .
but feel free to ask another question and i hope i will be of
Hi Irish great thread m8y here's my Question? i've been playing Poker for 1 Year & 3 weeks started on this site as a hobby (now addicted ) in this time i've played all types of MTT's (played 750+ cashed 214) & the last few months have been mainly playing Cash Tables 2p/4p & 4p/8p i have noticed that MTT & CASH TABLES completely different games so have adapted to both my fav tourney is Deepstack which i've now started playing again last few days at present i've been using profit from cash to buy-in MTT's So my question is (a) What BR is needed to move upto 10p/20p & 15p/30p on cash? (b) Do you think Sats are a good way of getting into Main Events for MTT? (c) Would it be better for me to build my BR on Cash so i can then buy-in to the bigger Deepstacks like Dantb / £22 Monday nite d/s & the Double Stacks many thanks Michael Posted by DTWBANDIT
Ty michael for these questions ,
as said on previous post on this thread ,
one of my very best buds on here will be helping out.
so over to you the wiz of oz specialist in mid/low cash
Hi Irish great thread m8y here's my Question? i've been playing Poker for 1 Year & 3 weeks started on this site as a hobby (now addicted ) in this time i've played all types of MTT's (played 750+ cashed 214) & the last few months have been mainly playing Cash Tables 2p/4p & 4p/8p i have noticed that MTT & CASH TABLES completely different games so have adapted to both my fav tourney is Deepstack which i've now started playing again last few days at present i've been using profit from cash to buy-in MTT's So my question is (a) What BR is needed to move upto 10p/20p & 15p/30p on cash? (b) Do you think Sats are a good way of getting into Main Events for MTT? (c) Would it be better for me to build my BR on Cash so i can then buy-in to the bigger Deepstacks like Dantb / £22 Monday nite d/s & the Double Stacks many thanks Michael Posted by DTWBANDIT
Hey den i aint no specialist u cheeky g i t, wish i was lol
Hi michael, i think you play poker as a hobbie so your amount of buy ins does not need to be as much as a player who plays for there living. I think its best to have 20/25 buy ins and this comes from my poker manager who runs so bad but has gr8 advice *smileyface*. You know who you are, here is some advice for him as well, its time to nit up.
If you move up a level and start losing, there is no shame in moving back down to the previous level. This is key to gd br management. When you have rebuilt go and have another crack at that level.
Sats are a gr8 way of getting into the bigger tournies for a cheaper price, If your br is on the low side its best to avoid buying in to the main events beacuse as we know tournies have alot more variance.
When i was building my br i found cash to be the best way, and remember there is no rush to move up the levels. When i was br building as much as i wanted to play the bigger tournies i never bought in, it was sats all the way. You have been grinding away well michael so just keep doing wot you have been doing and yr soon be moving on to the nxt level
In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Hey den i aint no specialist u cheeky g i t, wish i was lol Hi michael, i think you play poker as a hobbie so your amount of buy ins does not need to be as much as a player who plays for there living. I think its best to have 20/25 buy ins and this comes from my poker manager who runs so bad but has gr8 advice *smileyface*. You know who you are, here is some advice for him as well, its time to nit up. If you move up a level and start losing, there is no shame in moving back down to the previous level. This is key to gd br management. When you have rebuilt go and have another crack at that level. Sats are a gr8 way of getting into the bigger tournies for a cheaper price, If your br is on the low side its best to avoid buying in to the main events beacuse as we know tournies have alot more variance. When i was building my br i found cash to be the best way, and remember there is no rush to move up the levels. When i was br building as much as i wanted to play the bigger tournies i never bought in, it was sats all the way. You have been grinding away well michael so just keep doing wot you have been doing and yr soon be moving on to the nxt level gl m8 Posted by Ozzie08
Many Thanks to Denis for replying so quickly & to OZZIE08 for taking the time to answer my questions its very much appreciated m8 have printed out your advice so i have it at hand next to me laptop for Reference
Hi Irishrover, I have been playing poker for a about 2 years. I got lucky at the start and got hooked. I do not manage a bankroll as such.I play for entertainment, and NLH is brilliant when you are winning, dire when you are having a bad run. I play all levels , I tend to play what I can afford. As you have access to sharkscope, what would your advice to me be, if I wanted to stay in profit/ A big ask I know!
My question is, whats a good measure of knowing when your ready to move up the levels in micro stakes?
I have been 2 tabling 4NL for a while and have got my bankroll up from a low of £25 back up to £60 in two months. I probably only play half an hour each night on average, so although I am moving in the right direction slowly I'm not exactly playing a great volume.
Do you think I should start taking shots at the next level once I reach say £80?
Hi Irishrover, I have been playing poker for a about 2 years. I got lucky at the start and got hooked. I do not manage a bankroll as such.I play for entertainment, and NLH is brilliant when you are winning, dire when you are having a bad run. I play all levels , I tend to play what I can afford. As you have access to sharkscope, what would your advice to me be, if I wanted to stay in profit/ A big ask I know! Posted by wynne1938
Ty Wynne for the questions,
Dealing with bad runs ,
i feel is the hidden secret in how to be a profitable player .
If you search back in the posts on this thread ,
i have touched on this subject .
After reviewing your last 250 games & stats on sharkscope i note
of late you are showing good profit in double your money games ,
but losing this profit in mtt games .
so try the following for a few months :
note your starting bankroll ,
concentrate 95 % on dym games .
keep the buy in these games the same .
keep notes on players in this circle of dym buy ins .
Treat yourself to bank roll affordable mtts
for the other 5% of your games .
Any further question on above don't hesitate to ask !
Hi Irish, My question is, whats a good measure of knowing when your ready to move up the levels in micro stakes? I have been 2 tabling 4NL for a while and have got my bankroll up from a low of £25 back up to £60 in two months. I probably only play half an hour each night on average, so although I am moving in the right direction slowly I'm not exactly playing a great volume. Do you think I should start taking shots at the next level once I reach say £80? Posted by Patching99
Ty patching for the question ,
I will get ozzie the low / mid cash specialist [ lol ozzie ] ,
to answer this question tonight for you.
That is of course If the good man that he is can find the time tonight .
Hi Irish Would i be able to check my cash table stats on sharkscope & if so how would i do it? If not what would you advise is best way of keeping track ? Michael Posted by DTWBANDIT
Ty for the question michael ,
Unfortunately sharkscope don't cover cash,
I would keep track by noting down your bring ins to the cash table &
your profit or loses as you pop in and out of tables .
you can also find this Info in your accounts page in skypoker .
Can I please ask you to give me your honest advice on how I can improve my return when playing poker here via my shark scope stats. I am not a cash player and used to play a lot of the bigger MTT's on here but I am now just realising that the variance in these were crippling my BR. I do not really have any BRM and normally just play the games which were on but I am now becoming more selective and for the last month or so feel that my game is more suited to the deep stack tournaments.
Should I just mainly concentrate on these now (with the odd forum SnG of course) and try to steer clear of all the other temptations for a while or persevere with a mixture of games?
Hi Irish Would i be able to check my cash table stats on sharkscope & if so how would i do it? If not what would you advise is best way of keeping track ? Michael Posted by DTWBANDIT
Hi Michael, IfI might give an answer here; I have been playing low stakes cash for about 3 months and I keep a spreadsheet. Every session I record how long I played, how much profit or loss I made and how many hands I played. Unfortunately, the only way to get the information on how many hands you played is to go into My Account, select the session and then scroll down and count all the hands. It doesn't take longer than 2 or 3 minutes to do this. Once you have this information logged for each session it's easy to calculate how much you are winning or losing per hour and per 100 hands. I calculate 4 running totals; profit per hour, profit per 100 hands, profit in bb's per hour and profit in bb's per 100 hands. I keep a separate list and calculate separate running totals for each level at which I play. If you play multiple levels then the bb's per 100 hands is the best comparison as to how you perform at the different levels.
In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Hi Michael, If I might give an answer here; I have been playing low stakes cash for about 3 months and I keep a spreadsheet. Every session I record how long I played, how much profit or loss I made and how many hands I played. Unfortunately, the only way to get the information on how many hands you played is to go into My Account, select the session and then scroll down and count all the hands. It doesn't take longer than 2 or 3 minutes to do this. Once you have this information logged for each session it's easy to calculate how much you are winning or losing per hour and per 100 hands. I calculate 4 running totals; profit per hour, profit per 100 hands, profit in bb's per hour and profit in bb's per 100 hands. I keep a separate list and calculate separate running totals for each level at which I play. If you play multiple levels then the bb's per 100 hands is the best comparison as to how you perform at the different levels. Posted by Seagull158
In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Hi Michael, If I might give an answer here; I have been playing low stakes cash for about 3 months and I keep a spreadsheet. Every session I record how long I played, how much profit or loss I made and how many hands I played. Unfortunately, the only way to get the information on how many hands you played is to go into My Account, select the session and then scroll down and count all the hands. It doesn't take longer than 2 or 3 minutes to do this. Once you have this information logged for each session it's easy to calculate how much you are winning or losing per hour and per 100 hands. I calculate 4 running totals; profit per hour, profit per 100 hands, profit in bb's per hour and profit in bb's per 100 hands. I keep a separate list and calculate separate running totals for each level at which I play. If you play multiple levels then the bb's per 100 hands is the best comparison as to how you perform at the different levels. Posted by Seagull158
Afternoon Denis Can I please ask you to give me your honest advice on how I can improve my return when playing poker here via my shark scope stats. I am not a cash player and used to play a lot of the bigger MTT's on here but I am now just realising that the variance in these were crippling my BR. I do not really have any BRM and normally just play the games which were on but I am now becoming more selective and for the last month or so feel that my game is more suited to the deep stack tournaments. Should I just mainly concentrate on these now (with the odd forum SnG of course) and try to steer clear of all the other temptations for a while or persevere with a mixture of games? Regards, Alan Posted by MAXALLY
Ty Alan [ my offical stalker ] for the questions ,
well you did say be honest right here goes lol .
In your last 250 games a lot of which were bounty hunters [ bh ]
On bh games you invested over £ 500 and are shown a loss of over £400,
Taking the bh games out you would be shown a healthy profit on
on the rest of the 250 games you played .
so yep stick to other games like deepstacks & forum s&gs i note
from playing on these with you ,
that you do great on these and yes your stats prove this .
I think also you have the waiting game and moves to profit well on dym games .
In Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION : Ty Wynne for the questions, Dealing with bad runs , i feel is the hidden secret in how to be a profitable player . If you search back in the posts on this thread , i have touched on this subject . After reviewing your last 250 games & stats on sharkscope i note of late you are showing good profit in double your money games , but losing this profit in mtt games . so try the following for a few months : note your starting bankroll , concentrate 95 % on dym games . keep the buy in these games the same . keep notes on players in this circle of dym buy ins . Treat yourself to bank roll affordable mtts for the other 5% of your games . Any further question on above don't hesitate to ask ! Denis Posted by IRISHROVER
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Hi Irish great thread m8y here's my Question?
i've been playing Poker for 1 Year & 3 weeks started on this site as a hobby (now addicted ) in this time i've played all types of MTT's (played 750+ cashed 214) & the last few months have been mainly playing Cash Tables 2p/4p & 4p/8p i have noticed that MTT & CASH TABLES completely different games so have adapted to both my fav tourney is Deepstack which i've now started playing again last few days at present i've been using profit from cash to buy-in MTT's
So my question is
(a) What BR is needed to move upto 10p/20p & 15p/30p on cash?
(b) Do you think Sats are a good way of getting into Main Events for MTT?
(c) Would it be better for me to build my BR on Cash so i can then buy-in to the bigger Deepstacks like Dantb / £22 Monday nite d/s & the Double Stacks
many thanks
Michael
would u say that the ToT £2.20 on Monday would be a good way to get experience on tournament play?
I will try this, and will update you in a few months.
Ty INFINITYEV for your questions ,
but i am afraid this would be a injustice to those players who have made
great effort to take notes on one another.
passing this info on i personally feel would be wrong .
but feel free to ask another question and i hope i will be of
more help .
soz again denis
Ty michael for these questions ,
as said on previous post on this thread ,
one of my very best buds on here will be helping out.
so over to you the wiz of oz specialist in mid/low cash
ozzie !
Hi michael, i think you play poker as a hobbie so your amount of buy ins does not need to be as much as a player who plays for there living. I think its best to have 20/25 buy ins and this comes from my poker manager who runs so bad but has gr8 advice *smileyface*. You know who you are, here is some advice for him as well, its time to nit up.
If you move up a level and start losing, there is no shame in moving back down to the previous level. This is
key to gd br management. When you have rebuilt go and have another crack at that level.
Sats are a gr8 way of getting into the bigger tournies for a cheaper price, If your br is on the low side its best to avoid buying in to the main events beacuse as we know tournies have alot more variance.
When i was building my br i found cash to be the best way, and remember there is no rush to move up the levels. When i was br building as much as i wanted to play the bigger tournies i never bought in, it was sats all the way. You have been grinding away well michael so just keep doing wot you have been doing and yr soon be moving on to the nxt level
gl m8
Many Thanks to Denis for replying so quickly & to OZZIE08 for taking the time to answer my questions its very much appreciated m8 have printed out your advice so i have it at hand next to me laptop for Reference
Cheers guys
Michael
Ty walesboy for the question ,
The following advice
is based from research carried out on your stats from sharkscope :
On april 2010 you seemed to have found your winning game ,
you have profited on a monthly bases since then .
As you are aware this game is double your money no limit holdem [ dym nlh ]
now i note you play very low stakes .
After reviewing your dym stats i note you had a 16 game winning streak
This is a great achievement no matter what level one plays well done .
So if i was you i would move up slowly one level in dym ,
do this the following way :
every second game move to that higher level and then back down to the
level you are used to .
When moving up,
try your best to keep playing the way you do on the lower level .
When you feel comfortable with higher level stay on this permanently .
If you hit a bad run move back down refocus and move back up again .
Now in answer to your original question T O T £ 2.20 ,
Your skill on dym will prove very profitable over time on these deepstacks and
i would defo recommend you play these to take a quick break form the monotony
of dym games .
If you need clarification on any of the above don't hesitate to ask !
Denis
I have been playing poker for a about 2 years. I got lucky at the start and got hooked.
I do not manage a bankroll as such.I play for entertainment, and NLH is brilliant when you are winning, dire when you are having a bad run.
I play all levels , I tend to play what I can afford. As you have access to sharkscope, what would your advice to me be, if I wanted to stay in profit/
A big ask I know!
My question is, whats a good measure of knowing when your ready to move up the levels in micro stakes?
I have been 2 tabling 4NL for a while and have got my bankroll up from a low of £25 back up to £60 in two months. I probably only play half an hour each night on average, so although I am moving in the right direction slowly I'm not exactly playing a great volume.
Do you think I should start taking shots at the next level once I reach say £80?
Ty Wynne for the questions,
Dealing with bad runs ,
i feel is the hidden secret in how to be a profitable player .
If you search back in the posts on this thread ,
i have touched on this subject .
After reviewing your last 250 games & stats on sharkscope i note
of late you are showing good profit in double your money games ,
but losing this profit in mtt games .
so try the following for a few months :
note your starting bankroll ,
concentrate 95 % on dym games .
keep the buy in these games the same .
keep notes on players in this circle of dym buy ins .
Treat yourself to bank roll affordable mtts
for the other 5% of your games .
Any further question on above don't hesitate to ask !
Denis
Ty patching for the question ,
I will get ozzie the low / mid cash specialist [ lol ozzie ] ,
to answer this question tonight for you.
That is of course If the good man that he is can find the time tonight .
Denis
Hi Irish Would i be able to check my cash table stats on sharkscope & if so how would i do it?
If not what would you advise is best way of keeping track ?
Michael
uIn Response to Re: ASK IRISHROVER LOW STAKES SPECIALIST A POKER QUESTION: Ty for the question michael ,
Unfortunately sharkscope don't cover cash,
I would keep track by noting down your bring ins to the cash table &
your profit or loses as you pop in and out of tables .
you can also find this Info in your accounts page in skypoker .
Denis
Afternoon Denis
Can I please ask you to give me your honest advice on how I can improve my return when playing poker here via my shark scope stats. I am not a cash player and used to play a lot of the bigger MTT's on here but I am now just realising that the variance in these were crippling my BR. I do not really have any BRM and normally just play the games which were on but I am now becoming more selective and for the last month or so feel that my game is more suited to the deep stack tournaments.
Should I just mainly concentrate on these now (with the odd forum SnG of course) and try to steer clear of all the other temptations for a while or persevere with a mixture of games?
Regards,
Alan
If I might give an answer here; I have been playing low stakes cash for about 3 months and I keep a spreadsheet. Every session I record how long I played, how much profit or loss I made and how many hands I played. Unfortunately, the only way to get the information on how many hands you played is to go into My Account, select the session and then scroll down and count all the hands. It doesn't take longer than 2 or 3 minutes to do this. Once you have this information logged for each session it's easy to calculate how much you are winning or losing per hour and per 100 hands. I calculate 4 running totals; profit per hour, profit per 100 hands, profit in bb's per hour and profit in bb's per 100 hands. I keep a separate list and calculate separate running totals for each level at which I play. If you play multiple levels then the bb's per 100 hands is the best comparison as to how you perform at the different levels.
p.s sent youu a pm .
Many thanks Seagull thats helped me loads dtw
well you did say be honest right here goes lol .
In your last 250 games a lot of which were bounty hunters [ bh ]
On bh games you invested over £ 500 and are shown a loss of over £400,
Taking the bh games out you would be shown a healthy profit on
on the rest of the 250 games you played .
so yep stick to other games like deepstacks & forum s&gs i note
from playing on these with you ,
that you do great on these and yes your stats prove this .
I think also you have the waiting game and moves to profit well on dym games .
Denis
Thanks for your advice.
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