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Is this too tight?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited July 2010 in The Poker Clinic
Wineman Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.60
Dudeskin8 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.80
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 10
     
X Raise  £0.08 £0.14 £1.61
Y All-in  £5.14 £5.28 £0.00
ARIZONA501 Fold     
davieboy Fold     
Wineman Fold     
Dudeskin8 Fold     
X Fold     
Y Muck     
Y Win  £0.22  £0.22
Y Return  £5.06 £0.00 £5.28
Had been on table quite a while, X always minraised into pots from any position so wasn't too worried there, but then Y who hadn't made this all-in pre move in any other hand does this. I hated folding but they seemed less crazy then the usual lot so decided to fold incase it was like JJ/QQ or maybe AK, yes i'm racing but it's not tournement poker. Was it right ?
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Is this too tight?:
    Wineman Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.60 Dudeskin8 Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £3.80   Your hole cards 10 10       X  Raise   £0.08 £0.14 £1.61 Y  All-in   £5.14 £5.28 £0.00 ARIZONA501 Fold         davieboy Fold         Wineman Fold         Dudeskin8 Fold         X  Fold         Y  Muck         Y  Win   £0.22   £0.22 Y  Return   £5.06 £0.00 £5.28 Had been on table quite a while, X always minraised into pots from any position so wasn't too worried there, but then Y who hadn't made this all-in pre move in any other hand does this. I hated folding but they seemed less crazy then the usual lot so decided to fold incase it was like JJ/QQ or maybe AK, yes i'm racing but it's not tournement poker. Was it right ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8

    folding is fine.
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  • BananaDogBananaDog Member Posts: 1,390
    edited June 2010
    think I'd fold there as I'd be wanting to get in cheap to hopefully hit a set - Good fold mate (I think so anyway) x
    ps..if he had raised to maybe 20p I would have called to see the flop but otherwise i think it could just be a race even if he only had JQ and no PP you would have been worried about him hitting even 1 card.
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  • Mr_MiyagiMr_Miyagi Member Posts: 2,031
    edited June 2010
    I fold KK at that level.
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  • Mr_MiyagiMr_Miyagi Member Posts: 2,031
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight? :  You can never be to Cautious I have folded 7-2 to an all in.!!
    Posted by logdon
    Arent you a hoot.
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited June 2010
    not much point calling, qq+ im in for the crack
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  • Sandez89Sandez89 Member Posts: 34
    edited June 2010
    I'd only call AA in this position if they were suited.
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  • -Typhoon--Typhoon- Member Posts: 288
    edited June 2010
    Your only in with the BB, so a defo fold. It's cash!! so no presure to play, sit back and wait for a better spot.
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited June 2010
    No, good fold, coin flip at best.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited June 2010
    I would be tempted to call, so much of the time they have some random PP.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    I would be tempted to call, so much of the time they have some random PP.
    Posted by BlackFish3
    I thought about it, but knew they'd probably turn over Jacks and I've just wasted a BI....
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited June 2010

    Am i the only one who insta calls?

    At those lower levels, 1010 has to have a good chance of being ahead, and if it isn't it has only cost you a fiver to find out and make appropriate notes regarding a stupid all in play by player y.



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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight? : I thought about it, but knew they'd probably turn over Jacks and I've just wasted a BI....
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    you couldn't possibly know this. the random all ins seem to be anything, so TT is good enough for me to get it in i think.
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  • ArcaineArcaine Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2010

    For me AA and KK only, when 127 big blinds deep and I had nothing really invested, unless I know he can ship it in light. Lets say he can have any pocket pair, any ace suited or unsuited down to A7 and KQ, you have a 62% equity. However removing just 7's though 2's and anything below A10 and you are now down to 51%

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  • CowgomooCowgomoo Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2010
    I think I should fold, but I don't think I would.
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  • ArcaineArcaine Member Posts: 4
    edited June 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    I think I should fold, but I don't think I would.
    Posted by Cowgomoo
    I say this to myself everytime I play :)
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  • barnsiebarnsie Member Posts: 496
    edited July 2010
    why call poster says has no reads on oppo, yes its only a fiver but its all relatively to the level 100+ b b's no need to play a big pot
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  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited July 2010
    I'd fold reluctantly.
    People get excited at these levels when they have AA KK,etc and just shove.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    Am i the only one who insta calls? At those lower levels, 1010 has to have a good chance of being ahead, and if it isn't it has only cost you a fiver to find out and make appropriate notes regarding a stupid all in play by player y.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    I can see where your coming from if a buy-in represents less than say 2% of your bankroll but for me I've slowly grinded up to £45 from £17 so it's not so easy to say 'Hey lets just gamble, who cares'.  If I had a larger bankroll calling here would be easy.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight? : I can see where your coming from if a buy-in represents less than say 2% of your bankroll but for me I've slowly grinded up to £45 from £17 so it's not so easy to say 'Hey lets just gamble, who cares'.  If I had a larger bankroll calling here would be easy.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    I don't have the patience to slowly grind at those levels, so i fully respect what you do and totally understand the fold. But, i am afraid i look the guy up because it is a redic bet from him, and he does not have to have us crushed. I cant not call here, because i want to see what he has got, if that makes me a fish, so be it.

    Another reason for the call is the consideration that player y is fed up with player X consistantly min raising in position and has chosen to take a stand, forgetting about the players behind.... Just a thought...



     
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight?:
    In Response to Re: Is this too tight? : I don't have the patience to slowly grind at those levels, so i fully respect what you do and totally understand the fold. But, i am afraid i look the guy up because it is a redic bet from him, and he does not have to have us crushed. I cant not call here, because i want to see what he has got, if that makes me a fish, so be it. Another reason for the call is the consideration that player y is fed up with player X consistantly min raising in position and has chosen to take a stand, forgetting about the players behind.... Just a thought...  
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Yh I admit it would be unusual to shove with Jacks or higher but like I say I didn't fancy risking it, especially when at this level players can easily hand you their stack given enough patience.
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