Reasons being, you have been on the table for a while and they havent done this before. Do you think he is trying to steal 3bb with the all in with nothing. I think at the best your racing.
Some have made the point that there are a lot of crazy players at this level but there are some half decent players too. ;-)
I respect players at this level until they give me a reason otherwise. It doesn't usually take very long to work out the good and bad.
Wineman Small blind £0.02 £0.02 £1.60 Dudeskin8 Big blind £0.04 £0.06 £3.80 Your hole cards 10 10 X Raise £0.08 £0.14 £1.61 Y All-in £5.14 £5.28 £0.00 ARIZONA501 Fold davieboy Fold Wineman Fold Dudeskin8 Fold X Fold Y Muck Y Win £0.22 £0.22 Y Return £5.06 £0.00 £5.28 Had been on table quite a while, X always minraised into pots from any position so wasn't too worried there, but then Y who hadn't made this all-in pre move in any other hand does this. I hated folding but they seemed less crazy then the usual lot so decided to fold incase it was like JJ/QQ or maybe AK, yes i'm racing but it's not tournement poker. Was it right ? Posted by Dudeskin8
Standard call - Why would he go all in with JJ+? At worst you are against two overcards
I absolutely do not call here. Why would you want to? The players not done this before so how can you call with that information?
I understand the comments about the level. Yes, at this level players sometimes push any two. You only call with 10-10, however, when you've got that information locked up. FWIW, I calll here with QQ+.
With regards to it only been £4 or £5 I fully agree with your own approach dudeskin. I dont see it as £4 or £5 quid at all its 1 buy in. I am not gambling with this just to get information you could easily enough get just by observing for longer first.
As your grinding well, I think you understand that its important to get into good habits and calling 10-10 here just isn't IMO so I like your fold.
I absolutely do not call here. Why would you want to? The players not done this before so how can you call with that information? I understand the comments about the level. Yes, at this level players sometimes push any two. You only call with 10-10, however, when you've got that information locked up. FWIW, I calll here with QQ+. With regards to it only been £4 or £5 I fully agree with your own approach dudeskin. I dont see it as £4 or £5 quid at all its 1 buy in. I am not gambling with this just to get information you could easily enough get just by observing for longer first. As your grinding well, I think you understand that its important to get into good habits and calling 10-10 here just isn't IMO so I like your fold. Posted by JohnConnor
Cheers mate, at his level there is no need to take risks like this, and tbh even if I had a BR of 50+ BI's I'd probably still fold as your basically hoping you get it right and could be likely flipping and imo that isn't a good way to build a BR.
dont see how the thread has gone on for so long its a super easy snap fold. besides the fact that putting 120bbs in the pot when you need just under 49% equity to breakeven on it is pretty bad and full of variance as you will prob be flipping or crushed most of the time, there is also another player in the hand who minraised UTG.
what are people's calling ranges here then? I think TT is really border line here so im not bothered if i call or fold. And anyone care to assign the shover a hand range? Posted by BlackFish3
As I said, me personally, Im calling with QQ+
As for assigning him a range I'm not going to bother with a player who makes this move out of the blue. If forced on the issue, I would say one of the top 169 starting hands :-)
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Reasons being, you have been on the table for a while and they havent done this before. Do you think he is trying to steal 3bb with the all in with nothing. I think at the best your racing.
Some have made the point that there are a lot of crazy players at this level but there are some half decent players too. ;-)
I respect players at this level until they give me a reason otherwise. It doesn't usually take very long to work out the good and bad.
Back yourself to find a better position.
I understand the comments about the level. Yes, at this level players sometimes push any two. You only call with 10-10, however, when you've got that information locked up. FWIW, I calll here with QQ+.
With regards to it only been £4 or £5 I fully agree with your own approach dudeskin. I dont see it as £4 or £5 quid at all its 1 buy in. I am not gambling with this just to get information you could easily enough get just by observing for longer first.
As your grinding well, I think you understand that its important to get into good habits and calling 10-10 here just isn't IMO so I like your fold.
dont see how the thread has gone on for so long its a super easy snap fold. besides the fact that putting 120bbs in the pot when you need just under 49% equity to breakeven on it is pretty bad and full of variance as you will prob be flipping or crushed most of the time, there is also another player in the hand who minraised UTG.
As for assigning him a range I'm not going to bother with a player who makes this move out of the blue. If forced on the issue, I would say one of the top 169 starting hands :-)