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On the topic of online riggedness
luvBWFC
Member Posts: 763
It's an ever recurring topic, and it's one that is a particular bugbear of mine and I want to take this opportunity to give my point of view.
Poker sites
In my opinion they have no reason to care who wins a particular hand of poker or tournament, as they get paid either way. I see no incentive for the sites to have coded for certain things to happen, and a huge disincentive, if it becomes public, your customer base disappears. I accept that in cash tables you can argue there is an incentive for big hands against each other to up the rake, but I still don't buy it because
Coders
Even if nefarious poker site A has got it's coders to juice up the RNG to give AA vs KK or whatever much more often, what stops the guy who coded it going public when he moves jobs or whatever. In general people are poor at keeping secrets and the number of people involved in a decision to do this, and then test it etc would be large making the secret even more vulnerable.
Instead
The fact is that you are rarely that far ahead in poker 23 os can beat AA a depressing percentage of hands, especially if going to the river.
For the sake of argument please accept that the flope turn and river are fair. Why do we hear the complaints of online being so different to brick and stone? The answer here is 2 fold.
1. more hands per hour mean you will see more "amazing" beats
2. the embarrassment factor of making a bad call is removed in online play, and the next tournament is just a click away, unlike in a casino where that may be it for the night, both points conspiring to cause more people to see a flop and the subsequent cards, thus increasing the chance of someone making their unlikely out.
It seems quite clear to me that there is no need of weird conspiracy theories to explain all of this.
Carl
Poker sites
In my opinion they have no reason to care who wins a particular hand of poker or tournament, as they get paid either way. I see no incentive for the sites to have coded for certain things to happen, and a huge disincentive, if it becomes public, your customer base disappears. I accept that in cash tables you can argue there is an incentive for big hands against each other to up the rake, but I still don't buy it because
Coders
Even if nefarious poker site A has got it's coders to juice up the RNG to give AA vs KK or whatever much more often, what stops the guy who coded it going public when he moves jobs or whatever. In general people are poor at keeping secrets and the number of people involved in a decision to do this, and then test it etc would be large making the secret even more vulnerable.
Instead
The fact is that you are rarely that far ahead in poker 23 os can beat AA a depressing percentage of hands, especially if going to the river.
For the sake of argument please accept that the flope turn and river are fair. Why do we hear the complaints of online being so different to brick and stone? The answer here is 2 fold.
1. more hands per hour mean you will see more "amazing" beats
2. the embarrassment factor of making a bad call is removed in online play, and the next tournament is just a click away, unlike in a casino where that may be it for the night, both points conspiring to cause more people to see a flop and the subsequent cards, thus increasing the chance of someone making their unlikely out.
It seems quite clear to me that there is no need of weird conspiracy theories to explain all of this.
Carl
Comments
Nope, because they make them "disappear" once they program the AA V KK.
ILUV luvBWFC.
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