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SPT Grand Final Structure

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  • mr_mbromr_mbro Member Posts: 1,152
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : Thanks Col. If that's the case, what is the etiquette for asking if I could break the 5000 into smaller denominations......at least for the first hour. :-)  I guess having fewer chips on the table encourages people to bet bigger and knock people out quicker....
    Posted by TheBouncer
    I would doubt they would do it
  • GavinxxxxGavinxxxx Member Posts: 559
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : I would doubt they would do it
    Posted by mr_mbro
    Lol i bet if you was aloud to pick your own chips, theres bound to be someone who just asks for x400 25chips
  • TheBouncerTheBouncer Member Posts: 15
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : A 10,000 start stack normally consists of; 4 x 25 4 x 100 5 x 500 7 x 1000 Mix and match depending on how many chips the club has of each denomination
    Posted by CoxyLboro
    The minimalist approach is noted, but if only 4x25 each, once the ante kicks in there's gonna be folks swapping amongst themselves or asking for change from the pot! Ok some people will be out by that stage and those remaining will have more than 4 on average! Personally I would be a bit worried if a casino did not have sufficient supply of chips to go around, yes I understand that there will be 200 of us but this is a professional joint right? (rhetorical question). Maybe there is a nearby chip shop, mines a spam fritter if anyone's going there......please excuse my warped sense of humour...... :-)
  • mr_mbromr_mbro Member Posts: 1,152
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : The minimalist approach is noted, but if only 4x25 each, once the ante kicks in there's gonna be folks swapping amongst themselves or asking for change from the pot! Ok some people will be out by that stage and those remaining will have more than 4 on average! Personally I would be a bit worried if a casino did not have sufficient supply of chips to go around, yes I understand that there will be 200 of us but this is a professional joint right? (rhetorical question). Maybe there is a nearby chip shop, mines a spam fritter if anyone's going there......please excuse my warped sense of humour...... :-)
    Posted by TheBouncer
    Hi

    I wouldnt worry m8, this is THE most professional card room ive been in(and ive been to some of the big uns in vegas). Yes there is a certain amount of chip changing on the tables but thats part of the dealers job as well and with the spirit of the tourney NO ONE refuses. DTD has 40 odd tables and run some BIG events.

    I think the main reason is that the more smaller denomination chips that are in play impacts the amount of space required on the tables, it is easier, for the dealer and other players to identifiy the size of bets or pots.

    col
  • AmarieAmarie Member Posts: 448
    edited August 2010
    Pardon my ignorance if this is an obvious question but... why are there two levels at 100/200

    Thanks
  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    Pardon my ignorance if this is an obvious question but... why are there two levels at 100/200 Thanks
    Posted by Amarie
    Its the start level for the antes mum

    100/200 level then 100/200/25, turns a good structure into a great structure!!

    Dave
  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : The minimalist approach is noted, but if only 4x25 each, once the ante kicks in there's gonna be folks swapping amongst themselves or asking for change from the pot! Ok some people will be out by that stage and those remaining will have more than 4 on average! Personally I would be a bit worried if a casino did not have sufficient supply of chips to go around, yes I understand that there will be 200 of us but this is a professional joint right? (rhetorical question). Maybe there is a nearby chip shop, mines a spam fritter if anyone's going there......please excuse my warped sense of humour...... :-)
    Posted by TheBouncer
    Dont worry about the chip quantity/value. As Col said its the dealers job to give "change" when needed. As far as running out of chips goes, LOL don't worry about that, DTD probably have enough chips to cover their card room 3 times over.

    2 bits of advice I would give you as a newbie.

    1. If you get into a big hand or potentially a big hand with another player ask them how many chips they have, it can easily be disguised by having 2 or 3 big denomination chips or alot of 25's etc etc.

    2. ALWAYS verbally say what you are going to do, whether it is raise/call. If the bet is 100 and you want to raise to 500 and just put a 500 chip in that counts as a CALL only, because you have put 1 chip in and not said raise. Also on the other side if you do just want to call and need change, make it clear to the dealer you are only calling the bet.

    Goodluck, you will enjoy it... remember don't act out of turn and say what your going to do or you may be shot. (by Tikay)
  • AmarieAmarie Member Posts: 448
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : Its the start level for the antes mum 100/200 level then 100/200/25, turns a good structure into a great structure!! Dave
    Posted by SolarCarro
    see jamielou i told you that was why - soooo obvious!!

    Thanks Dave

    See you in Nottingham
  • jamieloujamielou Member Posts: 232
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : see jamielou i told you that was why - soooo obvious!! Thanks Dave See you in Nottingham
    Posted by Amarie
    Yes mother, that's what it was! Oh silly me! lol

    See you in NOOTingham?
  • TheBouncerTheBouncer Member Posts: 15
    edited August 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure : Dont worry about the chip quantity/value. As Col said its the dealers job to give "change" when needed. As far as running out of chips goes, LOL don't worry about that, DTD probably have enough chips to cover their card room 3 times over. 2 bits of advice I would give you as a newbie. 1. If you get into a big hand or potentially a big hand with another player ask them how many chips they have, it can easily be disguised by having 2 or 3 big denomination chips or alot of 25's etc etc. 2. ALWAYS verbally say what you are going to do, whether it is raise/call. If the bet is 100 and you want to raise to 500 and just put a 500 chip in that counts as a CALL only, because you have put 1 chip in and not said raise. Also on the other side if you do just want to call and need change, make it clear to the dealer you are only calling the bet. Goodluck, you will enjoy it... remember don't act out of turn and say what your going to do or you may be shot. (by Tikay)
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Thanks for the helpful advice Flash. I did read about the call with the large value chip on the DTD rules if you dont verbally say otherwise, it was certainly a new one on me. I'm usually pretty vocal in games with mates at home so am confident I'll speak up appropriately as required and hopefully will not make any faux pas.

    As a random aside, I uploaded a cartoon image of my name "TheBouncer" on my profile a few days ago but I have just noticed that the Sky software has nicely cropped the edges of the my image so it now looks like it says "Dunce"......maybe that is an omen for my live appearance :-s
  • KaidusKaidus Member Posts: 159
    edited September 2010
    Chip stacks at DTD are normally as follows for a 10k allocation:

    8x25 = 200
    8x100 = 800
    4x500 = 2000
    7x1000 = 7000

    I think. Going off memory. I'm updating the DTD deepstack this weekend with SPT for the other place so I'll make a note then and get back to you lot.
  • TheBouncerTheBouncer Member Posts: 15
    edited September 2010
    Another question, yes i know I keep asking them, but I am curious, no not like that, doh I'll get my coat.
    How is the player table seating allocation determined at the start? Is it completely random (computer, balls out of bag a la FA Cup draw) or is there some form of seeding going on where Sky derive intel. from site player data on who is known to be be a good player and thus mix tables with a spread of abilities. In either of the above I am guessing that the few celebrities will be scattered around rather than have them on the same table at the start.

    Thanks - am looking forward to a great social event

  • EyemanEyeman Member Posts: 1,039
    edited September 2010
    Totally random as far as I know. There might be a scheme to split the celebs, but that's all.
  • SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: SPT Grand Final Structure:
    Another question, yes i know I keep asking them, but I am curious, no not like that, doh I'll get my coat. How is the player table seating allocation determined at the start? Is it completely random (computer, balls out of bag a la FA Cup draw) or is there some form of seeding going on where Sky derive intel. from site player data on who is known to be be a good player and thus mix tables with a spread of abilities. In either of the above I am guessing that the few celebrities will be scattered around rather than have them on the same table at the start. Thanks - am looking forward to a great social event
    Posted by TheBouncer

    Seat draws at live events, in licenced venues, are completely random. They have to be under UK gaming commission rules.If that means you get sat next to your Mrs, or 10 celebrities on the same table, so be it!
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