In Response to Re: telling cards b4 the hand is over : I side-stepped the question with good reason - I never had sufficient facts to hand to make a proper judgement, so I decided the best course of action was to say nothing. A Hand-History was requested, but never materialised. The fact is, we don't KNOW if the speech-play was improper or not on the evidence we have before us. The Rules on speech-play can be quite complex, because the dynamics can vary so. Heads-Up, it's completely normal (though not something I would do) to confuse your oppo with speech-play. I gave some very good advice though (well I thought it was good advice!) about speech play. I said that no poker player should EVER listen to what another player says in a hand. And if they follow that advice, speech play is never going to be a problem, is it? Really, the whole thing got a bit out of hand, & lost perspective. Posted by Tikay10
RIGHT IF YOUR ALOUD TO SAY YOUR CARDS THEN PLAYERS CAN GET ON THE SAME TABLE TELL EACH OTHER WHAT THEY GOT AND TO ME THATS COLLUDING Posted by lucky77777
use ur nogging!! So your trying to say you cant tell your cards??? what about if the flop comes down 10 10 10 and i have pocket 2's in my hand is it against the rules to tell him i have a ten? U got a bad beat and took it badly! And i see your still playing on this site so it cant be that bad. People like you make me laugh this is a forum to have a general chat about poker on, u come on here putting the villans name on show and trying to make him look bad! Im glad everyone has set u str8!
From now on how about turn off the chat box and by the way im going to come and sit next to u now and tell u everyhand i have!
yes speech in a game of poker, hmmm i wonder if u hold a king that speech is ok or i reckon i have the nuts u wanna call me eh or hmmm we could be both holding a ten but i winder whats your kicker to whom that player he is speeching with may not even reply all this kind of speech is fine
Im refering to 'speech play' that you're berating.
I've seen many televised tournaments, and cash games where a played will announce exactly what he is, you can this on the evidence i provided, the WSOP 2006 main event, and series four of high stakes poker. Jamie Gold, and Sam Farha, use this kind of speech play a great deal.
You should look for a very good article by Daniel Negranu on why banning a players right to show his two hole cards in poker while heads up, and still in play is an absolutely absurd idea.
As this is of course virtually idetical to the speech play in announcing your two cards that you are refering to.
Im refering to 'speech play' that you're berating. I've seen many televised tournaments, and cash games where a played will announce exactly what he is, you can this on the evidence i provided, the WSOP 2006 main event, and series four of high stakes poker. Jamie Gold, and Sam Farha, use this kind of speech play a great deal. You should look for a very good article by Daniel Negranu on why banning a players right to show his two hole cards in poker while heads up, and still in play is an absolutely absurd idea. As this is of course virtually idetical to the speech play in announcing your two cards that you are refering to. Posted by SNOWY37
ill tell u what y dont u enail sky see what they say mouth
When you post on a open forum like this, you really should be more prepared to listen, and except peoples views, and opinions.
I think Sky need to post their opinion on this. The views are clearly split, therefor clarification is needed. I just hope its not the stupid decision i fear.
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lucky mate the longer you stew about it the more it will show in your game best thing to do is just let it go
yes ok it might of been wrong to say his hand but its over with man just move on mate
gl at the tables
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-SpfyKn96Y&feature=related
it must be good news--
so theres no need--
enjoy--
sky mods please close this thread...
NOT making statements or taking action that could unfairly influence the course of play, whether or not the offender is involved in the pot.
bed for me now-- to the batcave
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From now on how about turn off the chat box and by the way im going to come and sit next to u now and tell u everyhand i have!
Kind regards
Batkini
I'd be very shocked if SKY said this was a breach of rules and would pursue anyone that does this.
It would be completly shocking to me if they say this is not accepted. Speech is very much a part of poker, it always has been, and always will be.
proof to this ; off the top of my head, watch the 2006 wsop main event, or series four of high stakes poker.
Im refering to 'speech play' that you're berating.
I've seen many televised tournaments, and cash games where a played will announce exactly what he is, you can this on the evidence i provided, the WSOP 2006 main event, and series four of high stakes poker. Jamie Gold, and Sam Farha, use this kind of speech play a great deal.
You should look for a very good article by Daniel Negranu on why banning a players right to show his two hole cards in poker while heads up, and still in play is an absolutely absurd idea.
As this is of course virtually idetical to the speech play in announcing your two cards that you are refering to.
When you post on a open forum like this, you really should be more prepared to listen, and except peoples views, and opinions.
I think Sky need to post their opinion on this. The views are clearly split, therefor clarification is needed. I just hope its not the stupid decision i fear.