I think that the final at DTD ought to be qualify only. I would accept that DTD should have the right to run a sat like they did the day before the event, but I think a direct buy-in should be avoided. Everyone I spoke to at the evnt that were DTD regulars stated that they never play on the site, but joined up to buy in. By making it qualify only, I cans ee that many regulars might not make it, but it will encourage more poker play on the site - surely a win/win.
If the competition is capped then imo there shouldn't be direct buy ins at the last minute however i'm all for larger fields and bigger prize monies so gogogogo!!!
In Response to Re: SPT 2010-11 Discussion thread : The final feature table is all ready for transmission yes, absolutely no (or not many ) reasons why Sky couldn't get a feed up of the final table and then have the FT repeated throughout the year etc. Could also have a 'feature' table throughout the comp on a live stream imo :-) another site which has started streaming tables with no hole cards has found it to be extremely successful with lots of people logging in to watch! You've already got the qualitaaaaay analysts for the job, lots of options for bringing in sky players 'to the booth' etc Posted by beaneh
Excellent idea!...
Don't forget you promised me a lend of that book when your done )
What are the chances of having qualifying packages. For example say a £250 package to give enough money for 1 nights hotel and petrol money. Could have these once a week say on a sunday and make it a deep stack. £25+£2.50 so 1 in 10 win package?
Reading through this there are some top ideas, especially the feature table...The International Poker Room in London has one on there website too. Works well.
Personally prefer the 1 in 5 sats to the 1 in 10. The petrol money and hotel idea is good in theory but then depending on where the winner lived would depend on how much the petrol money would cost so could end up being a lot of money.
In Response to Re: SPT 2010-11 Discussion thread : Excellent idea!... Don't forget you promised me a lend of that book when your done ) x Posted by TRIP5
ah I can put two and two together you're the lady on the rail talking to jaeger who took my book!! Right wondered who you were you seemed to know who I was lol :-)
In Response to Re: SPT 2010-11 Discussion thread : ah I can put two and two together you're the lady on the rail talking to jaeger who took my book!! Right wondered who you were you seemed to know who I was lol :-) I finished longitude on the saturday where do you want it posted?! Posted by beaneh
captain knight trippy at your service sir...it was a pleasure to meet you...for me the best bit of the weekend was putting faces to forumers which is probably why i seemed a little cuckoo...not that i'm saying i'm not or anything:o)
In Response to Re: SPT 2010-11 Discussion thread : captain knight trippy at your service sir...it was a pleasure to meet you...for me the best bit of the weekend was putting faces to forumers which is probably why i seemed a little cuckoo...not that i'm saying i'm not or anything:o) cuckoo that is... i will pm you cheers dear x Posted by TRIP5
haha it's cool, people weren't as annoyed by me as i'd usually expect so that's all good :-)
fwiw I bought a 10 book series called 'stranger than fiction' for a tenner and longitude/fermats last theorem were all part of it. Best tenner i've spent in a long time. if you really want though I can nick a stamp from downstairs and send you my copy but I'd want it back!!!! (first class post obv!)
Good idea,but if sky booked the hotel and just give spending money,all the winners could be in the same hotel Must have bar that stays open late of course .
What are the chances of having qualifying packages. For example say a £250 package to give enough
money for 1 nights hotel and petrol money. Could have these once a week say on a sunday and make it a deep stack. £25+£2.50 so 1 in 10 win package? Anyone else be interested in this? Posted by BIGSHANN
What are the chances of having qualifying packages. For example say a £250 package to give enough money for 1 nights hotel and petrol money. Could have these once a week say on a sunday and make it a deep stack. £25+£2.50 so 1 in 10 win package? Anyone else be interested in this? Posted by BIGSHANN
+1 no petrol.just rail or coach ticket as i would be over the dd limit.del
I am considering adding 150-300/25 in between 150-300 and 200-400/25. 250-500 isn't a level in UK live tournaments. In my opinion adding 150-300/25 is better than 75-150, but .... Will advise when that has been run past the powers that be All feeback on this welcomed, and I can pass it on.... The issue isn't that Sky staff won't stay longer!! tikay is Mr Duracell and I'm Ever Ready (cheaper and less reliable than duracell) Posted by SPT
i think we need that extra level in the legs as the last few have finished quite early,it seems you can sit tihjt for a bit then all of a sudden you only have 9bb's.i know its a long day for the crew though,so maybe aim for a 1am finish?(i think tkshould still be able to get his cocoa by then)
also you said the legs will be qualify only but then said they all had alternates?
Other posters have mentioned the desire to get more regular players and to encourage qualifying rather than direct buy-in. For the Final I will admit that i played 1 qualifier, then decided just to bite the bullet and buy-in direct, since I really wanted to play and didnt have the bank roll to play 15+ qualifiers in a short (couple of months, was it?) period.
However if a league situation was set up, I would be happier to pay a regular amount to play qualifiers with a points based system for results in each game.
I've done some quick Excel wizadry at no consultancy charge to Sky..... Let's assume that there are say 25 online qualifier rounds between now and the final next year (one a fortnight if you started now), £10 +£1 each time. There are 700 total "regular" players for which in any one qualifier 200 pay to play that round. At the end of 25 rounds this gives Sky the equivalent buy in of 160 places at £250. Say that the top 150 in the league standings go straight through to the Final. Then say those ranked 151-300 get to play a free lucky loser 1:10 satellite to get the next 15 places. I think that more than 200 would pay each round, an average of 300 would generate 200 places, thus if more than 300 was the average each round the pot for the final could grow really nicely (if league places capped at 200max), and/or hotel and travel package deals could be thrown in as 1:10 specials
Of course top up the total numbers of players and pot by having 1:5, 1:10 satellites nearer the time as per this year, which keeps those not wishing to play a league happy and new players to Sky who join in say 6 months time and miss the early rounds an opportunity. Of course non regular/site players getting either direct buy-in last minute online/at the casino, but by then much fewer places would be available this way?
Trick is to not have too many qualifiers at too high a buy-in so that only those with large bank roll play everytime and accumulate most points. With 25 rounds x£10 per qualifier I am sure that most of us will feel that we are in with a good shot of making it (better than 1:10 percieved odds). This league model could also work for all of the SPT Events, if say there were 10 league games, albeit a bigger buy-in required.
OK, so what does everything think of that? PS for the Sky team - having a league structure works really well for your cashflow :-)
All legs will have alternates yes, in line with any other live event.
No direct entries before the day, then last chance sng live satellite on the day if seats available, then alternates for the first 2-3 levels as players get knocked out
Other posters have mentioned the desire to get more regular players and to encourage qualifying rather than direct buy-in. For the Final I will admit that i played 1 qualifier, then decided just to bite the bullet and buy-in direct, since I really wanted to play and didnt have the bank roll to play 15+ qualifiers in a short (couple of months, was it?) period. However if a league situation was set up, I would be happier to pay a regular amount to play qualifiers with a points based system for results in each game. I've done some quick Excel wizadry at no consultancy charge to Sky..... Let's assume that there are say 25 online qualifier rounds between now and the final next year (one a fortnight if you started now), £10 +£1 each time. There are 700 total "regular" players for which in any one qualifier 200 pay to play that round. At the end of 25 rounds this gives Sky the equivalent buy in of 160 places at £250. Say that the top 150 in the league standings go straight through to the Final. Then say those ranked 151-300 get to play a free lucky loser 1:10 satellite to get the next 15 places. I think that more than 200 would pay each round, an average of 300 would generate 200 places, thus if more than 300 was the average each round the pot for the final could grow really nicely (if league places capped at 200max), and/or hotel and travel package deals could be thrown in as 1:10 specials Of course top up the total numbers of players and pot by having 1:5, 1:10 satellites nearer the time as per this year, which keeps those not wishing to play a league happy and new players to Sky who join in say 6 months time and miss the early rounds an opportunity. Of course non regular/site players getting either direct buy-in last minute online/at the casino, but by then much fewer places would be available this way? Trick is to not have too many qualifiers at too high a buy-in so that only those with large bank roll play everytime and accumulate most points. With 25 rounds x£10 per qualifier I am sure that most of us will feel that we are in with a good shot of making it (better than 1:10 percieved odds). This league model could also work for all of the SPT Events, if say there were 10 league games, albeit a bigger buy-in required. OK, so what does everything think of that? PS for the Sky team - having a league structure works really well for your cashflow :-) Posted by TheBouncer
er, very nice, but very complicated!
I would imagine qualifying would stay as is for the time being..expecting most legs to sell out in advance via the exisiting qualfying system
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Don't forget you promised me a lend of that book when your done
x
cuckoo that is...
i will pm you
cheers dear x
+1 cos i wouldnt be playing if they were rebuys and really want in this one
Good idea,but if sky booked the hotel and just give spending money,all the winners could be in the same hotel
Must have bar that stays open late of course
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also you said the legs will be qualify only but then said they all had alternates?
cheers,dave
However if a league situation was set up, I would be happier to pay a regular amount to play qualifiers with a points based system for results in each game.
I've done some quick Excel wizadry at no consultancy charge to Sky..... Let's assume that there are say 25 online qualifier rounds between now and the final next year (one a fortnight if you started now), £10 +£1 each time. There are 700 total "regular" players for which in any one qualifier 200 pay to play that round. At the end of 25 rounds this gives Sky the equivalent buy in of 160 places at £250. Say that the top 150 in the league standings go straight through to the Final. Then say those ranked 151-300 get to play a free lucky loser 1:10 satellite to get the next 15 places. I think that more than 200 would pay each round, an average of 300 would generate 200 places, thus if more than 300 was the average each round the pot for the final could grow really nicely (if league places capped at 200max), and/or hotel and travel package deals could be thrown in as 1:10 specials
Of course top up the total numbers of players and pot by having 1:5, 1:10 satellites nearer the time as per this year, which keeps those not wishing to play a league happy and new players to Sky who join in say 6 months time and miss the early rounds an opportunity. Of course non regular/site players getting either direct buy-in last minute online/at the casino, but by then much fewer places would be available this way?
Trick is to not have too many qualifiers at too high a buy-in so that only those with large bank roll play everytime and accumulate most points. With 25 rounds x£10 per qualifier I am sure that most of us will feel that we are in with a good shot of making it (better than 1:10 percieved odds). This league model could also work for all of the SPT Events, if say there were 10 league games, albeit a bigger buy-in required.
OK, so what does everything think of that?
PS for the Sky team - having a league structure works really well for your cashflow :-)
No direct entries before the day, then last chance sng live satellite on the day if seats available, then alternates for the first 2-3 levels as players get knocked out
er, very nice, but very complicated!
I would imagine qualifying would stay as is for the time being..expecting most legs to sell out in advance via the exisiting qualfying system