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Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!

PayOffWizaPayOffWiza Member Posts: 8
edited September 2010 in Poker Chat

Hi All..


Ante's in cash games, yes... Sky needs them :)


I think sky should seriously look into it.... Iv been a regular on sky for about a yr now. Since then Iv noticed an increase of players just nitting it up from 30nl-100nl (especially @ 50nl)


I feel introducing tables with ante's will add another dimension to the game. In turn make a better and overall more enjoyble game for everyone! Not to mention the spike in profit margines.

What are your views on this?

And who would I have to talk to about this to find out if sky would look into this?!



Peace....... Pay off Wizard

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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited September 2010
    + bout tree fiddy
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,942
    edited September 2010

    Hi Wiza,

    As I explained in my reply to your PM (which exactly mirrored your Post above) Antes are not applicable to Cash Games, here or anywhere else, nor will they ever be. Running Antes only apply to Tournaments, & only certain Tournaments at that.

    I'm not entirely sure what problem you are trying to solve, to be honest. If players "nitting up" troubles you, just increase your pre-flop aggression.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2010

    This made me laugh !

    Wiza is the biggest nit in the world !!!   :)


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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    Hi Wiza, As I explained in my reply to your PM (which exactly mirrored your Post above) Antes are not applicable to Cash Games, here or anywhere else, nor will they ever be. Running Antes only apply to Tournaments, & only certain Tournaments at that. I'm not entirely sure what problem you are trying to solve, to be honest. If players "nitting up" troubles you, just increase your pre-flop aggression.
    Posted by Tikay10
    There are ante tables on some other sites. I've heard the future of poker is ante cash tables then PLO. I think that came from dwan in an interview in one of the durrrr challenge interviews with him.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited September 2010
    Dwan talks about his wish for ante games in the future:


    He got his wish, but I don't think the tables are very popular yet.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,942
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    Dwan talks about his wish for ante games in the future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYsPBXnb5sM He got his wish, but I don't think the tables are very popular yet.
    Posted by BlackFish3
    I wonder why......

    I was not aware of that, & can't really fathom how it's gonna be sustainable for regular players, all things considered.

    Why on earth would they want it? If NLH does not hve sufficient buzz or action, they should try a game with more subtlety - say Pot Limit Hold Em, or Omaha.  
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  • kirstiikirstii Member Posts: 787
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    Hi All.. Ante's in cash games, yes... Sky needs them :) I think sky should seriously look into it.... Iv been a regular on sky for about a yr now. Since then Iv noticed an increase of players just nitting it up from 30nl-100nl (especially @ 50nl) I feel introducing tables with ante's will add another dimension to the game. In turn make a better and overall more enjoyble game for everyone! Not to mention the spike in profit margines. What are your views on this? And who would I have to talk to about this to find out if sky would look into this?! Peace....... Pay off Wizard
    Posted by PayOffWiza
    And where was my name check Wiza?? I'm not angry just dissapointed.
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  • BlackFish3BlackFish3 Member Posts: 2,418
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : I wonder why...... I was not aware of that, & can't really fathom how it's gonna be sustainable for regular players, all things considered. Why on earth would they want it? If NLH does not hve sufficient buzz or action, they should try a game with more subtlety - say Pot Limit Hold Em, or Omaha.  
    Posted by Tikay10
    Lol not for me personally I would rather just nit it up. I guess the high stakes players always want more and more action and the rest of the poker world follows, hence the PLO boom. The low stakes NLH ante games are generally empty tables though from what I've seen.
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  • PayOffWizaPayOffWiza Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    This made me laugh ! Wiza is the biggest nit in the world !!!   :)
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    LOL! difference in being a nit and playing abc my friend...





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  • PayOffWizaPayOffWiza Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    In Response to Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : And where was my name check Wiza?? I'm not angry just dissapointed.
    Posted by kirstii
    My Apologise Kirstii... I should of mentioned it was your suggestion to post my (and apparently dwans) ante idea to the sky forum. Probably best as the idea doesnt seem to be going down well!
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  • PayOffWizaPayOffWiza Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    Hi Wiza, As I explained in my reply to your PM (which exactly mirrored your Post above) Antes are not applicable to Cash Games, here or anywhere else, nor will they ever be. Running Antes only apply to Tournaments, & only certain Tournaments at that. I'm not entirely sure what problem you are trying to solve, to be honest. If players "nitting up" troubles you, just increase your pre-flop aggression.
    Posted by Tikay10

    Thanks for your reply Tikay.

    No, there is no real problem im trying to solve. Merely suggesting a little something extra to the game, more incentive if you will.

    I see you clearly strongly against the concept which is fine, your entilted to your opinion. But I would be intrested to see what new type of action it may create if a few of these table were dotted around 10nl-200nl.

    I mean, how can we actually know if its not going to work if we simply discard the concept just because 'it has not been applicable to Cash Game poker in the past'.... thats just my opinion on the matter...


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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,942
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : Thanks for your reply Tikay. No, there is no real problem im trying to solve. Merely suggesting a little something extra to the game, more incentive if you will. I see you clearly strongly against the concept which is fine, your entilted to your opinion. But I would be intrested to see what new type of action it may create if a few of these table were dotted around 10nl-200nl. I mean, how can we actually know if its not going to work if we simply discard the concept just because 'it has not been applicable to Cash Game poker in the past'.... thats just my opinion on the matter...
    Posted by PayOffWiza
    Absolutely, & a very fine opinion it is. I happen to hold the opposite view, that's all.

    Don't forget, the vast majority of Cash Action on Sky Poker is 6 max, too, which by it's very nature, generates more action, & requires more frequent (50% more?) Posting of blinds than 9 or 10 Seaters.

    "More incentive" if there are RA's? Have you ever watched lJAMESl, Lolufold, Dohhh, TheGibb, CoxyLBoro - they don't need "incentive", they just raise!

     
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2010
    terrible idea, why would anyone willingly post antes in a ring game when they dont have to? to gurantee them action i dont think its necessary really

    back to the drawing board wiza
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited September 2010
    errrr poker has forced bets


    antes are a slightly different structure of forced bets, they are fun and stop people from being able to sit and fold too much.


    each to their own.
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  • DAVEYZZDAVEYZZ Member Posts: 1,651
    edited September 2010
    i dont know why people who struggle at a certain level/style of game want to change the rules all of a sudden? "i dont like sit outs,i dont like nits"

    if you cant beat them within the current rules move down a level?

    (there, i said it for you tk.........)
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  • PayOffWizaPayOffWiza Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    i dont know why people who struggle at a certain level/style of game want to change the rules all of a sudden? "i dont like sit outs,i dont like nits" if you cant beat them within the current rules move down a level? (there, i said it for you tk.........)
    Posted by DAVEYZZ

    Just to reilliterate myself... "I think a cash game with ante's would add a different dimension to the game. I think it would be something new, fun and different aspect of the game. I would love to see sky put a few tables up and see how it develops. What is the sky poker communities opinions on this?."

    This is basically what iv said in a nutshell!!

    Not anywhere have I said or intentionally implyed 'Im having problems at my stakes so i want to change the rules. I want ante cash games because I hate nits or hate people who sit out'.

    It seems that most people implying 'the problem is my poker game and having an ante cash game isnt going to make any difference'. Which is Totally off the point!

    DAVEYZZ, you know nothing about me or my poker game. So if you cant say anything constructive or at least respectful to this thread, Id rather you stay out.

    Thanks
     
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2010
    oooooooooo handbags! as you say your entitled to your opinion but as are we and i think your idea sucks and will never take off but not me who makes the decisions

    Good Luck
    John
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2010

    I didn't give an opinion on the idea, I think it wud be kool, and fun, providing the table isn't always full of good regular players at each level.

    Most cash games below nl50 have 2/3 limpers minimum before the action gets to the blinds, so there's always sorta ded money in the pot anyway.

    If the tables were brought in, I would play them...............But only if the table looks soft.

    Wouldn't go out of my way to play on it otherwise.
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  • PayOffWizaPayOffWiza Member Posts: 8
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    oooooooooo handbags! as you say your entitled to your opinion but as are we and i think your idea sucks and will never take off but not me who makes the decisions Good Luck John
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    No handbags lol... yeah your defo right about it never taking off! might start a new discussion on sky introducing voluntary straddles =P
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 169,942
    edited September 2010
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games!:
    In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : Just to reilliterate myself... "I think a cash game with ante's would add a different dimension to the game. I think it would be something new, fun and different aspect of the game. I would love to see sky put a few tables up and see how it develops. What is the sky poker communities opinions on this?." This is basically what iv said in a nutshell!! Not anywhere have I said or intentionally implyed 'Im having problems at my stakes so i want to change the rules. I want ante cash games because I hate nits or hate people who sit out'. It seems that most people implying 'the problem is my poker game and having an ante cash game isnt going to make any difference'. Which is Totally off the point! DAVEYZZ , you know nothing about me or my poker game. So if you cant say anything constructive or at least respectful to this thread, Id rather you stay out. Thanks  
    Posted by PayOffWiza
    I trust I'm excluded from that?

    You wrote me a PM, I answered it promptly, & then you repeated the PM, word for word, in a Forum Post, so I replied to that, too. You asked a question, I answered it!

    With due respect, it's a Forum, & if you post views & opinions, & invite replies, you will get exactly that. It's highly unlikely that all of them will agree with you though, is it?

    It'd be kinda nice if we could keep the thread civil, too, & DaveyZZ has every right to voice an opinion, just as you & I have. 
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