Hi All.. Ante's in cash games, yes... Sky needs them I think sky should seriously look into it.... Iv been a regular on sky for about a yr now. Since then Iv noticed an increase of players just nitting it up from 30nl-100nl (especially @ 50nl) I feel introducing tables with ante's will add another dimension to the game. In turn make a better and overall more enjoyble game for everyone! Not to mention the spike in profit margines. What are your views on this? And who would I have to talk to about this to find out if sky would look into this?! Peace....... Pay off Wizard Posted by PayOffWiza
oops didnt mean to offend...but the comment of players nitting it up,made me think you were being negative about a certain style of play?. i just dont see the need of changing the rules of cash nlh to include ante's if you want bigger pots/more action there are plenty of players playing at £1-£2 who are always willing to accommodate...
In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : I trust I'm excluded from that? You wrote me a PM, I answered it promptly, & then you repeated the PM, word for word, in a Forum Post, so I replied to that, too. You asked a question, I answered it! With due respect, it's a Forum, & if you post views & opinions, & invite replies, you will get exactly that. It's highly unlikely that all of them will agree with you though, is it? It'd be kinda nice if we could keep the thread civil, too, & DaveyZZ has every right to voice an opinion, just as you & I have. Posted by Tikay10
apologies to you tk as well,my answer was slightly tongue in cheek,but i dont presume to know what you were thinking......dave
In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : apologies to you tk as well,my answer was slightly tongue in cheek,but i dont presume to know what you were thinking......dave Posted by DAVEYZZ
Not necessary Dave (the apology), I know you well enough to know it was tongue-in-cheek.
And you know I'm a Nit, always have been, always will be, & remarkable as it may seem, I'm not in the least embarrassed about it. It works for me, so it won't be changing any time soon, & I'll continue to do what I've always done - enter pots on my Terms, when it suits me, & not according to current fashion.
In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : Just to reilliterate myself... "I think a cash game with ante's would add a different dimension to the game. I think it would be something new, fun and different aspect of the game. I would love to see sky put a few tables up and see how it develops. What is the sky poker communities opinions on this?." This is basically what iv said in a nutshell!! Not anywhere have I said or intentionally implyed 'Im having problems at my stakes so i want to change the rules. I want ante cash games because I hate nits or hate people who sit out'. It seems that most people implying 'the problem is my poker game and having an ante cash game isnt going to make any difference'. Which is Totally off the point! DAVEYZZ , you know nothing about me or my poker game. So if you cant say anything constructive or at least respectful to this thread, Id rather you stay out. Thanks Posted by PayOffWiza
We know something about you and our poker game, You hate nits. Being a Nit, or a tight player, or a Rock whatever you want to call that playing style is a perfectly acceptable way of playing the game.
There are some extremely successful "Nits" out there, but because you don't like that playing style you want to change the make up of the game to make it more difficult for that playing style to succeed. The beauty of this game is it can be played in an almost infinite number of ways, changing it to reduce the number of styles that can play it would weaken the beauty of the game..... in my opinion
jockBMW you might want to reread his posts, that section is in quote marks of what he HAS NOT said.
basically antes mean more postflop play which is fun for me. it also means more rake for sky if more flops are seen which is fun for sky.
if you watch most of the high stakes cash games on TV PAD / HSP to name a couple all have antes involved so its clearly not just a tournament thing
if people prefer playing w/o antes so they dont have to start playing more marginal hands that is fine, they obv dont have to sit at the tables, all the OP is saying is add 1 or 2 tables per stakes with antes included and see how it goes
jockBMW you might want to reread his posts, that section is in quote marks of what he HAS NOT said. basically antes mean more postflop play which is fun for me. it also means more rake for sky if more flops are seen which is fun for sky. if you watch most of the high stakes cash games on TV PAD / HSP to name a couple all have antes involved so its clearly not just a tournament thing if people prefer playing w/o antes so they dont have to start playing more marginal hands that is fine, they obv dont have to sit at the tables, all the OP is saying is add 1 or 2 tables per stakes with antes included and see how it goes Posted by LOL_RAISE
I was about to say that most of the high stakes cash games have antes (as seen on TV).
In 'The Big Game' (six-max NLHE cash show, aired on Fox in the US), the blinds are $200/$400 with a $100 ante - which is always posted by the button. So, the player in the best position at the table always has $600 invested in the pot. This creates a very interesting dynamic!
In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : I was about to say that most of the high stakes cash games have antes (as seen on TV). In 'The Big Game' (six-max NLHE cash show, aired on Fox in the US), the blinds are $200/$400 with a $100 ante - which is always posted by the button. So, the player in the best position at the table always has $600 invested in the pot. This creates a very interesting dynamic! Posted by J-Hartigan
Dont encourage him James, no-one would want to pay antes when you dont have to unless you get alot of fish on the table which i doubt it!
In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : Dont encourage him James, no-one would want to pay antes when you dont have to unless you get alot of fish on the table which i doubt it! Posted by YOUNG_GUN
I have to say...
I think it would be interesting to see a mid-stakes cash table with antes and/or the ability to straddle. The action junkies would love it!
In Response to Re: Introduction of Ante's in NLH Cash Games! : Dont encourage him James, no-one would want to pay antes when you dont have to unless you get alot of fish on the table which i doubt it! Posted by YOUNG_GUN
Im not sure about this - if every table had forced antes, do you think people wud stop playing? I don't....
....blinds are antes arent they?
Imagine a cash game without blinds......
Ugh I know some people that would love it, which makes me hate the idea even more.
Maybe this is just the next step to keep the game moving forward.
Thats the thing JJ, you have blinds in NLH therefore especially 6 handed its not worth having antes. If they had ante only tables i think less people would play unless it was instead of rake which is a totally different matter
It would be interesting if you had the odd table maybe but dont think it would be popular, as for cash game without blinds that probably would be more but would be dull to say the least lol
Surely Nits shouldnt bother you tooo much, same as loose players you just adapt? i tend to play nitish sometimes and then loose others whatever suits or whatever the mood so to speak
And playing a cash game without any forced bets would be more that just boring lol. People would just never play any hand other than aces because they'd be no incentive to do otherwise.
Surely Nits shouldnt bother you tooo much, same as loose players you just adapt? i tend to play nitish sometimes and then loose others whatever suits or whatever the mood so to speak Posted by YOUNG_GUN
You can adapt but its just so boring. I'd take a table full of maniacs any day!
Thats the thing JJ, you have blinds in NLH therefore especially 6 handed its not worth having antes. If they had ante only tables i think less people would play unless it was instead of rake which is a totally different matter It would be interesting if you had the odd table maybe but dont think it would be popular, as for cash game without blinds that probably would be more but would be dull to say the least lol Posted by YOUNG_GUN
cash games without blinds would be ridic, cash games with antes are excellent fun!!!
Im surprised the nits aint contributed here in favour of antes. Surely the looser a table is playing, the more effective their style of play will be. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I don't think so, if they still only play a very narrow range of hands then surely they wouldn't make enough money from these hands to cover the cost of posting the blinds/antes together? If you have a table of good LAGs and 'good' nits then the antes would deffo favour the LAGs as players have to play a wider range!
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i just dont see the need of changing the rules of cash nlh to include ante's if you want bigger pots/more action there are plenty of players playing at £1-£2 who are always willing to accommodate...
cheers,dave
And you know I'm a Nit, always have been, always will be, & remarkable as it may seem, I'm not in the least embarrassed about it. It works for me, so it won't be changing any time soon, & I'll continue to do what I've always done - enter pots on my Terms, when it suits me, & not according to current fashion.
basically antes mean more postflop play which is fun for me. it also means more rake for sky if more flops are seen which is fun for sky.
if you watch most of the high stakes cash games on TV PAD / HSP to name a couple all have antes involved so its clearly not just a tournament thing
if people prefer playing w/o antes so they dont have to start playing more marginal hands that is fine, they obv dont have to sit at the tables, all the OP is saying is add 1 or 2 tables per stakes with antes included and see how it goes
It would be interesting if you had the odd table maybe but dont think it would be popular, as for cash game without blinds that probably would be more but would be dull to say the least lol
I've never played a cash game with them but think its a great idea to try out on a couple of tables. Imagine playing on a table full of nits then!!