the proportion of winning players on the forum is definately higher than the general sky population.
anyway i disagree with what you are saying, not many fish or non serious players are going to invest the time and money in buying software and analysing their game.. it completely contradicts the reason they are here (to gamble and spin up money) anyway even if they did they will prob not play enough hands and their results will be skewed by variance.
This would mainly change the game between regs vs regs, and imo not for the better. and each level would just get harder, as it is i wud say the average nl50 game here (sterling) is probly about as tough as a nl10 (USD) on stars or ftp..
as mentioned i just think it will make the mid stakes much tougher, in turn certain players who can survive and win at this level atm will have to drop down, then they will beat the lower stake regs out of the lower stakes games, these regs have to move down to play the micros and you end up with a much tougher site. (obv a gross exageration of what will happen, but to an extent accurate)
I am by no means a reg, or even winning player and i detest the thought of software on sky. it is so off putting and as a casual depositer i wud not be able to deposit £50 and spin it up because the games wud be much tougher, EV spots become obsolete.
if sky want more players, just offer a better cash 4 points offer, i reckon its the equivalent to between 5/10% rakeback depending on volume which is as stingy as my bloke opposite my desk who wont even share his maltesers (125g bag). where almost any other site offers 27% -40% rakeback through an affiliate
There are many reasons to be able to download the hand history:
- to use a hand replayer
- to do stats and analysis
- to post hands to forums, blogs and websites...
In my opinion, it simply makes sense to allow the hand history to be downloaded. Obviously the new downloadable client (I am a beta tester) could easily allow local storage of hand history.
And once this is enabled, trackers will be compatible whether people like it or not.
Should they be banned ? No, there is no reason. After all, a tracker does not do anything you could not do manually. If you already make notes like "this guy 3 bets" or "this guy folds as BB when reraised" or "this guy always does continuation bets of half the pot", you are basically doing a tracker's job. A tracker simply does all this faster.
Some geeks have already custom made hand history tracking software for sky. I hope Sky start encrypting hand histories. I hope tracking software never becomes widely available for use on sky.
Some geeks have already custom made hand history tracking software for sky. I hope Sky start encrypting hand histories. I hope tracking software never becomes widely available for use on sky. Posted by BrownnDog
Should they be banned ? No, there is no reason. After all, a tracker does not do anything you could not do manually. If you already make notes...you are basically doing a tracker's job. A tracker simply does all this faster. Regards, Max Posted by lastpoet22
I think having a HUD is something you cannot replicate with 'extensive notes'.
i dont care about the post game analysis thats fine, its the heads up display dictating peoples play that grinds my gears.
what Browndog says is alarming if true.
skypoker has its very own russ hamilton wannabe, i wud luv to kno who it was
lol @ those people who think it's that easy to just 'make a poker tracker for sky'. if it was it would already have been done.
it's not like sky haven't made it hard enough as it is, with lack of access to hh's, the hh formats being images + them never coming locally.
parsing one wall of hh text and getting an output that's readable is one thing, let alone doing it multiple times and getting a commercial database application to accept it.
I hope Sky start encrypting hand histories.
What does this even mean?! You don't want to be able to access a hand you've played recently or look it up in the hh window? you don't want to look to see what your oppo went to showdown with?
People talking about hud's and stuff are dreamers lol, we can only just tile our tables!!!! dreaaaam on
the proportion of winning players on the forum is definately higher than the general sky population. anyway i disagree with what you are saying, not many fish or non serious players are going to invest the time and money in buying software and analysing their game.. it completely contradicts the reason they are here (to gamble and spin up money) anyway even if they did they will prob not play enough hands and their results will be skewed by variance. This would mainly change the game between regs vs regs, and imo not for the better. and each level would just get harder, as it is i wud say the average nl50 game here (sterling) is probly about as tough as a nl10 (USD) on stars or ftp.. as mentioned i just think it will make the mid stakes much tougher, in turn certain players who can survive and win at this level atm will have to drop down, then they will beat the lower stake regs out of the lower stakes games, these regs have to move down to play the micros and you end up with a much tougher site. (obv a gross exageration of what will happen, but to an extent accurate) I am by no means a reg, or even winning player and i detest the thought of software on sky. it is so off putting and as a casual depositer i wud not be able to deposit £50 and spin it up because the games wud be much tougher, EV spots become obsolete. I hate hate hate it so %"£(!!DH"&! ing much! Posted by hotpotato
Highlighted some of your points for reply
1) Your prob right there will be a higher proportion of winning players on the forum than the site, may be supprised as to how few it is though, its certainly not every player who says they are winning lol
2)There are tons of people who buy them that are not full time or even any good. Thats how the companies that sell them survive, by doing it to the mass market
3) At one time i would have agreed but i think the standard of nl50 on the site has drastically increased
4) If your having a gamble to spin money up then this would be influenced by the variance and may be less dependant on your skill level and more on if the cards fall your way
like i said i understand if the site doesn't implement them, i just don't want less experianced players being influenced by the thought that trakers somehow mean a system is playing for someone, or that it's going to suddenly make everybody a great player gl on the tables
In Response to Re: TRACKING SOFTWARE : I vaguely remember you saying something on this forum or maybe blonde. Maybe it was someone else... Posted by BrownnDog
it could have been me ages ago, i'm so opinionated dontyaknow
just thought you meant from this thread, read your post then replied then re-read my posts and was like hmm where did I say anything lol.
You're lucky that there's an error with the hand histories from march and before otherwise i'd try and manually find that TT hand and abuse you more ahahahahahaha
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the proportion of winning players on the forum is definately higher than the general sky population.
anyway i disagree with what you are saying, not many fish or non serious players are going to invest the time and money in buying software and analysing their game.. it completely contradicts the reason they are here (to gamble and spin up money) anyway even if they did they will prob not play enough hands and their results will be skewed by variance.
This would mainly change the game between regs vs regs, and imo not for the better. and each level would just get harder, as it is i wud say the average nl50 game here (sterling) is probly about as tough as a nl10 (USD) on stars or ftp..
as mentioned i just think it will make the mid stakes much tougher, in turn certain players who can survive and win at this level atm will have to drop down, then they will beat the lower stake regs out of the lower stakes games, these regs have to move down to play the micros and you end up with a much tougher site. (obv a gross exageration of what will happen, but to an extent accurate)
I am by no means a reg, or even winning player and i detest the thought of software on sky. it is so off putting and as a casual depositer i wud not be able to deposit £50 and spin it up because the games wud be much tougher, EV spots become obsolete.
I hate hate hate it so %"£(!!DH"&! ing much!
Will improve the standard on here alot though which may not be so good
Also with downloadable client and tracking software you will get more serious players looking for easy money.
In my humble opinion
i dont care about the post game analysis thats fine, its the heads up display dictating peoples play that grinds my gears.
what Browndog says is alarming if true.
skypoker has its very own russ hamilton wannabe, i wud luv to kno who it was
1) Your prob right there will be a higher proportion of winning players on the forum than the site, may be supprised as to how few it is though, its certainly not every player who says they are winning
2)There are tons of people who buy them that are not full time or even any good. Thats how the companies that sell them survive, by doing it to the mass market
3) At one time i would have agreed but i think the standard of nl50 on the site has drastically increased
4) If your having a gamble to spin money up then this would be influenced by the variance and may be less dependant on your skill level and more on if the cards fall your way
like i said i understand if the site doesn't implement them, i just don't want less experianced players being influenced by the thought that trakers somehow mean a system is playing for someone, or that it's going to suddenly make everybody a great player
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