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TIP THE DEALER?

THESWISSTHESWISS Member Posts: 238
edited November 2010 in Poker Chat
I have recently started playing live cash. What is everyones thoughts on tipping the dealers. Do you have to? Is it expected? The dealers at my casino are generally very bad and some even get annoyed if you don't tip.

Without this becoming a debate on tipping in life generally what does everyone think?

Ed
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  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited November 2010
    In Response to TIP THE DEALER?:
    I have recently started playing live cash. What is everyones thoughts on tipping the dealers. Do you have to? Is it expected? The dealers at my casino are generally very bad and some even get annoyed if you don't tip. Without this becoming a debate on tipping in life generally what does everyone think? Ed
    Posted by THESWISS
    i play live nlh alot and only once have i seen the dealer get a tip.. and this was 2k pot

    a7 hearts v 10 9 hearts on a 8h jh rag ra(h) board.. all the money went in on the turn and the guy was drawing to a 1 outter - queen of hearts... he said for a laugh " if u give me the q of hearts i will give you £100... it came and he did!!

    generally tho i do not like tipping people to do their job... i think i would in us tho as even people who open your taxi door expect a tip
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2010

    U gotta be jokin!!!

    Never been to a casino, but if I did, they wudnt get a penny! THEY GET PAID TO DO WHAT THEY DO!!!
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2010
    u tight fracker dohhhh!! if the dealer gives me the 1/2/3 outer i will give him a tip, otherwise deal on my friend!
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  • LMLLML Member Posts: 1,708
    edited November 2010
    I tip.. But only when I win... and then I'm so excited I over tip. Apparently £50 max for a £1000-£3000 cash is enough (I tipped between £50 and £150 for my wins) if second place is a decent enough cash or it's chopped, I'll also tip.

    I consider it a donation to the poker Gods.

    But it's completely personal.. It's like any service. I've been a waiter/bartender etc so I know how easy it is to be friendly and polite. If I get bad service I won't tip. End of. No excuse for bad manners IMO.

    EDIT.. ah just reread. the LIVE CASH part.. OOPS.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s Member Posts: 1,307
    edited November 2010
    Neil Channing stopped tipping at the Vic when he worked out what percentage it was costing him in relation to rake. I think he decided to just put X amount aside and give it as a fund to the dealers at christmas. I think it's situation dependant (isn't everything in poker lol) but generally i tip someone for doing a good job, above the norm. Average is worth the wage they are paid so it has to be above and beyond. If a dealer is involved in the banter at the table, keeps the mood fun and light, then yeah i'll tip. I once had a table fumming after refusing to tip after a good session because the dealer was a miserable so and so who had also mucked my cards when they were still live. In my eyes he didn't deserve and didn't get!
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited November 2010
    There used to be no point tipping in the Vic because the poker room tips got spread out throughout the casino/Grosvenor and barely went to the poker room at all so it was pointless.

    I tip a quid a pot per every 2 or 3 I win (so never lol).
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  • BelovedLtdBelovedLtd Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2010
    I'll tip for exceptional service, but their isn't really much room for exceptional service in dealing.

    The dealer is either doing everything properly - what they're paid for; or they're doing a bad job. 

    There aren't really any 'extra' things a dealer could do which deserve a tip which they shouldn't already be doing.


    And the only way it's down to the dealer when they deal you a 1/2/3 outer is if they've stacked the deck for you - and I don't think anybody really wants that do they.

    If you're going to randomly give away your money any time you get a bit more extra cash than expected you're better off pooling it and occasionally making a donation to charity.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited November 2010
    On from Beloveds post, I am more likely to tip if the dealer does his job. And I don't mean deal the cards but if they do something like speed up the game/request the floor correctly/ take control of a mistake/ warn people appropriately or act professionally in a tough situation I will tip more than if I won a pot.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited November 2010
    it has got to be right to tip the dealer when you win a nice big juicy pot surely.
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  • Any2SuitedAny2Suited Member Posts: 1,240
    edited November 2010
    I tip in vegas when i win a pot but its expected,over here like beaneh says if the dealer has total control of the table banter and flow of the game and ther's a good atmosphere then i will tip at the end of my session (unless involved winning a huge pot during session, when i may tip after that pot).
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited November 2010
    i tip before i sit down and take it back if he deals me dirt
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    i normally round my stack down to nearest £5 or £10 at en of night and tip that, or if i win a big pot 1 or 2 bbs.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,815
    edited November 2010
    Tipping dealers is something i massivley disagree with in poker id never do it. It encourages a strong dealer to make you win (ok good for me) but id rather win honestly
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  • BelovedLtdBelovedLtd Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER?:
    it has got to be right to tip the dealer when you win a nice big juicy pot surely.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Why?
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER?:
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER? : Why?
    Posted by BelovedLtd
    because its polite
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  • BelovedLtdBelovedLtd Member Posts: 188
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER?:
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER? : because its polite
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    In what sense?

    What makes it politeness?

    Is it polite to tip your newsagent if you win money on a lottery scratchcard? or the programmers if you win on Sky Vegas?

    Are there any other people you tip for just doing there jobs? or is it just poker dealers?
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER?:
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER? : In what sense? What makes it politeness? Is it polite to tip your newsagent if you win money on a lottery scratchcard? or the programmers if you win on Sky Vegas? Are there any other people you tip for just doing there jobs? or is it just poker dealers?
    Posted by BelovedLtd
    taxi drivers, hairdressers, barmaids, waitresses.....................
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  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited November 2010
    Over a cliff????
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited November 2010
    I voted no, but I still tip, if most of the table do.  I was at a casino a few weeks ago, and the dealer wasnt casino staff.  This happens regularly, one of the players nominate themselves to deal, and the session charges are cheaper.  I would prefer to pay more to get a dealer, buts thats how it was.
    This one night, the member of public dealing, wasnt even playing, so he must have been solely relying on tips, and if you forgot to tip, there would be hints around the table to do so.  I wasnt keen on that tbh.
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  • ACESOVER8sACESOVER8s Member Posts: 1,307
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER?:
    In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER? : In what sense? What makes it politeness? Is it polite to tip your newsagent if you win money on a lottery scratchcard? or the programmers if you win on Sky Vegas? Are there any other people you tip for just doing there jobs? or is it just poker dealers?
    Posted by BelovedLtd
    In general we Tip minimum wage earners who carry out their job with pride and service beyond the value of the remuneration they recieve by the employer. It's the personal touch of the Dealer/Employee that dictates if i tip because if i earned a fiver an hour i'm not sure i could raise a smile but some people deliver whatever the wage
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