In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER? : In general we Tip minimum wage earners who carry out their job with pride and service beyond the value of the remuneration they recieve by the employer. It's the personal touch of the Dealer/Employee that dictates if i tip because if i earned a fiver an hour i'm not sure i could raise a smile but some people deliver whatever the wage Posted by ACESOVER8s
OK, so you tip based on earnings, if the street cleaners near where you live carry out their job with pride and service beyond the value of their renumeration - do they get a tip?
How do you know if if it's beyond the value of their renumeration? Do you ask them beforehand? Maybe get them to fill in a little questionnaire?
Not that it's relevant anyway - your pay is the value of your job; some people can do the bare minimum needed for their job and some can do really well; but that's what pay rises are for.
If you have a job where you're not getting rewarded with pay rises for how well you're doing then you should move to a different employer; if no employer will pay you more - it almost certainly means your job isn't worth as much as you think it is but you still have the choice to move jobs completely.
Whatever happens it's an individuals own responsibility, not their customers or clients or customers/clients of their employers.
For what it's worth - very few dealers in licensed premises get paid minimum wage.
There are obviously differences, particularly regional one's.
When I've looked through industry recruitment before, the average dealer tends to get paid about the same as the average bank clerk. Whenever you've done something over the counter at a bank before - did you leave a tip?
I tip if its over 50bb pot. Standard is 1bb. If its something sick like 500bb I'll throw them 25.
I do think its pretty wrong how casinos share the tips between the management as well as the floor staff, who are all on minimum wage or thereabouts.
I was once in the vic and had won like a 500 quid pot. I chuck the dealer a couple of quid and he mutters something like 'a pot that big is usually worth a tenner'. I had my iPod in one ear and was rebuilding my stack so I pretended not to hear.
Couple of hands later there are a couple of limpers and I make a standard raise. I take down the 7 quid pot and chuck him it all and say I'll decide when to tip and by how much. He looked kinda embarrased.
I do play at a local poker club tho and the delaers there rely soley on tips so I make sure I tip a bit extra there cos they're nice guys as well and do a very good job....
kinda tough this one ...... but ive played dtd where i consider the rake a tad too high but i will chuck a quid now and the to the dealer....... a recent trip to egypt i played live cash in sharm....... and i thought dtd was a big rake... the rake there was 10% with no cap !!! needless to say the dealer got sweet fa.......... my local grovs we pay for a dealer £5per hour per player and i will tip every winning hand as long as they deal to a good standard (as beaneh says)......
I tip if its over 50bb pot. Standard is 1bb. If its something sick like 500bb I'll throw them 25. I do think its pretty wrong how casinos share the tips between the management as well as the floor staff, who are all on minimum wage or thereabouts. I was once in the vic and had won like a 500 quid pot. I chuck the dealer a couple of quid and he mutters something like 'a pot that big is usually worth a tenner'. I had my iPod in one ear and was rebuilding my stack so I pretended not to hear. Couple of hands later there are a couple of limpers and I make a standard raise. I take down the 7 quid pot and chuck him it all and say I'll decide when to tip and by how much. He looked kinda embarrased. I do play at a local poker club tho and the delaers there rely soley on tips so I make sure I tip a bit extra there cos they're nice guys as well and do a very good job.... Posted by scotty77
The Neil Channing situation summed it up nicely. Especially when you consider at my casino the rake is 10%, the dealers are poor and occasionally rude, not all but some.
In Response to Re: TIP THE DEALER? : OK, so you tip based on earnings, if the street cleaners near where you live carry out their job with pride and service beyond the value of their renumeration - do they get a tip? How do you know if if it's beyond the value of their renumeration? Do you ask them beforehand? Maybe get them to fill in a little questionnaire? Not that it's relevant anyway - your pay is the value of your job; some people can do the bare minimum needed for their job and some can do really well; but that's what pay rises are for. If you have a job where you're not getting rewarded with pay rises for how well you're doing then you should move to a different employer; if no employer will pay you more - it almost certainly means your job isn't worth as much as you think it is but you still have the choice to move jobs completely. Whatever happens it's an individuals own responsibility, not their customers or clients or customers/clients of their employers. For what it's worth - very few dealers in licensed premises get paid minimum wage. There are obviously differences, particularly regional one's. When I've looked through industry recruitment before, the average dealer tends to get paid about the same as the average bank clerk. Whenever you've done something over the counter at a bank before - did you leave a tip? Posted by BelovedLtd
I'm going to presume you missed the Phrase "In General" lol
I don't tip everyone but when i do the reasons given in my other post are why i do, from your responses i arrive at the conclusion you don't tip?. Thats fine because tipping is a very personal thing as are the reasons behind it. Some people do it because they feel it's expected, some people wait to see if service is exceptional, others have their own reasons.
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I do think its pretty wrong how casinos share the tips between the management as well as the floor staff, who are all on minimum wage or thereabouts.
I was once in the vic and had won like a 500 quid pot. I chuck the dealer a couple of quid and he mutters something like 'a pot that big is usually worth a tenner'. I had my iPod in one ear and was rebuilding my stack so I pretended not to hear.
Couple of hands later there are a couple of limpers and I make a standard raise. I take down the 7 quid pot and chuck him it all and say I'll decide when to tip and by how much. He looked kinda embarrased.
I do play at a local poker club tho and the delaers there rely soley on tips so I make sure I tip a bit extra there cos they're nice guys as well and do a very good job....
hahaha, quality that
I don't tip everyone but when i do the reasons given in my other post are why i do, from your responses i arrive at the conclusion you don't tip?. Thats fine because tipping is a very personal thing as are the reasons behind it. Some people do it because they feel it's expected, some people wait to see if service is exceptional, others have their own reasons.