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grrrrrrrr what do i do?

spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
edited November 2010 in The Poker Clinic
the player has been passive untill it`s me ( might be that ball as avater ) he has been caught bluffin, then this threw me< wat would you do ( hand id 308904574)
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
m
 Small blind
150.00 150.00 16326.25
spornybol Big blind   300.00 450.00 17107.50
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 10
     
SUSAND Fold        
borobabe09 Fold        
bernie99 Fold        
m Call   150.00 600.00 16176.25
spornybol Check        
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 8
  • 2
     
m Check        
spornybol Check        
Turn
   
  • 4
     
m Check        
spornybol Check        
River
   
  • J
     
m Check        
spornybol Bet   600.00 1200.00 16507.50
m Raise   1200.00 2400.00 14976.25
spornybol Raise   2850.00 5250.00 13657.50
m All-in   14976.25 20226.25 0.00
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  • DollieDollie Member Posts: 706
    edited November 2010
    You've commited about 20% of your stack into this pot, have 40+ BBs left, which is still a good stack at this stage of tourny.  If it was me I put him on Q 10 and fold, I don't think you are getting right value to call into what MIGHT be a split pot. 
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  • pattykpattyk Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2010
     call and see the villain has 10 q and sigh

    u cant fold this in saying that you dont have the nuts so i would just have called his reraise

    but thats me being a nit

    i would also have bet out on flop and maybe the turn
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  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited November 2010
    Tough 1 m8.  As far as i can see the only hand beating u is Q 10. Might have had the same hand, or hit 2 pair on the river.  Tough to call for tournament life.  My guess is that he had a hand like J 8.  Still a tough call.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    bet flop bet turn go 'FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU'
    and fold river
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  • DaveOwlXDaveOwlX Member Posts: 140
    edited November 2010
    I think his all in after the river raising would signal alarm bells if he has been passive previously. I suppose the check check killed you on this one with obvious hindsight. His price on a gutshot was astronomical :)
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
     call and see the villain has 10 q and sigh u cant fold this in saying that you dont have the nuts so i would just have called his reraise but thats me being a nit i would also have bet out on flop and maybe the turn
    Posted by pattyk
    he only min raised my bet so i went over thinkin i had best hand he`d fold or call but to go all in threw me
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  • JGIBBRFCJGIBBRFC Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2010
    gotta bet to find out from the  way it went i cant work out if the guy had flopped a  set or rivered the higher str8 if u get a RR after flop then u got ur answer imo and why did u reraise the river if u wer gonna fold to the shove that makes no sense to me m8 but dont listen to me what do i know lol and im sorry but if thers only 1 hand out ther beatin me then so be it im callin every time !!

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2010
    R u serious? call.

    It's the easiest call ever.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    gotta bet to find out from the  way it went i cant work out if the guy had flopped a  set or rivered the higher str8 if u get a RR after flop then u got ur answer imo and why did u reraise the river if u wer gonna fold to the shove that makes no sense to me m8 but dont listen to me what do i know lol and im sorry but if thers only 1 hand out ther beatin me then so be it im callin every time !!
    Posted by JGIBBRFC
    when he min raised my bet i put him on pair / 2 pair so i reraised thinking he`d call or fold but when he shoved  that threw me
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  • JGIBBRFCJGIBBRFC Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : when he min raised my bet i put him on pair / 2 pair so i reraised thinking he`d call or fold but when he shoved  that threw me
    Posted by spornybol
    i dont think i could lay down the 2nd nuts even if dp was shoving it in i'd still call lol if anything in that spot for those blinds i would prob raise pre try and take it down ther and then.  would love to know what this other chap had now coz if i had Q 10 in that spot u could expect a raise from me pre flop my overrall conclusion is he had either 2 pair or he flopped bottom set
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  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : i dont think i could lay down the 2nd nuts even if dp was shoving it in i'd still call lol if anything in that spot for those blinds i would prob raise pre try and take it down ther and then.  would love to know what this other chap had now coz if i had Q 10 in that spot u could expect a raise from me pre flop my overrall conclusion is he had either 2 pair or he flopped bottom set
    Posted by JGIBBRFC
    The way he played it I thought he had 2 pair.  If he had a set i reckon he would have bet it before the river.  Possibility that he had 10 J.
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  • pattykpattyk Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : he only min raised my bet so i went over thinkin i had best hand he`d fold or call but to go all in threw me
    Posted by spornybol

    you got into the problem by not betting out on flop and possibly the turn if he  was as passive as you say there is no way he would have called a decent bet on turn to hit a 4 outer and you would have took the hand down there and then ,checking the flop is criminal to me at least ,you wont always hit but at least it lets you know where you are with the villain.you got yourself into a bad position with his jam after your reraise ,as i said i would call and if he has q 10 so be it

    but betting out on  flop and turn and i dont think you would have even seen a river card tbh
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  • pattykpattyk Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    R u serious? call. It's the easiest call ever.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    love your style jj lol

    blunt and straight to the point
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  • TombmxTombmx Member Posts: 17
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    R u serious? call. It's the easiest call ever.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Agreed, One hand out there that is bettering yours, Should be a instant call basicly.
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  • JGIBBRFCJGIBBRFC Member Posts: 83
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : The way he played it I thought he had 2 pair.  If he had a set i reckon he would have bet it before the river.  Possibility that he had 10 J.
    Posted by 67Bhoys
    looking at it again with no alchohol swaying my mind i think ur probably correct m8 lol
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    surely they would have bet had they q10, id say they hit 2 pair so snap call

    not easiest but 2nd nuts, cant see why they would check / allin in with q10 if they did i reckon they saw your cards you were holding them face up silly! lol
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  • labrat64labrat64 Member Posts: 987
    edited November 2010
    2nd nuts, sorry insta call and throw your pc at the dog if you're beaten
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : i dont think i could lay down the 2nd nuts even if dp was shoving it in i'd still call lol if anything in that spot for those blinds i would prob raise pre try and take it down ther and then.  would love to know what this other chap had now coz if i had Q 10 in that spot u could expect a raise from me pre flop my overrall conclusion is he had either 2 pair or he flopped bottom set
    Posted by JGIBBRFC
    your not the only one that would love too know what he had, i know you should not be result oriontated but this one is annoying lol
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    You folded, wow although i can see the logic at least your not calling for your tourney life and you dont have the nuts. i would call personally but hey ho either way at least you were still in the tourney etc
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    You folded, wow although i can see the logic at least your not calling for your tourney life and you dont have the nuts. i would call personally but hey ho either way at least you were still in the tourney etc
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    had to with such a strong bet after my reraise had to change mind from him have two pair too have nut strate and as you said it was my tournie on line so still had enough blinds to find a better spot
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