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grrrrrrrr what do i do?

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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited November 2010

    I think your fold is correct... Q10 written all over it imo. Or some weird crazy bluff (unlikely but possible based on your read), but yes i'm with you and Dollie on this one. Fold ftw.

    Maybe the lovely Mandy will show this on Sunday's poker clinic....

  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    I think your fold is correct... Q10 written all over it imo. Or some weird crazy bluff (unlikely but possible based on your read), but yes i'm with you and Dollie on this one. Fold ftw. Maybe the lovely Mandy will show this on Sunday's poker clinic....
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    hi gregg i hope it was the fold off the century, but if it was the bluff off a life time,then fair play , still annoying what did he have  got to admit the all in threw me, i still think he had 2 pair  but it was tournie life  and to admit was sooo close too calling

    edit* with the fold ie( dollie) still had enough blinds to  play with
  • pattykpattyk Member Posts: 100
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    I think your fold is correct... Q10 written all over it imo. Or some weird crazy bluff (unlikely but possible based on your read), but yes i'm with you and Dollie on this one. Fold ftw. Maybe the lovely Mandy will show this on Sunday's poker clinic....
    Posted by GREGHOGG

    gregg surely the fold is being even nittier than tikay and i think even tikay would call this

    how can u fold the 2nd nuts 

    as i said i call and if he turns over q 10  so be it
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : gregg surely the fold is being even nittier than tikay and i think even tikay would call this how can u fold the 2nd nuts  as i said i call and if he turns over q 10  so be it
    Posted by pattyk
    i reraised too get player to call or fold - ed ( value town ) giddens - but when all-in had to fold in case he/she did have 10/q - i still had enough blinds for better spot to win tourny
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    2nd nuts, sorry insta call and throw your pc at the dog if you're beaten
    Posted by labrat64
    i would throw pc at dog but she`s on two week holiday lol, meowww
  • shelskishelski Member Posts: 467
    edited November 2010
    i'd bet the flop, turn and river. RAMP IT UP man and JAM the lot in on the river. in less than 1 second you know if it/he/she has q-10. if you are still waiting after the first second you win. Whadda rush !!!!!! COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm with Young Gun all the way here ! Jacked up psychological violence FTW !!!!
    Beautiful game :p  easy meat.
  • shelskishelski Member Posts: 467
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : love your style jj lol blunt and straight to the point
    Posted by pattyk
    it's right. even if he loses. it's always right.
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    i'd bet the flop, turn and river. RAMP IT UP man and JAM the lot in on the river. in less than 1 second you know if it/he/she has q-10. if you are still waiting after the first second you win. Whadda rush !!!!!! COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm with Young Gun all the way here ! Jacked up psychological violence FTW !!!! Beautiful game :p  easy meat.
    Posted by shelski
    wish it was easy meat but oppo sucked me once all-ready- but this was a differant to the way he/she had played that`s what threw me out
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited November 2010
    i still think fold is wrong here, i'd love them to put on the clinic n will be lookin out for it.

    I think 99% of time villain here does not have q10, at worst they have the same as we do split pot but as u say its for your tourney life so not the worst fold tbh
  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited November 2010
    if u dont plan on calling a shove then dont 3bet the river imo

    i'd find it hard pushed to put him on 2p and be raising for value as the only plausible 2p that doesnt bet turn is j2 or j4 but they wont be shoving over ur 3 bet with that

    if he hasnt been out of line and u dont think hes a donkey i think you can fold as at best its a split but in real time its prob hard, depends on structure of tourney too


  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do? : i would throw pc at dog but she`s on two week holiday lol, meowww
    Posted by spornybol
    Quick mate u got 2 weeks to sell the house and move
  • maximus66maximus66 Member Posts: 81
    edited November 2010

    i really cant believe he has Q10 here tbh, surely with the nuts he would not shove 15k in to 5k pot, he would value bet it all day long i would have thought??

    i think he's either got suited J5/J6 etc and just spiked a Jack with bad kicker or its a total bluff thinking that your trying to steal on river

    i would never ever fold in this situation, id insta calling 100% of the time here
  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2010
    its all about relative hand strength, yes we have the 2nd nuts but if villains range consists of the nuts then our hand isnt very good at all is it.

    when have people ever seen someone 4bet the river after all other streets have been as passive as they can be and shown down a bluff.

    lynx i think there are enough 2pair hands (maybe even sets but heavily discounted)  that will raise our bet and call the 3bet.

    good fold imo
  • Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
    edited November 2010

    first of all i think u should have bet the flop. however as played i think its a fold, i personally like your 3bet on the river as we are getting value from weaker hands which could call the bet. however when the guy shoves it does look like your beat so folding is fine imo

  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    if u dont plan on calling a shove then dont 3bet the river imo i'd find it hard pushed to put him on 2p and be raising for value as the only plausible 2p that doesnt bet turn is j2 or j4 but they wont be shoving over ur 3 bet with that if he hasnt been out of line and u dont think hes a donkey i think you can fold as at best its a split but in real time its prob hard, depends on structure of tourney too
    Posted by lynx3ffect
    to be honest when they min raise my bet i put them on two pair, but when they shoved my reriase i had to put them on 10/q
  • rossjb14rossjb14 Member Posts: 700
    edited November 2010
    Sporny, I don't think I can fold there, if villan has Q 10 then so be it.  Probably would have bet the flop with the up and down.

    As you said you still have plenty of chips and hopefully it is the fold of the week for you.
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited November 2010
    bump, would it be poss to show this and put me out off misery, many thanks
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    its all about relative hand strength, yes we have the 2nd nuts but if villains range consists of the nuts then our hand isnt very good at all is it. when have people ever seen someone 4bet the river after all other streets have been as passive as they can be and shown down a bluff. lynx i think there are enough 2pair hands (maybe even sets but heavily discounted)  that will raise our bet and call the 3bet. good fold imo
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    i totally agree with what you say here but the fact the villain checks it down including the river im thinking this is a spz out, i would call this and whatever he shows me im saying WOW!
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited November 2010
    In Response to Re: grrrrrrrr what do i do?:
    bump, would it be poss to show this and put me out off misery, many thanks
    Posted by spornybol
    if they do show this hand post the result in here as i would be interested to see what he had, cheers

    did you post this hand in the PLAY MY HAND REQUESTS in THE SKY POKER T.V CHANNEL forum

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