Am always serious about my game. Your probably right, I am likely to be losing value in many spots based on my snakebit mentality.
This aside, I dont see how my run changes if I keep losing the allin critical pots. Genuinely not talking coin flips, am talking AT LEAST 80% at turn and less than 1% off the flop, getting binked a very improbable amount of the time. Plus Losing far too often when flopping the SCN to runner runner FH, or river set. I really am not exaggerating, that is how bad I run. Without whining or moaning about it, I just dont see playing online as my path forward. With this in mind the argument about online/live harder/easier becomes kind of moot also (speaking for myself).
But You've given me a new angle to look at and think upon, so thankyou. As I've said I just cannot win online, If I showed you the run of seriously improbable beats I've sustained It'd give you a clearer picture, but its mostly pointless. I'm going to ride out my remaining BR, hoping the tide changes. But I make very good money live, it just feels like I should be putting more energy into that area again. Which also means no more online poker critiqueing from me
But getting more value is always a good thing so I shall definately look into it.
Am always serious about my game. Your probably right, I am likely to be losing value in many spots based on my snakebit mentality. This aside, I dont see how my run changes if I keep losing the allin critical pots. Genuinely not talking coin flips, am talking AT LEAST 80% at turn and less than 1% off the flop, getting binked a very improbable amount of the time. Plus Losing far too often when flopping the SCN to runner runner FH, or river set. I really am not exaggerating, that is how bad I run. Without whining or moaning about it, I just dont see playing online as my path forward. With this in mind the argument about online/live harder/easier becomes kind of moot also (speaking for myself). But You've given me a new angle to look at and think upon, so thankyou. As I've said I just cannot win online, If I showed you the run of seriously improbable beats I've sustained It'd give you a clearer picture, but its mostly pointless. I'm going to ride out my remaining BR, hoping the tide changes. But I make very good money live, it just feels like I should be putting more energy into that area again. Which also means no more online poker critiqueing from me But getting more value is always a good thing so I shall definately look into it. Posted by AMYBR
i know what this is like we all run terrible at times, the best bit of advice i had when running like this was to play shorter sessions and then take a look at my play, so i normally play 1 hours sessions on average but if i get on a bad run i will quit after half hour then spend the other 30mins looking over my hand replayer on HM just to see if i could of played better its a big help and it stops me from doubting the way i played,
if you have HM take a screenshot of your stats and post it on here and see what feedback you get if you havnt got HM or PT then thats probably a leak in its self
amybr, i am no where near your level of play, so cant offer you any advice, what i can do is ask a question. reading your posts im getting the impression the problem comes around the turn when you are massively ahead (hope im right so far!) you say you dont like to allow a free card which i understand (in normal situations this isnt good) but you arnt in "normal" situation territory. the question is, if you are 80/90%fav at the turn how bad can it get by reigning back and seeing the river, more often than not you are still going to be a huge fav, and the times when the board hits that 2 outer you can re look at the situation. phil
Yeah thanks for your input bud. I've tried that approach too, I play much more cautiously online than live. Your right all my big pots are lost on the river. More often than that though its someone binking a st, beating two pair, or filling up an over pair. Again I'm not moaning or whining, I'm trying to be open minded, frank and honest. Issue is though, I'm never seeing that hand (that the river crushes me) either way.
Three hands in round 90 minutes last night left me clutching the sides of my head:
AJ vs 55
AJ6 9 at the turn. Standard bets pre/flop. I like to Dwan it a bit and overbet this strong normally. I bet two thirds pot, he min raises I call.
AJ6 9 5. I lead out, he jams, for the difference folding isnt an option I call. River set takes it
A7 vs JJ
flop A74. Again standard bets
A74 7. Should be gin. Exactly same type of bets
A74 7 J. He Jams on top I call. River set.
This happened to me like 19 times in a 4 day period online, which is probably where some of my recent negativity came from. I really do run consistently this bad Within a 1hr session this week I had J's Q' and K's cracked concurrently by pocket 3's.
Again, I'm not complaining or questioning online poker, I'm trying to get past my suspicions and hold a mirror to my game. I can be the voice of dissent or I can respect that there are a fair few guys making a living on here and see if there's an deep flaw to my game.
I just think that online poker may not be a fit for me. My strengths are patience and a really strong reading ability, which are kind of nullified by the online aspect. If I'm going to retire my accounts, I think I'll do it on that basis, rather than go out whining.
If I'm going to let the river come off for free, its just really problematic to considor folding to the 1 or two hands I felt I was drawing against. Question is, after at least three bets have gone, how hard is that fold going to be? Surely the preffered play is to get it in on the 90%, fading the losses of the 1/10 to the huge gains of the 9/10. It hasnt seemed to work out for me though.
Got to say I feel pretty bad about my forum spewing. I guess I joined in a negative frame of mind and thats a pretty bad way to introduce yourself to a community. So apologies and thankyou for the feedback.
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This aside, I dont see how my run changes if I keep losing the allin critical pots. Genuinely not talking coin flips, am talking AT LEAST 80% at turn and less than 1% off the flop, getting binked a very improbable amount of the time. Plus Losing far too often when flopping the SCN to runner runner FH, or river set. I really am not exaggerating, that is how bad I run. Without whining or moaning about it, I just dont see playing online as my path forward. With this in mind the argument about online/live harder/easier becomes kind of moot also (speaking for myself).
But You've given me a new angle to look at and think upon, so thankyou. As I've said I just cannot win online, If I showed you the run of seriously improbable beats I've sustained It'd give you a clearer picture, but its mostly pointless. I'm going to ride out my remaining BR, hoping the tide changes. But I make very good money live, it just feels like I should be putting more energy into that area again. Which also means no more online poker critiqueing from me
But getting more value is always a good thing so I shall definately look into it.
if you have HM take a screenshot of your stats and post it on here and see what feedback you get if you havnt got HM or PT then thats probably a leak in its self
I know much of my posts have had a certain slant, thanks for taking this thread in the spirit it was intended.
Three hands in round 90 minutes last night left me clutching the sides of my head:
AJ vs 55
AJ6 9 at the turn. Standard bets pre/flop. I like to Dwan it a bit and overbet this strong normally. I bet two thirds pot, he min raises I call.
AJ6 9 5. I lead out, he jams, for the difference folding isnt an option I call. River set takes it
A7 vs JJ
flop A74. Again standard bets
A74 7. Should be gin. Exactly same type of bets
A74 7 J. He Jams on top I call. River set.
This happened to me like 19 times in a 4 day period online, which is probably where some of my recent negativity came from. I really do run consistently this bad Within a 1hr session this week I had J's Q' and K's cracked concurrently by pocket 3's.
Again, I'm not complaining or questioning online poker, I'm trying to get past my suspicions and hold a mirror to my game. I can be the voice of dissent or I can respect that there are a fair few guys making a living on here and see if there's an deep flaw to my game.
I just think that online poker may not be a fit for me. My strengths are patience and a really strong reading ability, which are kind of nullified by the online aspect. If I'm going to retire my accounts, I think I'll do it on that basis, rather than go out whining.
If I'm going to let the river come off for free, its just really problematic to considor folding to the 1 or two hands I felt I was drawing against. Question is, after at least three bets have gone, how hard is that fold going to be? Surely the preffered play is to get it in on the 90%, fading the losses of the 1/10 to the huge gains of the 9/10. It hasnt seemed to work out for me though.