In Response to Re: Team Sky Poker Qualification, any questions? : Depends on how much you rake I suppose - it isn't possible to still play as part of TSP if you don't get enough C4P for Sky to match and put you into live tournaments therefore 3 months will be the maximum stay for some players, possibly. As long as you are contributing to the team i.e. doing live shows, interviews etc and you are seen as providing a positive image for sky then I suppose it's hard for them to drop players, especially if they are binking as well!! I think the onus is on the TSP members to show their worth and imo I can't see them dropping people after 3 months cos I reckon they want to give players who rake enough the opportunity to be a TSP representative for as long as possible. Posted by dylan12
This is the point nobody knows for sure how team members stay on, is it rake dependant, results dependent, great studio performance dependant or is it simply Tikay likes me dependant (only joking TK) or are they all staying on as Sky create the biggest poker team out there? It would be nice to know.
this might not be the right place but hopefully gets answered...
fwiw I think it's fairly bad that Sky don't enter the team in the UKIPTs. I know the tour is sponsored by w/e site but they have 100pc more exposure to not just players but also the media. Look how much coverage they receive in comparison, + if one of the lads gets on the feature tbl in their Sky hoody it's like wiiii for you. The tourneys are also 500 not 1.5 so more of the team can play more tourneys.
If it's bcos we don't want to be playing in a tour sponsored by ***zzz then that's dumb bcos everyone knows about that site anyway, you'll be gaining far more customers than you lose by simply pointing us to follow our team in a tournament sponsored by someone else.
In Response to Re: Team Sky Poker Qualification, any questions? : This is the point nobody knows for sure how team members stay on, is it rake dependant, results dependent, great studio performance dependant or is it simply Tikay likes me dependant (only joking TK) or are they all staying on as Sky create the biggest poker team out there? It would be nice to know. Posted by stien
Rake is obviously key here, if they can't rake enough then they can't carry on no matter about the other factors.
this might not be the right place but hopefully gets answered... fwiw I think it's fairly bad that Sky don't enter the team in the UKIPTs. I know the tour is sponsored by w/e site but they have 100pc more exposure to not just players but also the media. Look how much coverage they receive in comparison, + if one of the lads gets on the feature tbl in their Sky hoody it's like wiiii for you. The tourneys are also 500 not 1.5 so more of the team can play more tourneys. If it's bcos we don't want to be playing in a tour sponsored by ***zzz then that's dumb bcos everyone knows about that site anyway, you'll be gaining far more customers than you lose by simply pointing us to follow our team in a tournament sponsored by someone else. TY Posted by pryce6
Good point! Deffo rather play on that tour than the GKUPT.
Also the point about clarifying how many people will stay on etc is important for anyone who wants to put in what is '3months' grinding to just get the shot at this. However Sky may not have a concise and exact plan for anything past the short to mid term as this is still a new venture and has to be constantly assessed and tweaked so as to provide what sky are attempting to whilst adding good value for those who use the site.
It would be cool if there was some way to have more 'sky live outings' to other events such as a DTD grand prix or something (the mass runner small buyin events they hold) as those are the sort of comps people could buy into without being staked etc. Just a thought.
As being a previous qualifier to this very tournament, I think I should add some opinions and advise following my experience in TSP.
Being a part of TSP could be a fantastic experience for anybody and is a fantastic idea by sky to make ordinary online players, into something a bit less ordinary. When I had first qualified for TSP I had absolutely no idea what any of it was about. And I fully understand that not only was this a new experience for me, but I was also very new to sky poker also.I hope the points I make in this post does not offend anybody, but hope that it may make the experience for future TSP’s more of an awesome experience that it could be.
I’m not very good at posts and writing so I’m just going start with my experience. My biggest worries about wining TSP was the lack of information and my job. For me just to get 1 day off work in 2 weeks time can be a massive battle. Tikay has said above “all information is available just by pressing a tab” even now I read that and it gives no information what so ever.
Just days after winning this tournament I had seen on sky 865 that “team sky poker” would be heading up to Manchester for the GUKPT. I had no idea if this included myself and received absolutely no information about this. I would suggest an email of package details including time and dates with sufficient notice, to make this an experience for the working class and not just for the unemployed and the poker pros.
It was only when I appeared on master cash and of course sky pulsed it to watch, and that Richard Orford suggested that I may be invited to SPT Luton. Again, I received absolutely no information about this, but arranged to book the day off work in case I may be invited. Two days before the event I had to email Tikay to ask if I would be invited, to which he replied “of course and that I would be a guest player”. I was expecting at this event to meet the rest of the team and to be made very welcome and even some red carpet treatment. However I was never introduce to the team, and Tikay said much less than 10 words to me and spent less that 10 seconds with me, all very disappointing for the time and effort I had giving to TSP. Although for me it was still a fantastic and exciting experience.
I guess what I am saying are lots more planning and lots lots more information is needed to make this a fun experience for everyone. Even now I have had no idea what the double points for cash means to me if anything, Don’t know if I will be invited to a £1000 event, and don’t even know if I am still a part of the team.
I hope some of the fine detail of this can be sorted out, so all players can make the most out of this amazing opportunity.
As being a previous qualifier to this very tournament, I think I should add some opinions and advise following my experience in TSP. Being a part of TSP could be a fantastic experience for anybody and is a fantastic idea by sky to make ordinary online players, into something a bit less ordinary. When I had first qualified for TSP I had absolutely no idea what any of it was about. And I fully understand that not only was this a new experience for me, but I was also very new to sky poker also. I hope the points I make in this post does not offend anybody, but hope that it may make the experience for future TSP’s more of an awesome experience that it could be. I’m not very good at posts and writing so I’m just going start with my experience. My biggest worries about wining TSP was the lack of information and my job. For me just to get 1 day off work in 2 weeks time can be a massive battle. Tikay has said above “all information is available just by pressing a tab” even now I read that and it gives no information what so ever. Just days after winning this tournament I had seen on sky 865 that “team sky poker” would be heading up to Manchester for the GUKPT. I had no idea if this included myself and received absolutely no information about this. I would suggest an email of package details including time and dates with sufficient notice, to make this an experience for the working class and not just for the unemployed and the poker pros. It was only when I appeared on master cash and of course sky pulsed it to watch, and that Richard Orford suggested that I may be invited to SPT Luton. Again, I received absolutely no information about this, but arranged to book the day off work in case I may be invited. Two days before the event I had to email Tikay to ask if I would be invited, to which he replied “of course and that I would be a guest player”. I was expecting at this event to meet the rest of the team and to be made very welcome and even some red carpet treatment. However I was never introduce to the team, and Tikay said much less than 10 words to me and spent less that 10 seconds with me, all very disappointing for the time and effort I had giving to TSP. Although for me it was still a fantastic and exciting experience. I guess what I am saying are lots more planning and lots lots more information is needed to make this a fun experience for everyone. Even now I have had no idea what the double points for cash means to me if anything, Don’t know if I will be invited to a £1000 event, and don’t even know if I am still a part of the team. I hope some of the fine detail of this can be sorted out, so all players can make the most out of this amazing opportunity. Posted by SolidStan1
Hi Darren,
I am doing PTP this evening, so am tied up in several Tournaments at the mo, but I have to answer this briefly now, & then, after my PTP, more fully later.
Firstly, I apologise 100% if I did not give you the time & attention at Luton you deserved. So many faces, so many names, my head spins at those Events, but I'm really sorry.
As to the lack of Info you received, there is, I feel bound to point out, a grave misunderstanding, or "disconnect", here.
When you won the TSP Membership, I contacted you, by telephone. You said that you wished to "pass" the Membership to "4FingersAA". I said I'd seek guidance from upstairs, but eventually, after much furrowed brows, we felt it inappropriate, & would cause unrest, suspicion, & be fundamentally unfair on others, who had just "missed" qualification. Some of this was discussed on this Forum, & will still be there, if someone cares to look for it. Discussion also took place, I think, with "4FingersAA".
You were very nervous about it, but I said "look Darren, there is NO rush, take your time, accept it, you'll be just fine". This went on for some weeks, over several 'phone convos.
Eventually, on February 1st, you agreed to accept it. On February 2nd, you wrote me a lovely note, via e-Mail, confirming your acceptance, & thanked me, beautifully & kindly, for being so patient with you. The GUKPT Manchester was January 28th - 30th - days BEFORE you accepted TSP Membership, unless I have got my head in a tizzle here. And I may have.......
I'll e-Mail or ring you tomorrow, so this misunderstanding can be cleared up privately, as, I believe, it should be, but given you have Posted as above, I feel I do need to explain to others that things are not quite what they may seem, after reading your Post.
I hope I have not misrepresented anything, or got any dates wrong, but what I have written here is my honest recollection of everything, & I still have your e-Mail dated February 2nd.
I'll ring you or write to you tomorrow, Darren.
Feel free to respond on thread if you feel I have not explained the situation as it actually was.
In Response to Re: Team Sky Poker Qualification, any questions? : I was under the impression that if you qualified via the poker points/ 3 month tourney that you were invited to join the team as a full player, not a guest player, the way you describe it seems that the TSP has a core player team and a guest/3 month temporary member, which seems like a two tier system. Posted by loonytoons
That's a little disingenous, Loony.
ALL TSP Members are invited to ALL TSP's, & as they do not pay, they are classified as "Guests". So yes, I told Darren that he would be "invited as a Guest". People either qualify Online, buy-in direct, or are "Guests", that's the only 3 categories. So all TSP-ers are invited to all SPT's as "Guests".
Really, I don't have a need to defend anything here. We make mistakes, lots of them, or I certainly do, but there is no hidden meaning, & deffo no porkies.
Darren's Invite as a Guest was exactly in line with every other TSP Memebrs's invite - they are all deemed to be "Guests". Any TSP Member will confirm that.
I am mid my PTP Tourneys right now, so this is a bit awkward right now, but I'll field any questions, any time.
the SPT events are not about tsp members anyway, what was expected? be carried in on a giant pillow whilst you wore a a robe and crown with semi-naked women feeding you grapes?
I have no idea why loonies post was deleted (could have been worded better yes) and the same with my response and had tikay not "quoted" the question then his response would have looked stupid in the thread - it was obviously a post that looney wanted answered and there is nothing to hide behind as tikay has explained in his response so deffo no need to delete - common sense ftw plz mods
the SPT events are not about tsp members anyway, what was expected? be carried in on a giant pillow whilst you wore a a robe and crown with semi-naked women feeding you grapes? Posted by hurst05
I have no idea why loonies post was deleted (could have been worded better yes) and the same with my response and had tikay not "quoted" the question then his response would have looked stupid in the thread - it was obviously a post that looney wanted answered and there is nothing to hide behind as tikay has explained in his response so deffo no need to delete - common sense ftw plz mods Posted by dylan12
Whoops - almost certainly my fault, that, my apologies.
I tried to delete a Post of mine which I was not fully happy with, & it's entirely possible I Deleted his &/or yours too, in error.
But, as you note, I quoted his Post in my reply to him, so it's not as if I as trying to hide it, or swerve it.
In Response to Re: Team Sky Poker Qualification, any questions? : Whoops - almost certainly my fault, that, my apologies. I tried to delete a Post of mine which I was not fully happy with, & it's entirely possible I Deleted his &/or yours too, in error. But, as you note, I quoted his Post in my reply to him, so it's not as if I as trying to hide it, or swerve it. If I Deleted in error, my apologies, though. Am having a right mare tonight....... Roll on tomorrow, it can't be this bad! Posted by Tikay10
lol - old age and all that
It was pointed out to me that they got deleted (shows you my level of attention - I didn't even notice) and the comment came "why they deleting those posts, what are sky trying to hide" da de da - you know the score.
Your response was spot on, just, you know how some may have interpreted it had they seen that posts had been deleted that is all.
Nothing to see here - and my appologies to the mods for jumping the gun - but it was meant in goodwill.
In Response to Re: Team Sky Poker Qualification, any questions? : lol - old age and all that It was pointed out to me that they got deleted (shows you my level of attention - I didn't even notice) and the comment came "why they deleting those posts, what are sky trying to hide" da de da - you know the score. Your response was spot on, just, you know how some may have interpreted it had they seen that posts had been deleted that is all. Nothing to see here - and my appologies to the mods for jumping the gun - but it was meant in goodwill. Posted by dylan12
Yup, I've seen that tosh a thousand times. Not once have they produced a shred of evidence though, & they never apologise either.
welsh people are lucky they can post on forums anyway. should be capped at 1 post per day at most tbf. Posted by hurst05
Lol, count me out on that one Hursty, I gave up having all the "fun" with the Welsh lads after the Gray/Keys affair, everyone is out to entrap these days.
Listen to this - a true story.
A Sky Poker Client wrote to 865 yesterday, & said "tikay is the most disingenuous toxic **** I have ever heard, you should be ashamed of employing him, he never stops taking the mick out of the cockneys, I'm sick of it".
And I'm thinking, err, what? Me? Cockney bashing? Remind me when & where? Like, EVER. I replied to him & asked. He never replied. There's a thing.
its become a new hobby, kinda like bird watching. people sat on the sofa waiting for someone to say something on tele they can get the pitch forks and torches out for.
Fair play to you for even being on tonight Sir considering you are still recovering from being ill - look after yourself please, especially at your age
Hursty Bashing FTW!! Fair play to you for even being on tonight Sir considering you are still recovering from being ill - look after yourself please, especially at your age Posted by dylan12
Bet he's got his mummy giving him regular lucozade and grapes if he's ill
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I'll reply to all the questions in the morning, or later tonight, Guys, bit pulled out at the mo.
fwiw I think it's fairly bad that Sky don't enter the team in the UKIPTs. I know the tour is sponsored by w/e site but they have 100pc more exposure to not just players but also the media. Look how much coverage they receive in comparison, + if one of the lads gets on the feature tbl in their Sky hoody it's like wiiii for you. The tourneys are also 500 not 1.5 so more of the team can play more tourneys.
If it's bcos we don't want to be playing in a tour sponsored by ***zzz then that's dumb bcos everyone knows about that site anyway, you'll be gaining far more customers than you lose by simply pointing us to follow our team in a tournament sponsored by someone else.
TY
As being a previous qualifier to this very tournament, I think I should add some opinions and advise following my experience in TSP.
Being a part of TSP could be a fantastic experience for anybody and is a fantastic idea by sky to make ordinary online players, into something a bit less ordinary. When I had first qualified for TSP I had absolutely no idea what any of it was about. And I fully understand that not only was this a new experience for me, but I was also very new to sky poker also. I hope the points I make in this post does not offend anybody, but hope that it may make the experience for future TSP’s more of an awesome experience that it could be.
I’m not very good at posts and writing so I’m just going start with my experience. My biggest worries about wining TSP was the lack of information and my job. For me just to get 1 day off work in 2 weeks time can be a massive battle. Tikay has said above “all information is available just by pressing a tab” even now I read that and it gives no information what so ever.
Just days after winning this tournament I had seen on sky 865 that “team sky poker” would be heading up to Manchester for the GUKPT. I had no idea if this included myself and received absolutely no information about this. I would suggest an email of package details including time and dates with sufficient notice, to make this an experience for the working class and not just for the unemployed and the poker pros.
It was only when I appeared on master cash and of course sky pulsed it to watch, and that Richard Orford suggested that I may be invited to SPT Luton. Again, I received absolutely no information about this, but arranged to book the day off work in case I may be invited. Two days before the event I had to email Tikay to ask if I would be invited, to which he replied “of course and that I would be a guest player”. I was expecting at this event to meet the rest of the team and to be made very welcome and even some red carpet treatment. However I was never introduce to the team, and Tikay said much less than 10 words to me and spent less that 10 seconds with me, all very disappointing for the time and effort I had giving to TSP. Although for me it was still a fantastic and exciting experience.
I guess what I am saying are lots more planning and lots lots more information is needed to make this a fun experience for everyone. Even now I have had no idea what the double points for cash means to me if anything, Don’t know if I will be invited to a £1000 event, and don’t even know if I am still a part of the team.
I hope some of the fine detail of this can be sorted out, so all players can make the most out of this amazing opportunity.
I am doing PTP this evening, so am tied up in several Tournaments at the mo, but I have to answer this briefly now, & then, after my PTP, more fully later.
Firstly, I apologise 100% if I did not give you the time & attention at Luton you deserved. So many faces, so many names, my head spins at those Events, but I'm really sorry.
As to the lack of Info you received, there is, I feel bound to point out, a grave misunderstanding, or "disconnect", here.
When you won the TSP Membership, I contacted you, by telephone. You said that you wished to "pass" the Membership to "4FingersAA". I said I'd seek guidance from upstairs, but eventually, after much furrowed brows, we felt it inappropriate, & would cause unrest, suspicion, & be fundamentally unfair on others, who had just "missed" qualification. Some of this was discussed on this Forum, & will still be there, if someone cares to look for it. Discussion also took place, I think, with "4FingersAA".
You were very nervous about it, but I said "look Darren, there is NO rush, take your time, accept it, you'll be just fine". This went on for some weeks, over several 'phone convos.
Eventually, on February 1st, you agreed to accept it. On February 2nd, you wrote me a lovely note, via e-Mail, confirming your acceptance, & thanked me, beautifully & kindly, for being so patient with you. The GUKPT Manchester was January 28th - 30th - days BEFORE you accepted TSP Membership, unless I have got my head in a tizzle here. And I may have.......
I'll e-Mail or ring you tomorrow, so this misunderstanding can be cleared up privately, as, I believe, it should be, but given you have Posted as above, I feel I do need to explain to others that things are not quite what they may seem, after reading your Post.
I hope I have not misrepresented anything, or got any dates wrong, but what I have written here is my honest recollection of everything, & I still have your e-Mail dated February 2nd.
I'll ring you or write to you tomorrow, Darren.
Feel free to respond on thread if you feel I have not explained the situation as it actually was.
Thanks.
ALL TSP Members are invited to ALL TSP's, & as they do not pay, they are classified as "Guests". So yes, I told Darren that he would be "invited as a Guest". People either qualify Online, buy-in direct, or are "Guests", that's the only 3 categories. So all TSP-ers are invited to all SPT's as "Guests".
Really, I don't have a need to defend anything here. We make mistakes, lots of them, or I certainly do, but there is no hidden meaning, & deffo no porkies.
Darren's Invite as a Guest was exactly in line with every other TSP Memebrs's invite - they are all deemed to be "Guests". Any TSP Member will confirm that.
I am mid my PTP Tourneys right now, so this is a bit awkward right now, but I'll field any questions, any time.
I tried to delete a Post of mine which I was not fully happy with, & it's entirely possible I Deleted his &/or yours too, in error.
But, as you note, I quoted his Post in my reply to him, so it's not as if I as trying to hide it, or swerve it.
If I Deleted in error, my apologies, though.
Am having a right mare tonight.......
Roll on tomorrow, it can't be this bad!
Prob best I say no more.
Listen to this - a true story.
A Sky Poker Client wrote to 865 yesterday, & said "tikay is the most disingenuous toxic **** I have ever heard, you should be ashamed of employing him, he never stops taking the mick out of the cockneys, I'm sick of it".
And I'm thinking, err, what? Me? Cockney bashing? Remind me when & where? Like, EVER. I replied to him & asked. He never replied. There's a thing.
meh
xx