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does he have kings?

CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
edited May 2011 in The Poker Clinic
First hand of £3.30 dym, does he have pocket kings? ace king? was fold correct?
reddevil92 Small blind   10.00 10.00 1990.00
alyman Big blind   20.00 30.00 1980.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 8
     
sandy1989 Fold        
gylo76 Raise   100.00 130.00 1900.00
Gary401 Fold        
Crunchybob Call   100.00 230.00 1900.00
reddevil92 Fold        
alyman Fold        
Flop
   
  • A
  • 3
  • 8
     
gylo76 Check        
Crunchybob Bet   115.00 345.00 1785.00
gylo76 Call   115.00 460.00 1785.00
Turn
   
  • K
     
gylo76 All-in   1785.00 2245.00 0.00
Crunchybob Fold        
gylo76 Muck        
gylo76 Win   460.00   460.00
gylo76 Return   1785.00 0.00 2245.00
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited May 2011
    Run arounnd do a little dance then call imo, only hand i put him on that were losing to is AK if he has a set your just unlucky i snap this off.
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  • DannyMcsDannyMcs Member Posts: 471
    edited May 2011
    Assuming villain isn't a known spoz why would he check call AK on a flushing A high flop? If he was trying to be tricky his next move probably isn't to smash it in when he hits top two. I would rule out AK, though who knows at £3 DYM?

    I would call expecting to see a lot of qj/dd/cc draws here, maybe a set of 8s, but I make poor decisions so it was probably the KK ;)









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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited May 2011
    fold pre, save urslelf the problem
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  • yuranASSetyuranASSet Member Posts: 485
    edited May 2011
    Fold pre.
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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    Jeez why does everyone always say fold pre, you think ppl win poker tournemants by folding pre everytime? i had a suited ace, first hand of the dym thought i'd have a pop. i ended up cashing so i must of done something right lol.
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited May 2011
    The way it played i dont think it is AK. Does look a lot like KK to be fair.

    Anymore info on villain? Its very early in proceedings. Does he play mega tight early doors in these usually? If he does then KK is very likely.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited May 2011
    I think its a snap call, also dont mind the call pre because we have a suited ace in position
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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    Thankyou Young Gun, someone with a brain cell lol. its the first hand in this dym, so i have no info, i wasnt going to risk being eliminated so i folded, i think he could of done 2 things, hit kings and checked to which i would of fired another barrel, or panicked at seeing such a brilliant hand and hitting all in. if he did hit then im glad he went all in and saved me chips :)
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: does he have kings?:
    Jeez why does everyone always say fold pre, you think ppl win poker tournemants by folding pre everytime? i had a suited ace, first hand of the dym thought i'd have a pop. i ended up cashing so i must of done something right lol.
    Posted by Crunchybob
    this

    esp when ur gonna get urself in2 sticky spots where u dnt know wot 2 do

    having called pre this is now a call
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: does he have kings?:
    Jeez why does everyone always say fold pre, you think ppl win poker tournemants by folding pre everytime? i had a suited ace, first hand of the dym thought i'd have a pop. i ended up cashing so i must of done something right lol.
    Posted by Crunchybob
    Maybe you just did less things wrong than the 3 that failed ;)
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited May 2011
    I think he can stack of 77 + here still, i dont think he ever has Kings fwiw , only hand im worried about is AK but people are silly in these so i still snap call
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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    so the 3 things that failed? calling pre flop, folding after shove? and the other one is?

    i see it so many times, ppl folding hand after hand, then u get to level 5 or 6 with around 10bbs and just looking for a marginal hand to shove only for someone to call with a better hand. doesnt it make sense to see a cheaper flop with semi hands that could hit?
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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    even with a mid pair, so early on wit no reads ppl get worried about the aces, kings etc hitting. dont fink he would risk his tournament life for a measley 460 chips...looking back on it, i think i played this hand well and made the right fold in the end.
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  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited May 2011

    This is a very standard fold preflop, everyday day of the week, in a DYM.

    Once you have called pre you have to stack off imo otherwise there is no point in the playing the hand in the first place.

    Q. What were you hoping to hit when you called preflop with A8s?

    A. Two pair or a flush.

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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    yeh or quad aces :)...
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: does he have kings?:
    even with a mid pair, so early on wit no reads ppl get worried about the aces, kings etc hitting. dont fink he would risk his tournament life for a measley 460 chips...looking back on it, i think i played this hand well and made the right fold in the end.
    Posted by Crunchybob
    LOL why post and then comeback to say you think you played it best, have a look at different views and next time your in a similar position you will judge it better maybe if you bet a bit more.

    Blinds are low also so you still have enough chips to comeback :P
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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    i posted it straight away as it happened, as i was sittng there thinking if he had kings or ace king, wouldnt he just trap me? i appreciate the comments and stuff, but looking back on it and seeing as i did cash i think folding was the best option. was wondering how other ppl wud play it.
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: does he have kings?:
    i posted it straight away as it happened, as i was sittng there thinking if he had kings or ace king, wouldnt he just trap me? i appreciate the comments and stuff, but looking back on it and seeing as i did cash i think folding was the best option. was wondering how other ppl wud play it.
    Posted by Crunchybob
    results orientated pokerz FTW!

    if u dnt wish for gd advice and 2b corrected dnt post hands!

    dym's have a pretty easy strategy (esp at the lower levels) which enables u2 get the highest poss % of cashes over time, and in this case, u av played all 3 streets incorrect!
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    fold pre, fistpump get it in on turn
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  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited May 2011
    now thats where i dont understand.

    street 1. matter of opinion whether or not i shud of got involved or not. some said yes some said no.

    street 2. i hit top 2 pair on flop. i bet the pot, he calls(not much else i can do here).

    street 3. king on turn, he goes all in. i think either representing ace king, or set of kings. i fold...some ppl are saying shove and some fold.

    personally i don't think i did ne fing wrong, i was purely asking ppl at the time whether or not they think he had ace king or kings...i was confused cos if i had ace king or kings, i would of checked, for him to probably bet, for me to either re-raise or call, but try and eventually go all in.

    whether i wud of cashed or not this hand still took place, so kinda guess its not all results orientate :).
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