Street 1 it can go either way call or fold here depending on how nitty you are
Street 2, bet more
From turn its really about getting it all in imo
Shanx is spot on though i dont think you should be posting replies such as its all about opinions and mine is right, if you want people to be constructive i suggest maybe you listen or maybe have a debate
Read through this post from beginning to end after YG's above comment.
Key issue with DYM is your not playing to win, just not to lose, so you dont really want to be gambling too much. Calling with "a suited A" A8 is gambling tbf, especially calling off 5bb's from EP raiser.
I think your overall approach is interesting. Your comment about coming in when blinds are small rather than whittling down and jamming 10B's later on does have merit. But then electing to fold when one of the hands you've come in on early with connects so well does seem very counter intuitive.
Personally I've always felt that the above approach is very dangerous. As your likely always going to be hitting some aspect of the board, creepy creepy catching monkey, investing over streets, ending up in no mans land. If your sat deep you have more post flop options, but these dyms are pretty shallow turbo's, with no real margin for coming in significantly behind and catching up.
now thats where i dont understand. street 1. matter of opinion whether or not i shud of got involved or not. some said yes some said no. street 2. i hit top 2 pair on flop. i bet the pot, he calls(not much else i can do here). street 3. king on turn, he goes all in. i think either representing ace king, or set of kings. i fold...some ppl are saying shove and some fold. personally i don't think i did ne fing wrong, i was purely asking ppl at the time whether or not they think he had ace king or kings...i was confused cos if i had ace king or kings, i would of checked, for him to probably bet, for me to either re-raise or call, but try and eventually go all in. whether i wud of cashed or not this hand still took place, so kinda guess its not all results orientate . Posted by Crunchybob
Read through this post from beginning to end after YG's above comment. Key issue with DYM is your not playing to win, just not to lose, so you dont really want to be gambling too much. Calling with "a suited A" A8 is gambling tbf, especially calling off 5bb's from EP raiser. I think your overall approach is interesting. Your comment about coming in when blinds are small rather than whittling down and jamming 10B's later on does have merit. But then electing to fold when one of the hands you've come in on early with connects so well does seem very counter intuitive. Personally I've always felt that the above approach is very dangerous. As your likely always going to be hitting some aspect of the board, creepy creepy catching monkey, investing over streets, ending up in no mans land. If your sat deep you have more post flop options, but these dyms are pretty shallow turbo's, with no real margin for coming in significantly behind and catching up. Each to their own tho Posted by AMYBR
thats prob the biggest prob wiv this hand, u cnt call a utg 5x pre wiv a8 then fold a8x
i guess its all about opinions and peoples style of playing dyms, guess we all have a successful way of playing them or we wont be on this site for long.
i do appreciate the help and tips etc..even if i was criticizing people. shan was saying i played it all completely wrong where as i thought i played it ok.
plus i seen shan fold n shove their way to the money before (last night £11 dym, bit of a monster got to level 9).
hopefully if i see u on the tables agen, u think im loose when im sitting with aces
ps. ye i no i sed i bet full pot, even tho i did half pot my mistake.
i guess its all about opinions and peoples style of playing dyms, guess we all have a successful way of playing them or we wont be on this site for long. i do appreciate the help and tips etc..even if i was criticizing people. shan was saying i played it all completely wrong where as i thought i played it ok. plus i seen shan fold n shove their way to the money before (last night £11 dym, bit of a monster got to level 9). hopefully if i see u on the tables agen, u think im loose when im sitting with aces ps. ye i no i sed i bet full pot, even tho i did half pot my mistake. Posted by Crunchybob
had a feelin u'd bring this up
1st of all yes i won a flip 2 stay in the game but my ship with KT was correct, alot of the time it gets thru, this time i got looked up by nines, and won the flip.
i think ur failin 2 understand a massive part of the game thou, after that i continued 2 increase my chip count without showing a hand, pressuring the other 3 stacks, inc u, on the bubble as it becomes diff 4 people 2 call unless they wake up with a monster. In this case, by the time i walked my A3 in2 ur JJ u only had 1.2k left, and my stack could afford to take that hit, so i'm ~30% to end the dym there, failin that, i try 2 carry on as before.
u need to learn to play the dynamics of a dym, u can't just rely on ur cards
In Response to Re: does he have kings? : had a feelin u'd bring this up 1st of all yes i won a flip 2 stay in the game but my ship with KT was correct, alot of the time it gets thru, this time i got looked up by nines, and won the flip. i think ur failin 2 understand a massive part of the game thou, after that i continued 2 increase my chip count without showing a hand, pressuring the other 3 stacks, inc u, on the bubble as it becomes diff 4 people 2 call unless they wake up with a monster. In this case, by the time i walked my A3 in2 ur JJ u only had 1.2k left, and my stack could afford to take that hit, so i'm ~30% to end the dym there, failin that, i try 2 carry on as before. u need to learn to play the dynamics of a dym, u can't just rely on ur cards Posted by SHANXTA
I need to learn? where was the dynamics, in calling a all in with ace 3, offsuit, ppl are only shoving with premium hands. plus i was chip leader for pretty much early stages.
but it was a sick hand hitting jack on turn and river lol, but that was a intense match, glad i got aces in last hand and smooth called so the player went all in with q 10
bob, its a fold pre to a 5bb raise, you are too often dominated and in a dym conserving chips is really important. If the raise was smaller and you have good reads and play well postflop you maybe could call, but in general its a standard fold. Looking for good oppurtunities to steal is a better option than making marginal calls pre
bob, its a fold pre to a 5bb raise, you are too often dominated and in a dym conserving chips is really important. If the raise was smaller and you have good reads and play well postflop you maybe could call, but in general its a standard fold. Looking for good oppurtunities to steal is a better option than making marginal calls pre Posted by grantorino
yeh, 5bb's i agree with, if its cash game im folding, however ppl raise it bigger in the early stages to build pot up, hence why i called.
i think the call pre flop depends on your style of play, some have said call is ok, some have said not.
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The turn jam is the kind of thing you see people do when turning a set there, so I understand why you suspected K's.
Still its going to be a tricky fold, could so easily be so many other hands
Street 2, bet more
From turn its really about getting it all in imo
Shanx is spot on though i dont think you should be posting replies such as its all about opinions and mine is right, if you want people to be constructive i suggest maybe you listen or maybe have a debate
Key issue with DYM is your not playing to win, just not to lose, so you dont really want to be gambling too much. Calling with "a suited A" A8 is gambling tbf, especially calling off 5bb's from EP raiser.
I think your overall approach is interesting. Your comment about coming in when blinds are small rather than whittling down and jamming 10B's later on does have merit. But then electing to fold when one of the hands you've come in on early with connects so well does seem very counter intuitive.
Personally I've always felt that the above approach is very dangerous. As your likely always going to be hitting some aspect of the board, creepy creepy catching monkey, investing over streets, ending up in no mans land. If your sat deep you have more post flop options, but these dyms are pretty shallow turbo's, with no real margin for coming in significantly behind and catching up.
Each to their own tho
5x bb raise i would not be calling with anything but QQ+ here
if it was a 2 x or maybe 3 x i dont mind flatting here pre but ignore the rest of what i said, Cheers AMYBR you made me realise it was a 5 x raise
im with stupid :P
i do appreciate the help and tips etc..even if i was criticizing people. shan was saying i played it all completely wrong where as i thought i played it ok.
plus i seen shan fold n shove their way to the money before (last night £11 dym, bit of a monster got to level 9).
hopefully if i see u on the tables agen, u think im loose when im sitting with aces
ps. ye i no i sed i bet full pot, even tho i did half pot my mistake.
You hit a dream flop & still had to lay this down later
Later on in a tourney maybe ok but i think 1st hand there will be better spots
I need to learn? where was the dynamics, in calling a all in with ace 3, offsuit, ppl are only shoving with premium hands. plus i was chip leader for pretty much early stages.
but it was a sick hand hitting jack on turn and river lol, but that was a intense match, glad i got aces in last hand and smooth called so the player went all in with q 10
You seriously going to spend the whole dym waiting for premium hands? blinds increasing fast.
crazy imo
i think the call pre flop depends on your style of play, some have said call is ok, some have said not.
lol. this thread is dragging on abit now.
Does anyone actually think he has kings or ace king? lmao.