pretty clear fold to me. We're second in chips in decent shape. Getting involved with chip leader here just isnt great.
I rekon we're likley flipping in honesty. And that means we're putting a simple cash on a 50% shot. I think if we have a skill edge we dont need to take the risk.
I noticed a comment above why wouldnt he just raise AA/KK, simple its a dym bubble. shorter stacks will call wider, and its always better to be putting your opponents to the desision than calling off, even with a big hand.
i also seen someone else ask about KK pre here. If i think i have a big edge i likley do fold in honesty, simply because i have the edge and rekon i can pick up blinds by shoving myself.
Also to state im not really a dym player, but my two pennies.
I totally understand ppl come on to learn, i come on here to learn to, but just seem like people cant wait to critisize, i posted a hand about me folding top 2 pair when a king hit, asking if ppl think he had kings or ace king... all everyone said was fold pre flop. all i've said is personally i'd call. obv the very next hand u cashed but it could of been different.
I totally understand ppl come on to learn, i come on here to learn to, but just seem like people cant wait to critisize, i posted a hand about me folding top 2 pair when a king hit, asking if ppl think he had kings or ace king... all everyone said was fold pre flop. all i've said is personally i'd call. obv the very next hand u cashed but it could of been different. Posted by Crunchybob
I welcome all posts - Wouldn,t be the game it is if everyone thought the same way
If the stack sizes had been slightly different or it was me to act 1st , or if the dynamics of the game had been different it might have been a different story and yeah - It could have worked out differently - But I was looking for answers for the long term really and feel re-assured this was the correct decision in this situation and I,ve taken all points mentioned on this thread on board
Think you have the stacks of two shorties wrong 1200 chips short in total, that been said adding 600 each to there stacks QQ should enter the muck most always, unless hes shoving any 2 and KK becomes a fold sometimes depending on villians range imo. AK is a big leak if called.
Edit: wether I fold QQ in the heat of the game is another matter but from a purely maths, ICM, equity perspective QQ should be a fold
I havent studied dym strat but I reckon its a pretty clear fold. You are never a huge favourite against any range you give him. Anyone able to do an ICM calc for this Posted by grantorino
I did the ICM for this hand adding 600 chips to the two short stacks and got AK as a massive negative equity on the call. The cutoff is QQ only if villian shoves with any two and KK folds from a standard non any two, top 30% range ish (cant remember exactly on villans shove range for KK but it was fairly standard) is a fold.
In Response to Re: DYM decision on the bubble??? : Haha there that good he has now locked his stats go figure Posted by YOUNG_GUN
Wow..was waiting for this..
fyi the stats are incorrect..i joined in feb(with free £5) and got my br upto £20, but then played/ran bad and lost it all, deposited about a £10er which got doubled and did the same.
since then i've been watching vids reading guides to improve my game.
i got a free £5 cpl weeks ago i haven't deposited and have made over £70 profit.
not that i have to prove anything to anyone as im not particularly bothered about some stats. like grantorino, talk about stooping low.
Sorry that was a bit low/immature although i didnt see your stats so for all i know you could be killing them i was just basing on what you said you had been crushing them
We should let this lie really i think you get the point we have and we get your view and obviously agree to disagree
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I rekon we're likley flipping in honesty. And that means we're putting a simple cash on a 50% shot. I think if we have a skill edge we dont need to take the risk.
I noticed a comment above why wouldnt he just raise AA/KK, simple its a dym bubble. shorter stacks will call wider, and its always better to be putting your opponents to the desision than calling off, even with a big hand.
i also seen someone else ask about KK pre here. If i think i have a big edge i likley do fold in honesty, simply because i have the edge and rekon i can pick up blinds by shoving myself.
Also to state im not really a dym player, but my two pennies.
If the stack sizes had been slightly different or it was me to act 1st , or if the dynamics of the game had been different it might have been a different story and yeah - It could have worked out differently - But I was looking for answers for the long term really and feel re-assured this was the correct decision in this situation and I,ve taken all points mentioned on this thread on board
Cheers for posting - MP
Edit: wether I fold QQ in the heat of the game is another matter but from a purely maths, ICM, equity perspective QQ should be a fold
bringing someones sharkscope stats into a debate is bad form imo. Make your argument on its own merits
fyi the stats are incorrect..i joined in feb(with free £5) and got my br upto £20, but then played/ran bad and lost it all, deposited about a £10er which got doubled and did the same.
since then i've been watching vids reading guides to improve my game.
i got a free £5 cpl weeks ago i haven't deposited and have made over £70 profit.
not that i have to prove anything to anyone as im not particularly bothered about some stats. like grantorino, talk about stooping low.
We should let this lie really i think you get the point we have and we get your view and obviously agree to disagree
GL at the tables keep up the goodwork