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  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011
    Thanks guys any advice is greatly received!!!!!!!

    p.s. Monkey I might try ur suggestion of the freerolls, I definitely have the patience for them, I love the Deep Stacks so not a stranger to one game lasting 3-4 hours lol (although the freerolls never last that long! :))

    Thanks again

    Lisa
  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    Thanks guys any advice is greatly received!!!!!!! p.s. Monkey I might try ur suggestion of the freerolls, I definitely have the patience for them, I love the Deep Stacks so not a stranger to one game lasting 3-4 hours lol (although the freerolls never last that long! :)) Thanks again Lisa
    Posted by lisar83
    Good luck

    Ps please use the 1st few orbits to mark out your players ( tight - limpers - raisers )

    spot the aggro players raising every pot / entering every pot play your cards hard against them make them pay and let them hang themselves
  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited June 2011
    O YEAH !!

    IN CASE ANYONE MISSED IT!!!!

    TEAM PROTEGEE, YOUNG GUN WON THE DTD FOR US MONDAY!!

    GREAT SUPPORT FROM ALL!!!!

    ESPECIALLY TEAM NUMBERS,123456789, 3rd !!
    & Wynne1938   6th

    ps!!! I Cannot play next Monday, at my stepsons wedding in Italy, I will be with you in spirit,
    and I know you will all do me proud!!!

     Looks if we in top 3, we are gaurenteed the first ever DTD league WIN!!
     So please play if you can, & make sure you register early, Numbers got in by the skin of his numerals last week LOLOLOL !!!


    HITSQUAD FOREVER!!!
  • SighKOSighKO Member Posts: 329
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    O YEAH !! IN CASE ANYONE MISSED IT!!!! TEAM PROTEGEE, YOUNG GUN WON THE DTD FOR US MONDAY!! GREAT SUPPORT FROM ALL!!!! ESPECIALLY TEAM NUMBERS,123456789, 3rd !! & Wynne1938   6th ps!!! I Cannot play next Monday, at my stepsons wedding in Italy, I will be with you in spirit, and I know you will all do me proud!!!  Looks if we in top 3, we are gaurenteed the first ever DTD league WIN!!  So please play if you can, & make sure you register early, Numbers got in by the skin of his numerals last week LOLOLOL !!! HITSQUAD FOREVER!!!
    Posted by HITMAN_RV

    WP Team Protegee ..... again!!

    HS For ever

  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011



    Lisa83 great going on the free rolls two cashes already not long until you take one down

    after watching you in the last freeroll (stalking in secret lol ) i noted you have a great game and nothing really needs to change because your in the mix and cashing but my own opinion is .........If you can post hand 384738349 i will explain a bit more on what i see may improve your game in the later stages ;0) keep it up 

  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011
    Monkey, help!!!!  I'm stuck!!

    I thought I just copied the hand history then pasted here?  It didn't work booooo :(
  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    Monkey, help!!!!  I'm stuck!! I thought I just copied the hand history then pasted here?  It didn't work booooo :(
    Posted by lisar83
    Ha did you go via 'my sky poker tab' select hand history then follow next steps that will bring up hand then drag mouse over hand copy and then paste ?
  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!! : Ha did you go via 'my sky poker tab' select hand history then follow next steps that will bring up hand then drag mouse over hand copy and then paste ?
    Posted by monkey123
    best try make sure test shot below lol
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    piratej19 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £15.96
    TMP14561288 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £4.25
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    emptylocke Fold     
    heapey0015 Fold     
    BG92 Call  £0.10 £0.25 £9.81
    monkey123 Raise  £0.50 £0.75 £8.15
    piratej19 Call  £0.45 £1.20 £15.51
    TMP14561288 Fold     
    BG92 Call  £0.40 £1.60 £9.41
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • A
    • 5
         
    piratej19 Check     
    BG92 Check     
    monkey123 Bet  £1.20 £2.80 £6.95
    piratej19 Fold     
    BG92 Call  £1.20 £4.00 £8.21
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    BG92 Check     
    monkey123 All-in  £6.95 £10.95 £0.00
    BG92 Call  £6.95 £17.90 £1.26
    BG92 Show
    • 6
    • A
       
    monkey123 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    River
       
    • Q
         
    monkey123 Win Two Pairs, Aces and Queens £16.55  £16.55
  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011


    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    lisar83 Small blind   2000.00 2000.00 16080.00
    keithers15 Big blind   4000.00 6000.00 71458.75
      Your hole cards
    • 7
    • 8
         
    tabletop Fold        
    slim55 Fold        
    woody973 Fold        
    devolly17 Call   4000.00 10000.00 78100.00
    lisar83 Call   2000.00 12000.00 14080.00
    keithers15 Check        
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 7
    • 3
         
    lisar83 Bet   4000.00 16000.00 10080.00
    keithers15 Call   4000.00 20000.00 67458.75
    devolly17 Fold        
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    lisar83 Bet   10000.00 30000.00 80.00
    keithers15 Raise   20000.00 50000.00 47458.75
    lisar83 All-in   80.00 50080.00 0.00
    keithers15 Unmatched bet   9920.00 40160.00 57378.75
    lisar83 Show
    • 7
    • 8
         
    keithers15 Show
    • 7
    • J
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    keithers15 Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 7s 40160.00   97538.75
  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011
    Woohoo finally!!!  I think I may have been tilting slightly hehe
  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    Woohoo finally!!!  I think I may have been tilting slightly hehe
    Posted by lisar83
    Ok here we go please note this is just my own opinion on watching pretty much the whole tournament

    1 your game dose need to change in the build up to cash stages but what i have noticed is your limping into pots or making up small blinds to limpers this is where i feel you need to be more aggressive pick on the people that are happy to fold blinds to ladder up.

    2 i have choose your exit hand as a classic example

    Things i noticed from players involved in hand ok your in small blind  with 16k back keithers15 is a serial limper he has the stack to do this if he wishes but he folds on flop if he misses (easy read ) good spot to steal chips and big blind devolly tight image looks happy to stay out of trouble and play cards he has infront of him.

    ok so back to the hand taking these factors into account devolly is in for 4k bb keithers standard limp call the 4k your sitting in small blind with connecters IMO i push here if im playing this hand 10k in pot already that's 63% increase to your stack just taking the pot down there and then. watching them both play for a while im confident they both fold to your all in unless you walk into a monster your unlucky but not dead you have outs and are very live still i would imagine . by calling your 2k to make up the blinds your missing out on the 63% increase with the push and infact risking around 13% of your stack to call, when  you hit the flop your not going  anywhere with your stack and are forced to continue very unlucky about kicker but again the push there takes the flop out of your control if your are called leave it to poker gods and if you do hit your outs you double up anyway so i think risk and reward needs to come to mind in them spots

    so overall dont change your play because you got the game just bare in mind my pointers and hope it helps again this is just what i would do in this spot and im sure other THS members will have there own views

    ps make sure you watch what your oppenents are like before making any decisions this is where u find your spots against the players you know back ground on


    hope this helps

    monkey123
  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!! : Ok here we go please note this is just my own opinion on watching pretty much the whole tournament 1 your game dose need to change in the build up to cash stages but what i have noticed is your limping into pots or making up small blinds to limpers this is where i feel you need to be more aggressive pick on the people that are happy to fold blinds to ladder up. 2 i have choose your exit hand as a classic example Things i noticed from players involved in hand ok your in small blind  with 16k back keithers15 is a serial limper he has the stack to do this if he wishes but he folds on flop if he misses (easy read ) good spot to steal chips and big blind devolly tight image looks happy to stay out of trouble and play cards he has infront of him. ok so back to the hand taking these factors into account devolly is in for 4k bb keithers standard limp call the 4k your sitting in small blind with connecters IMO i push here if im playing this hand 10k in pot already that's 63% increase to your stack just taking the pot down there and then. watching them both play for a while im confident they both fold to your all in unless you walk into a monster your unlucky but not dead you have outs and are very live still i would imagine . by calling your 2k to make up the blinds your missing out on the 63% increase with the push and infact risking around 13% of your stack to call, when  you hit the flop your not going  anywhere with your stack and are forced to continue very unlucky about kicker but again the push there takes the flop out of your control if your are called leave it to poker gods and if you do hit your outs you double up anyway so i think risk and reward needs to come to mind in them spots so overall dont change your play because you got the game just bare in mind my pointers and hope it helps again this is just what i would do in this spot and im sure other THS members will have there own views ps make sure you watch what your oppenents are like before making any decisions this is where u find your spots against the players you know back ground on hope this helps monkey123
    Posted by monkey123
    That's fab Monkey cheers for the tips.  I honestly never thought of playing that hand any other way than limping in, but it does make sense.  I definitely need to stop playin so tight!!  I still have loads to learn, think I'll start 'secretly stalking' you from now on hehe

    Thanks again, like I said before ur a wee star :)

    p.s. if u were still watching, the less said about the way I played that 99 in the DS the better................lol

    Speak soon :)
  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!! : That's fab Monkey cheers for the tips.  I honestly never thought of playing that hand any other way than limping in, but it does make sense.  I definitely need to stop playin so tight!!  I still have loads to learn, think I'll start 'secretly stalking' you from now on hehe Thanks again, like I said before ur a wee star :) p.s. if u were still watching, the less said about the way I played that 99 in the DS the better................lol Speak soon :)
    Posted by lisar83
    No problems mate THS stick together and move forward as a team i just hope it helps lol or im in trouble.

    ps i saw the back end of the 99 hand i was looking at some notes on freeroll lol you was short stacked by then im not sure how the betting went but im pushing pre all day there with your stack

    GOOD LUCK
  • monkey123monkey123 Member Posts: 590
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!! : That's fab Monkey cheers for the tips.  I honestly never thought of playing that hand any other way than limping in, but it does make sense.  I definitely need to stop playin so tight!!  I still have loads to learn, think I'll start 'secretly stalking' you from now on hehe Thanks again, like I said before ur a wee star :) p.s. if u were still watching, the less said about the way I played that 99 in the DS the better................lol Speak soon :)
    Posted by lisar83
    1 question on above line to keep in mind

    If you chose to limp and big blind pushes what would you do ? lose the 4k or call ?
    put the pressure on them dont leave your self in a tricky spot get em in 1st, because if i was him in big blind with 2 limpers im raising that pot with ANY 2 cards and the ' limpers with 78 ' are prob gonna fold right ? and my 72 gets the 10k pot because i look strong raising the 2 limpers correct ? and they have the tricky situation to think about not you!!!! they will be sitting there and thinking ohhhhhhhh no i gotta fold loooooooool just like how you would feel if he pushed, when infact the raise /push looks strong against these hands and most will FOLD (player dependent)
  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!! :

    1 question on above line to keep in mind If you chose to limp and big blind pushes what would you do?..

    lose the 4k or call ?.....

    put the pressure on them, dont leave your self in a tricky spot get em in 1st, because if i was him in big blind with 2 limpers im raising that pot with ANY 2 cards and the ' limpers with 78 ' are prob gonna fold right ?

     and my 72 gets the 10k pot because i look strong raising the 2 limpers correct ?.....

    and they have the tricky situation to think about not you!!!!


    They will be sitting there and thinking ohhhhhhhh no i gotta fold loooooooool just like how you would feel if he pushed, when infact the raise /push looks strong against these hands and most will FOLD (player dependent)


    Posted by monkey123


    Good Teamwork Monkey!!

    Really liking the advice,  ONE IMPORTANT POINT!!!

    Every time i make a bet, raise or call, I ask myself this question!!....

     "What will i do if i get re-raised, or shoved Over"??

    You need to have in your mind what u will do if this happens imo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Call, Re-pop, Fold??? again..Player, position, situation, stack dependant, but have it in mind!!!

    When I Considered this, it sealed some leaks i think i had!! Reduced the no. of hands i played, and stopped me wasting chips chasing draws or if i semi-hit etc!!

    ps Monkey, Paragraphs FTW pls, I jus got dizzy reading all that!!!!! LOLOLOL,
     [as shown, sry thanks for helpin mate]
  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!! : 1 question on above line to keep in mind If you chose to limp and big blind pushes what would you do ? lose the 4k or call ? put the pressure on them dont leave your self in a tricky spot get em in 1st, because if i was him in big blind with 2 limpers im raising that pot with ANY 2 cards and the ' limpers with 78 ' are prob gonna fold right ? and my 72 gets the 10k pot because i look strong raising the 2 limpers correct ? and they have the tricky situation to think about not you!!!! they will be sitting there and thinking ohhhhhhhh no i gotta fold loooooooool just like how you would feel if he pushed, when infact the raise /push looks strong against these hands and most will FOLD (player dependent)
    Posted by monkey123
    Well based on all that I'm going to do another freeroll today and I will attempt being more aggressive......watch this space!!!  If I can pull it off I owe u a pint or 2 lol

    Cheers again :)
  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited June 2011
    Nice One Lisar GL!!

    Hope YG can throw some input in, as I realy like his input in the Clinic!! Good reading there Lisar!!

    Anyone Else with advice here, or need bit help in another area!!


    ps. Lisa...

    easy to say retrospectivley, but the amount of times in the clinic, where the best advice, sometimes jokingly is...
    ....FOLD PRE!!!

    NOW..relative to your 7-8 off hand!!

    In this case you lose your SB,

    but again with a so-called value call, you hit a weak top pr against 2 oppo.s, losing to alot of over pairs and maybe racing against an ak aq if u push post flop!!

     I know you & monkey read the table as limping lots lite, but patience for the strong hand should NAIL that Table!!
  • harding10harding10 Member Posts: 849
    edited June 2011
    Lisa, to add to what's above.

    You have a 4 BB stack. You shouldn't be limping with a hand when that short unless you're dealt a big hand and want to take a chance on a double-up.

    Also try not to let yourself get that short in the first place, although it happens if you lose a big hand to a slightly smaller stack than yourself. Try shoving a wider range from a bit further out and see what happens.
  • lisar83lisar83 Member Posts: 426
    edited June 2011
    Thanks guys, you are all super duper helpful!!!  I'll keep u all posted, if u don't hear from me soon it hasn't went well hahaha

    :)
  • HITMAN_RVHITMAN_RV Member Posts: 8,688
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: HitSquad HotNews!!!!!!!!:
    Lisa, to add to what's above. You have a 4 BB stack. You shouldn't be limping with a hand when that short unless you're dealt a big hand and want to take a chance on a double-up. Also try not to let yourself get that short in the first place, although it happens if you lose a big hand to a slightly smaller stack than yourself. Try shoving a wider range from a bit further out and see what happens.
    Posted by harding10
    +1, with you stacked that low, it would be interesting to see the hand before, when you were the BB for i guess prob 4000, [maybe 3000], MAY HAVE BEEN worth pushin there with ANYTHING!! Depending if been action before!!

    BUT Only a call to me hand before I push generally, and would push on One big raiser prob too, obvoulsly depends on bubble & cash etc


      What sort of tourney was it, freeroll i believe, and What was your BB hand, and action to you????
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