In Response to Re: Can we "chat" about the SLEEPER in DYMs? : Teacher has spoken! Posted by Ploppy33
lol, yeh I hate reporting people, all the people that report others for chatbox abuse bla bla bla wind me up, they shud rise above it, we're here to play poker.
But any sign of cheating/collusion in an actual game of poker and I'd encourage anyone to get onto CC right away and push them as hard as they can until something is done about it.
For every game that a cheater is allowed to get away with cheating, some other guys will suffer for it nxt time out, so it should be stopped asap.
I'd gladly accept being abused by every single player for the rest of my poker life, if it means I never play a cheater/colluder again.
That's how big the gulf is between the 2 offences.
Dohhh has spoken close thread. I'm not going to lie about the fact i'd tell ppl to take blinds off a sleeper. Why risk losing money and giving someone who is not there the opportunity to cash..its a no-brainer imo. I've put in chat box to let someone blind out and then all of a sudden this player started playing..how convenient. Ppl that enter a dym and doesn't play should be ashamed. fyi..i was only giving one example of colluding, didn't realise i had to give an essay of colluding for me to understand what is is Posted by Crunchybob
exactly, it's easy enough to do, you shouldn't have to cheat to make sure an away player doesn't cash.
In Response to Re: Can we "chat" about the SLEEPER in DYMs? : this is spot on! how people can moan about away players if you cant beat someone not there then poker isnt the game for you Posted by YOUNG_GUN
stupid post imo, if its hu and u cnt beat them yeh...lets say 2ppl go out 1st level in a dym and one player is away..how could u possibly beat this 'away' player without them blinding out.
In Response to Re: Can we "chat" about the SLEEPER in DYMs? : stupid post imo, if its hu and u cnt beat them yeh...lets say 2ppl go out 1st level in a dym and one player is away..how could u possibly beat this 'away' player without them blinding out. Posted by Crunchybob
lol stupid post from you! haha
there is a different dynamic but the fact they are not playing and cant accumulate chips other then when they are all in they are easy to beat!
Dohhh has spoken close thread. I'm not going to lie about the fact i'd tell ppl to take blinds off a sleeper. Why risk losing money and giving someone who is not there the opportunity to cash..its a no-brainer imo. I've put in chat box to let someone blind out and then all of a sudden this player started playing..how convenient. Ppl that enter a dym and doesn't play should be ashamed. fyi..i was only giving one example of colluding, didn't realise i had to give an essay of colluding for me to understand what is is Posted by Crunchybob
the fact is thay have paid their money and can play how they like within the rules.....i hate the fact that 5 ppl always call my all in when playing the 1st level of a rebuy but they are playing within the rules so no complaints....
if you were in the vlv final with 2 places going to vegas and a massive chip leader with 3/4 players left would you "keep playing" or shut down......
most players feel the same if a player is sat out on the bubble of a dym...but you cant tell others to blind him out(i find the words"i hope this guy sitting out doesnt cash" helps)
I am not on about mtt's...i am on about dyms and dyms only, yes they've paid there money, obv ppl can play how they like, but why shud 3 other ppl battle it out for the last remaning spot to cash when i can easily go on chat and tell them that if we just let the 'sleeper' blind out we can all cash...i see no harm in doing this and certainly wouldnt class it as cheating, i would generally say im a fair player, i been hu with someone who was away after a break for bwt 10 mins and kept the chip counts the same by folding.
I am not on about mtt's...i am on about dyms and dyms only, yes they've paid there money, obv ppl can play how they like, but why shud 3 other ppl battle it out for the last remaning spot to cash when i can easily go on chat and tell them that if we just let the 'sleeper' blind out we can all cash...i see no harm in doing this and certainly wouldnt class it as cheating, i would generally say im a fair player, i been hu with someone who was away after a break for bwt 10 mins and kept the chip counts the same by folding. Posted by Crunchybob
You wouldn't class it as cheating, but it is according to the rules of the game.
Surely you can see that it's wrong, and by doing it you are/have been colluding with other players at the table?
I am not on about mtt's...i am on about dyms and dyms only, yes they've paid there money, obv ppl can play how they like, but why shud 3 other ppl battle it out for the last remaning spot to cash when i can easily go on chat and tell them that if we just let the 'sleeper' blind out we can all cash...i see no harm in doing this and certainly wouldnt class it as cheating, i would generally say im a fair player, i been hu with someone who was away after a break for bwt 10 mins and kept the chip counts the same by folding. Posted by Crunchybob
It doesnt matter what you class it as it is cheating. You and the other players are colluding to deny a player a fair chance to cash. He is perfectly entitled to sit out (tbh it doesnt seem that bad a strategy with some of the hands I see posted from dyms here)
If you were playing a mtt and you lost a flip and were down to 1BB in the blinds on bubble and someone went in chat and said "everyone call to give the biggest chance bob busts out" would you think that was fair? It wouldnt be fair because its colluding to deny you a fair chance. The situation in the dym is pretty much the same. Just adjust your game according to the situation, dont engage in collusion
I think it is common sense when down to 4 in a DYM with a sleeper to blind him out. If by table dynamic everyone shuts down, then you know the other players are thinking the same way. It can even come down to taking turns winning his blinds, without a word being typed in the chatbox. Is this collusion?
I think it is common sense when down to 4 in a DYM with a sleeper to blind him out. If by table dynamic everyone shuts down, then you know the other players are thinking the same way. It can even come down to taking turns winning his blinds, without a word being typed in the chatbox. Is this collusion? Posted by 67Bhoys
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No, I don't think it is as everyone has made there own choice without a word being spoken and not been lead by a comment in the chatbox
I think it is common sense when down to 4 in a DYM with a sleeper to blind him out. If by table dynamic everyone shuts down, then you know the other players are thinking the same way. It can even come down to taking turns winning his blinds, without a word being typed in the chatbox. Is this collusion? Posted by 67Bhoys
Common Sense??? On Sky??? Behave.
I wont ever class it as cheating, it's wrong that people would join a dym just to sit there and not play poker the whole game hoping to cash. Is this really what a dym is turning in to?
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I'm not going to lie about the fact i'd tell ppl to take blinds off a sleeper.
Why risk losing money and giving someone who is not there the opportunity to cash..its a no-brainer imo.
I've put in chat box to let someone blind out and then all of a sudden this player started playing..how convenient.
Ppl that enter a dym and doesn't play should be ashamed.
fyi..i was only giving one example of colluding, didn't realise i had to give an essay of colluding for me to understand what is is
stupid post imo, if its hu and u cnt beat them yeh...lets say 2ppl go out 1st level in a dym and one player is away..how could u possibly beat this 'away' player without them blinding out.
there is a different dynamic but the fact they are not playing and cant accumulate chips other then when they are all in they are easy to beat!
if you were in the vlv final with 2 places going to vegas and a massive chip leader with 3/4 players left would you "keep playing" or shut down......
most players feel the same if a player is sat out on the bubble of a dym...but you cant tell others to blind him out(i find the words"i hope this guy sitting out doesnt cash" helps)
If you type in chat box telling people to let the "away" player blind out, then this is cheating/colluding.
Give me a table with an away player anyday of the week
If you were playing a mtt and you lost a flip and were down to 1BB in the blinds on bubble and someone went in chat and said "everyone call to give the biggest chance bob busts out" would you think that was fair? It wouldnt be fair because its colluding to deny you a fair chance. The situation in the dym is pretty much the same. Just adjust your game according to the situation, dont engage in collusion
I think it is common sense when down to 4 in a DYM with a sleeper to blind him out. If by table dynamic everyone shuts down, then you know the other players are thinking the same way. It can even come down to taking turns winning his blinds, without a word being typed in the chatbox. Is this collusion?
No, I don't think it is as everyone has made there own choice without a word being spoken and not been lead by a comment in the chatbox
I wont ever class it as cheating, it's wrong that people would join a dym just to sit there and not play poker the whole game hoping to cash. Is this really what a dym is turning in to?