In Response to Re: Is this a standard isolate - mini Primo Chip leader : LOOK back at my 1st post and i say fold , why?? cos in 2 yrs of playin over 1400 mtts i have learned to fold HERE xxx Posted by debdobs_67
I think the shove is fine.
I don't mean to be controversial, but......
I'm guessing you are probably a winning player debs.
Say your ROI is 10% profit (I don't know what it is, just a for instance). Say the best players have an ROI of 100%+.
It maybe that making these kind of plays are one of the differences between your game, and a that of a v.good player.
It may not be, but I think it's too easy to say 'that's the way I've always played so it must be the best way'.
I don't mean this personally, just an observation on the post that you made.
With a shove and reshove his range must be isolated to just QQ+ maybe even folds QQ depending how tight he is, and some players might fold AK so basically your hardly EVER being called. When you are called say well done on waking up with a hand and move on.
With a shove and reshove his range must be isolated to just QQ+ maybe even folds QQ depending how tight he is, and some players might fold AK so basically your hardly EVER being called. When you are called say well done on waking up with a hand and move on. Posted by Dudeskin8
Exactly that was my thinking - weak open - only going to be called by four hands max so - all in Snap shoved - didn't even think about folding, more of an after event looking back and analyising this big hand End of the day if I win that hand - I am dominating the whole field sitting with 80 bigs and loving life - If I lose I have 48 bigs and still ok - it's such an easy shove
I didn't get the stack in the first place by folding so.....
Folding in this spot can get you into bad habits and you will be passing way too many winnable hands Cheers, thanks and goodbye I feel ok about my shove now )
Could only even contimplate folding if I was playing MTT's with like 5 BI's or something stupid where I just want to cash, but tbh even if I had just 5 BI's I'd still shove as winning MTT's is the ONLY thing you should aim for when playing them.
Could only even contimplate folding if I was playing MTT's with like 5 BI's or something stupid where I just want to cash, but tbh even if I had just 5 BI's I'd still shove as winning MTT's is the ONLY thing you should aim for when playing them. Posted by Dudeskin8
I don't agree with you there as you can't even think about winning until you reach the FT. Think the main aim when playing MTT's is keeping up or doing better than average chip stack. If your double the average then hey ho wohooooo, but you still can't think about winning it. A couple of hands and you can easily be out so ...... but I kinda understand what your saying as some spots you should not pass and if you do you will never even come close to a FT
In Response to Re: Is this a standard isolate - mini Primo Chip leader : I think the shove is fine. I don't mean to be controversial, but...... I'm guessing you are probably a winning player debs. Say your ROI is 10% profit (I don't know what it is, just a for instance). Say the best players have an ROI of 100%+. It maybe that making these kind of plays are one of the differences between your game, and a that of a v.good player. It may not be, but I think it's too easy to say 'that's the way I've always played so it must be the best way'. I don't mean this personally, just an observation on the post that you made. Posted by jakally
You are more than prob 100% correct its just that i really really hate A Q its got me in more trouble over time when in this kind of position than any other hand i can think of , and as you say by bein over cautious with this type of hand may well be the difference between final tabling and actually winning , good post anyway jakally xx
In Response to Re: Is this a standard isolate - mini Primo Chip leader : I don't agree with you there as you can't even think about winning until you reach the FT. Think the main aim when playing MTT's is keeping up or doing better than average chip stack. If your double the average then hey ho wohooooo, but you still can't think about winning it. A couple of hands and you can easily be out so ...... but I kinda understand what your saying as some spots you should not pass and if you do you will never even come close to a FT Posted by rancid
Well the first thing I look at when registering is the top prize and how many BI's this equates to, if it's less than 20 I see no point in even playing, coming sort of 5th down to however low it pays is better than nothing but longterm top 3 is all that matters to stay alive playing them.
Obviously keeping close to average is good but I think it's more about keeping at minimum between 10-15 bb's and not getting below this for too long but always looking for that spot to take the game by the horns and get a daddy stack which this hand is an example of.
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Say the best players have an ROI of 100%+.
Snap shoved - didn't even think about folding, more of an after event looking back and analyising this big hand
End of the day if I win that hand - I am dominating the whole field sitting with 80 bigs and loving life - If I lose I have 48 bigs and still ok - it's such an easy shove
I didn't get the stack in the first place by folding so.....
Folding in this spot can get you into bad habits and you will be passing way too many winnable hands
Cheers, thanks and goodbye I feel ok about my shove now )
Think the main aim when playing MTT's is keeping up or doing better than average chip stack.
If your double the average then hey ho wohooooo, but you still can't think about winning it. A couple of hands and you can easily be out so ...... but I kinda understand what your saying as some spots you should not pass and if you do you will never even come close to a FT
Obviously keeping close to average is good but I think it's more about keeping at minimum between 10-15 bb's and not getting below this for too long but always looking for that spot to take the game by the horns and get a daddy stack which this hand is an example of.