Thanks hhyftrftdr. these marginal spots can really make or break a tournament, innit. Love your logic. My follow up question would be, given that we are a below average stack in a situation where we a far from the bubble, is it worth engineering or actively looking for these marginal / high variance spots in order to be better placed for a run at the top spots. In particular ive found that being a big stack around the bubble to be highly profitable. Also when we out chip our opponents we can flip the bounty hunter mentality in our favour: people are less inclined to go after people who they cant take a head prize off. In the situation above utg folded after the bb called with ATs. If I knew that would happen id make the play 100% of the time. Is that reckless? Cheers, TEDDY Posted by TeddyBloat
Teddy, I have seen this. However, it feels like someone has been sat on my head for 7 hours, after a few too many shandies last night. So shall try and give a detailed (yeah right!) reply later when I can actually engage my brain.
Thanks hhyftrftdr. these marginal spots can really make or break a tournament, innit. Love your logic. My follow up question would be, given that we are a below average stack in a situation where we a far from the bubble, is it worth engineering or actively looking for these marginal / high variance spots in order to be better placed for a run at the top spots. In particular ive found that being a big stack around the bubble to be highly profitable. Also when we out chip our opponents we can flip the bounty hunter mentality in our favour: people are less inclined to go after people who they cant take a head prize off. In the situation above utg folded after the bb called with ATs. If I knew that would happen id make the play 100% of the time. Is that reckless? Cheers, TEDDY Posted by TeddyBloat
Hey Teddy.
Yes, approaching the bubble as a big stack is always lovely. I think it can be worth taking the odd risk or 2 en route to try and amass as many chips as possible to take towards the bubble and beyond. Ultimately, we'll have to win a few flips at any given time in every tournament we play, they are almost impossible to avoid.
With regards to the 33 hand, yeah if we know we're flipping then I suppose it's not a bad spot to gamble. But thats what it is, a gamble. We'll come out with chips only about 50% of the time. It's a pretty standard spot if we are playing 10bb or so, but 20bb gives us a bit more leverage and possibly the chance to look for a better spot. The problem with 33 if we get looked up is that we are flipping at best. I think it's a poor call from A10 after that action, but I bet when he cold called your shove you thought 'uh-oh'.
Now don't get me wrong, I love a good gamble. But I think I would rather 3bet jam something like 9 10s (providing we have F/E) than a tiny pair. Yes, if we're called then we can never really be ahead, but we are also unlikely to be dominated; racing vs small to medium pairs, live cards vs picture cards. Even if we run into premium like AA/KK then I'd rather have high suited connectors than a small pair (not sure what the maths are on this mind).
The fold equity element of tournament poker is so important. I'm sure you've seen the various debates on it recently on the forum, but around the 20bb stack is a great time to get busy. We should be 3bet shipping loads of hands vs late position openers (table dynamic dependent of course). Whereas I might pass 33 to an utg raise, I wouldn't hesitate to 3bet all in with J10s on the button for 18bb to a cutoff raise, for example. Picking the spots to go to war for your stack will make or break your tournament ultimately, and winning pots uncontested whilst relatively short stacked keeps our heads above water.
Thanks a ton for that. I get impatient and 20bbs buys us at least two orbits before our fold equity starts getting depleted I suppose. appreciate what you say about picking our spots, battles and the importance of the qualities of our hand.
Looking back its a spew spot for sure. I shouldnt settle for a spot where I'm at best flipping, when I can learn to sniff out spots that are much better.
Nice cashes wheels and Larson. Few from me tonight.
£200 GTD waller0202£63.80 Mini Primo waller02023£14.11 £100 deepy waller0206£11.66 £2500 freeroll waller0216437.50£12.12 and bubble money from a £4k BH sat waller0206£9.60 Bedtime!!
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : How did u get off after k8? I hope they lecky held up! I had a game on stars yesterday don't play on it much I profited 15000 pound in our money in this 109 tourney it was a rebuy addon game I dident rebuy or addon cos I did not want to spend a great deal on the game. I had a pro on my table for a while under the name on pessano well sumthin like tht from Brazil he was he got knocked out on the bubble. Posted by daiw
Wowwwwwwwwwwww wp mate !!! takes some doing winning a tourney on there never mind the higher buy ins vwp !!!! noooooo lecky held but im aftraid I could only make 30th place for 280 grrrr, had a monster stack with 100 left then I get it all in against some1 with half my stack with my aces vs 9s needless to say he rivers a 2 outer !!! recoverd and got another decent stack in the next 2 levels then i get it all in with 9s against the same guy who had aj and he turns an ace boooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmmm all my dreams over !!! but seriosly mate vwp !!! yer u tend to come across alot of pros on there, I satted into the big 162, didint cash or anything but jake cody ended up winning it !!! some of the guys over there are absolutly superb like
Best of luck to ALL playing the DTD Tonight....but........
Even more importantly
Here is a reminder of who is in with a shout for the UKOPs Prizes up for grabs.
DTD - UKOPs Player Standings
Player
Week 1
Week 2
Week 3
TOTAL
FlyingDagg
93
12
105
ZOED
14
94
108
POMFRITTES
28
96
124
K8LOU
60
68
128
POKEY2011
62
113
175
LARSON7
68
119
187
chubbers
86
118
204
TeddyBloat
66
165
231
STOKEFC
146
85
231
KEITH1960
192
93
285
FLASHJONNY
190
114
304
Red_King
98
0
TREMAYNE
183
0
haylez83
194
0
jeffter
250
0
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You Must Play all three weeks...
7th Oct- DTD1, DTD2 & DTD3 (Best 2 Scores from 3) as per DTD Rules 14th Oct- DTD1, DTD2 & DTD3 (Best 2 Scores from 3) as per DTD Rules 21st Oct- DTD1, DTD2 & DTD3 (Best 2 Scores from 3) as per DTD Rules
Your best 2 scoring weeks from 3 will be added together and the 2 players with the lowest combined scores will win the prizes below.
1st Prize= £110.00 towards a UKOPs Main Event 2nd Prize = £55.00 towards a UKOPs Event
The winners will need to either email or PM me bank details to enable the prize funds to be transferred quickly to your account & in time for the start of UKOPs. (I can PM you my contact number, if you prefer not to send your details via email or PM) just let me know as quickly as possible.
Very Best of Luck ALL
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Rules. Prizes will be awarded to existing TPT (Team Poker Titan) Players Only. Incase of a draw...count down rules will apply as per DTD Rules Transferred Prize funds must be used to play a UKOPs Event in Oct/Nov 2013
Well done Zoe great result. Told you it would turn around. Looking forward to the battle of DTD tonight and our own UKOPS prizes. Good luck to everyone involved.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : I am also desperate to hear how this ended!!! Sounds so sick, it's my worst nightmare going deep in a huge mtt and the internet cutting out. Powercut is even worse! Could you not go to a neighbours or something? Hopefully the lack of updates means u won it allllll & r living it up somewhere very hot with ur winnings! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
No mate it was about 2am in the morning, I rang my dad and asked him to come to our house pick the lecky card up, lend me money as we didint get paid till around 2.30 and then go and get us lecky and by the time he made it back id busted so to say the least he wernt to happy !!!!
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Cash from me in a £150 speed BH
waller0209£7.34 + £5.15 Head Prizes2
WHEELS7161800001£16kathleenis02£9.60db707403£6.40small win all count
£200 GTD
waller0202£63.80
Mini Primo
waller02023£14.11
£100 deepy
waller0206£11.66
£2500 freeroll
waller0216437.50£12.12
and bubble money from a £4k BH sat
waller0206£9.60
Bedtime!!
Nice one zoed - made up for you, very well played. I was in beddy byes early so couldn't rail i'm afraid.
Well done though taking it down.
Even more importantly
Here is a reminder of who is in with a shout for the UKOPs Prizes up for grabs.
You Must Play all three weeks...
7th Oct- DTD1, DTD2 & DTD3 (Best 2 Scores from 3) as per DTD Rules
14th Oct- DTD1, DTD2 & DTD3 (Best 2 Scores from 3) as per DTD Rules
21st Oct- DTD1, DTD2 & DTD3 (Best 2 Scores from 3) as per DTD Rules
Your best 2 scoring weeks from 3 will be added together and the 2 players with the lowest combined scores will win the prizes below.
1st Prize= £110.00 towards a UKOPs Main Event
2nd Prize = £55.00 towards a UKOPs Event
The winners will need to either email or PM me bank details to enable the prize funds to be transferred quickly to your account & in time for the start of UKOPs. (I can PM you my contact number, if you prefer not to send your details via email or PM) just let me know as quickly as possible.
Very Best of Luck ALL
Regards
Pokertrev
Rules.
Prizes will be awarded to existing TPT (Team Poker Titan) Players Only.
Incase of a draw...count down rules will apply as per DTD Rules
Transferred Prize funds must be used to play a UKOPs Event in Oct/Nov 2013
BEST OF LUCK ALL
GRAND TOTAL £123387.57
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