Great advice gave me a lot to think about. One point I picked up from DOH about muti-tabling. If you are multi-tabling you would have less chance of playing bad cards. My reasons for this are 1-you have not reads on players. 2-you do not get bored. Does this make sense. Posted by chaper
I'd say so, it gives you more discipline and often if only playing one table you can get a bit spewy! but it can also have an adverse effect, playing more tables than you can handle could make you not play hands properly, you may mis-click (done it many a time), or time out, so i'd say do 2 tables, and slowly move up, don't just jump straight to 6 tables for example
In Response to Re: Cash help needed pleasssse : I'd say so, it gives you more discipline and often if only playing one table you can get a bit spewy! but it can also have an adverse effect, playing more tables than you can handle could make you not play hands properly, you may mis-click (done it many a time), or time out, so i'd say do 2 tables, and slowly move up, don't just jump straight to 6 tables for example Posted by percival09
start winning first at the level your playing then mutli table if your loosing then your only going to loose more get your game sorted first 2/4p - raise pre big 4x-6x bb's 100% bet, bet , bet your hands - don't bluff - the bad players are not good enough to fold Posted by rancid
good luck chaper,u,ll need it....i,ve been playing 2p/4p for just over a year and i,m still trying to work it out.i started playing 1 table then 2 then 4 then 6 which i found quite comfortable after a little while,got up to 8 then 10 even 11.i was breaking even through playing and receiving £100 cash for points each month.the only downside to this was i was doing nothing else but playing poker...playing 4 6 8 hour sessions at a time.min 125 hours a month.for what?.....£1 per hour.i guess what i,m trying to say is that it,s very easy to go :chasing the money: if you,re not carefull.i,m now back playing just the 1 table again just about breaking even and still loving it just as much now as all those 100,s of hours ago when i first started......hope you have as much fun playing and trying to solve the problem,as i have.i,m sure that we will meet up sometime in the not too distant future.....good luck
good luck chaper,u,ll need it....i,ve been playing 2p/4p for just over a year and i,m still trying to work it out.i started playing 1 table then 2 then 4 then 6 which i found quite comfortable after a little while,got up to 8 then 10 even 11.i was breaking even through playing and receiving £100 cash for points each month.the only downside to this was i was doing nothing else but playing poker...playing 4 6 8 hour sessions at a time.min 125 hours a month.for what?.....£1 per hour.i guess what i,m trying to say is that it,s very easy to go :chasing the money: if you,re not carefull.i,m now back playing just the 1 table again just about breaking even and still loving it just as much now as all those 100,s of hours ago when i first started......hope you have as much fun playing and trying to solve the problem,as i have.i,m sure that we will meet up sometime in the not too distant future.....good luck Posted by devonfish5
1. How does multitabling affect the number of hours you play? You can play 10-11 tables if you want and still play just as many hours as you do at 1 table.
2. If you're only breaking even aafter 1 year of 2p/4p, I wouldn't be playing 10-11 tables, learn how to beat it first! 2p/4p is pretty easy to beat, even if you're not making huge profits, it's very easy to win 1-2 buy-ins (£4-£8) from say a 2-3 hour session on 1 table.
3. Multitabling isn't going to make you win more or less (per table), it's just going to multiply your win rate so if you're breaking even, you'll be breaking even if you play a million tables so why bother. WHY MULTITABLE IF YOU'RE NOT WINNING??
In Response to Re: Cash help needed pleasssse : 1. How does multitabling affect the number of hours you play? You can play 10-11 tables if you want and still play just as many hours as you do at 1 table. 2. If you're only breaking even aafter 1 year of 2p/4p, I wouldn't be playing 10-11 tables, learn how to beat it first! 2p/4p is pretty easy to beat, even if you're not making huge profits, it's very easy to win 1-2 buy-ins (£4-£8) from say a 2-3 hour session on 1 table. 3. Multitabling isn't going to make you win more or less (per table), it's just going to multiply your win rate so if you're breaking even, you'll be breaking even if you play a million tables so why bother. WHY MULTITABLE IF YOU'RE NOT WINNING?? Posted by Lambert180
Multitabling generally makes you less per table, but more overall. The reason you would do it if breaking even is for bonuses
In Response to Re: Cash help needed pleasssse : Multitabling generally makes you less per table, but more overall. The reason you would do it if breaking even is for bonuses Posted by grantorino
I can understand that partly if you're a winning player. If you are breaking even at 1 table, then go to 2 and break even, tthen 4 and break even and so on, surely you should stop increasing the number of tables and improve your game.
Yeah you're going to get cash for points but as he observed, he's getting £100 for 125+ hours. The bonuses should be exactly that, bonuses. I don't think you can use that as an income/way of increasing BR.
Don't you think you need to be questioning your game if after 1 year of 2p/4p you are only breaking even?
In Response to Re: Cash help needed pleasssse : I can understand that partly if you're a winning player. If you are breaking even at 1 table, then go to 2 and break even, tthen 4 and break even and so on, surely you should stop increasing the number of tables and improve your game. Yeah you're going to get cash for points but as he observed, he's getting £100 for 125+ hours. The bonuses should be exactly that, bonuses. I don't think you can use that as an income/way of increasing BR. Don't you think you need to be questioning your game if after 1 year of 2p/4p you are only breaking even? Posted by Lambert180
I agree with most of what you said, was just making an observation. There are certainly players who are basically breakeven and make good money off rakeback etc though by playing big volume. Playing less tables would improve his poker, mightnt make him more money short term, it should long term
hi lambert180,just read your post.re me breaking even-that,s from my play,adding in cash 4 points bonuses i,m £350 up,hence my reason playing 10 tables.you,ve also said it,s very easy to win £4-£8 playing 1 table,well it might be 4 u,but obviously not 4 me.as i think 90% of all players lose or like myself break even,i think they might also agree it,s not that simple.i have taken on board about....don,t you think youneed to be questioning your game if after 1 year of 2p/4p you are only breaking even?....yes,you are right,obviously i do.in fact i have made some changes during my last 2 sessions,playing 2 tables raising up 4x and 5x pre-flop instead of 2x and 3x has made a big diference,...i,ve won £4.00 and £2.57 respectively.so i am listening and trying.i thank you and grantorino for your advice.oh and you rancid re advice on pre-flop raising.don,t worry-i,ll keep on working at it,i very rairly give up at anything so i don,t think i,ll be going too far away when there,s real money to be won....do you?
given people call with anything, how can you put people on ranges and so how can you ever be confident you have the best hand without having the nuts or near nuts - which isn't that often
in a weird way, top players play a very wide range of cards to make it impossible to put them on a hand - this is replicated at 4nl?
it seems like you would never ever bluff at 4nl?, but then it just comes to catching cards?
i've never played 4nl and im kinda curious given people call with anything, how can you put people on ranges and so how can you ever be confident you have the best hand without having the nuts or near nuts - which isn't that often in a weird way, top players play a very wide range of cards to make it impossible to put them on a hand - this is replicated at 4nl? it seems like you would never ever bluff at 4nl?, but then it just comes to catching cards? Posted by Codex
No you can bluff, usually a half pot cbet is ok when in the right situation, IP against one opponant etc. Only thing that is spew is when you start 2x/3x barreling someone who ain't gonna fold turns/rivers if they have a pair on flop.
The way you win money is when you hit good hand simply bet BIG as they'll pay you off with anything most times.
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THANKS AGAIN
get your game sorted first
2/4p - raise pre big 4x-6x bb's
100% bet, bet , bet your hands -
don't bluff - the bad players are not good enough to fold
2. If you're only breaking even aafter 1 year of 2p/4p, I wouldn't be playing 10-11 tables, learn how to beat it first! 2p/4p is pretty easy to beat, even if you're not making huge profits, it's very easy to win 1-2 buy-ins (£4-£8) from say a 2-3 hour session on 1 table.
3. Multitabling isn't going to make you win more or less (per table), it's just going to multiply your win rate so if you're breaking even, you'll be breaking even if you play a million tables so why bother. WHY MULTITABLE IF YOU'RE NOT WINNING??
Yeah you're going to get cash for points but as he observed, he's getting £100 for 125+ hours. The bonuses should be exactly that, bonuses. I don't think you can use that as an income/way of increasing BR.
Don't you think you need to be questioning your game if after 1 year of 2p/4p you are only breaking even?
Maybe a mod or DOHHHHHHH could find it easier.
given people call with anything, how can you put people on ranges and so how can you ever be confident you have the best hand without having the nuts or near nuts - which isn't that often
in a weird way, top players play a very wide range of cards to make it impossible to put them on a hand - this is replicated at 4nl?
it seems like you would never ever bluff at 4nl?, but then it just comes to catching cards?
The way you win money is when you hit good hand simply bet BIG as they'll pay you off with anything most times.