In Response to Re: Balancing your play. : Well I'd rather make him pay then see it free, explain please ? Posted by Dudeskin8
I assume what he means is, you're not raising because you don't want him to see the flop, you're raising because you want to be building a big pot which will usually be yours?
To DrSharp - You said if you raise with 2 broadway cards and limp with small pairs and odd connectors then its obvious what you're playing. Firstly I don't think you should EVER be limping with ANY hand at 4NL and secondly, you don't need to be playing low suited connectors because at this level you have top pair,top kicker is enough to get someone to stack off if they have anything. Dudeskin put a post on here recently in reply to someone (the_Don I think) asking for cash help and there really is a strict plan to follow.
You're playing with about 22% of hands which is any PP, AK, AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, JT suited, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ off suit. Every single time you get one of these hands, raise 20p, plus 4p if you raise UTG and plus 4p for every limper.
I'd suggest raising to around 28-32p with AA/KK/QQ because you're going to get called quite often and you just wanna get it all in against these players.
C-bet occasionally when it's a dry flop. If you get called raise, just get rid and find a better spot.
When you flop top pair, two pair, a set etc, always bet somewhere between 75% and 100% of the pot. NEVER SLOWPLAY hands at this level.
This was a rough idea of what dudeskin said, anyone feel free to add anything I missed out, I did this quite quick. But yeah follow this system, don't deviate from it because the donkey players won't notice you've deviated from it anyway.
Firstly I don't think you should EVER be limping with ANY hand at 4NL
There are situations where you can happily limp in without feeling like you playing badly If you rule out limping from your game then I feel your missing a trick Always raise your big value hands though but you can limp 22 UTG on a loose table
Yh I agree with 22/33/44 UTG it could be right to limp but I personlly have a new rule now of NEVER open limping ANY hand, so at 4NL I'd make it 20p UTG maybe 24p hope to get against one villain where on the right board a cbet can work and if you get multiple callers if you hit your set you can win a MASSIVE pot.
However if it's limped before me I might limp along but still most the time it needs to be 2 limpers before me as then there's a chance of getting a family pot.
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To DrSharp - You said if you raise with 2 broadway cards and limp with small pairs and odd connectors then its obvious what you're playing. Firstly I don't think you should EVER be limping with ANY hand at 4NL and secondly, you don't need to be playing low suited connectors because at this level you have top pair,top kicker is enough to get someone to stack off if they have anything. Dudeskin put a post on here recently in reply to someone (the_Don I think) asking for cash help and there really is a strict plan to follow.
You're playing with about 22% of hands which is any PP, AK, AQ, AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, JT suited, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ off suit. Every single time you get one of these hands, raise 20p, plus 4p if you raise UTG and plus 4p for every limper.
I'd suggest raising to around 28-32p with AA/KK/QQ because you're going to get called quite often and you just wanna get it all in against these players.
C-bet occasionally when it's a dry flop. If you get called raise, just get rid and find a better spot.
When you flop top pair, two pair, a set etc, always bet somewhere between 75% and 100% of the pot. NEVER SLOWPLAY hands at this level.
This was a rough idea of what dudeskin said, anyone feel free to add anything I missed out, I did this quite quick. But yeah follow this system, don't deviate from it because the donkey players won't notice you've deviated from it anyway.
If you rule out limping from your game then I feel your missing a trick
Always raise your big value hands though but you can limp 22 UTG on a loose table
However if it's limped before me I might limp along but still most the time it needs to be 2 limpers before me as then there's a chance of getting a family pot.
unless you really know what doing, you are likely to be far better off just never limping