In Response to Re: LOL - Can someone please explain?? : HEAR HEAR.....The self-proclaimed so called better players on the site are always quick to sl ag off plays and players when they're not aware of all the facts,and if the object of the thread IS to embarass the player then as far as i'm concerned it didn't work because if it was me i would be laughing my head off. Posted by igimc
Hello Igimc, Knowing Phil, it would not be his intention to embarass any player, but i take Vince's point about deleting the opponents name. If someone posts a hand and asks peoples opinions then we are doing so, by nature, without the full information of table dynamics etc(even Vince described the play preflop as creative), then we can only offer our opinions. I have yet to see any of the so called villians post their thoughts on those hands. It would be nice to see their take on the hand, but i doubt many people would do it. Before you come back at me, I dont class myself as one of the better players on the site, but i do have a (main) style that can offer a possible different view of hands(without trying to sl ag off anyone). In my humble opinion, it would have been nice for you to have put your thoughts on the play and not just rant about how people are trying to have a go and embarass others. These comments are the type to inflame situations and having read some of your other posts, you do make some very good points. I have said this to other players on this forum as i have seen these get out of control.
col ps if you look at what we have in front of us, most players would agree that to call the reraise with that hand is, in the long run not a PROFITABLE play.
Thanks guys for feeback. I posted it in a kinda shocked state, not on the loss because as Scotty said, its not for a huge amount. Mere - it's only the 2nd hand Ive ever posted and it's not mean to embarass the guy - I never even thought about changing his alias. I agree that post flop its gonna get through if I have AK/AQ but I was just flabberghasted with the reraise pre and then the call of the re-reraise pre. The runner runner flush was simply the icing on the cake! At the end of the day, we want these calls all day long when holding Aces so it's not a gripe as such. Just a sick, sick outcome Now to try and win it back today!!! Posted by phil12uk
As a matter of decency & etiquette when Posting these "OMG" hands & situations, the done thing is to remove the name of the villain.
I know Phil meant no malice - he's not that sort of guy - but if the Villain reads this Thread, the Players, & the Site, will both be losers, because the Villain will go play poker elsewhere.
And none of us want that, now do we?
Bellyache all you like about his play, but don't drive him away - please. He's our profit.
Hi Guys, As a matter of decency & etiquette when Posting these "OMG" hands & situations, the done thing is to remove the name of the villain. I know Phil meant no malice - he's not that sort of guy - but if the Villain reads this Thread, the Players, & the Site, will both be losers, because the Villain will go play poker elsewhere. And none of us want that, now do we? Bellyache all you like about his play, but don't drive him away - please. He's our profit. Posted by Tikay10
Originally tikay, I did post a slightly deflammatory post here but removed it within 10 minutes as I felt it crossed certain boundaries.
My remaining posts only contain questions which I still feel are relevant and fair to this discussion. I never have a wish to offend anyone here but I still feel that the all in post flop was not the worse play in the world as obviously missing the flop in the way he did, then the only way to win the pot is to represent extreme strength, which is what the player did.
My only real gripe is that the player commited all his stack on a hand that should not even be considered playable in any position let alone the SB, which considered by many to be the worse place to be in post flop.
But maybe that should not be a gripe, but more of an opportunity.........
In Response to Re: LOL - Can someone please explain?? : Originally tikay, I did post a slightly deflammatory post here but removed it within 10 minutes as I felt it crossed certain boundaries. My remaining posts only contain questions which I still feel are relevant and fair to this discussion. I never have a wish to offend anyone here but I still feel that the all in post flop was not the worse play in the world as obviously missing the flop in the way he did, then the only way to win the pot is to represent extreme strength, which is what the player did. My only real gripe is that the player commited all his stack on a hand that should not even be considered playable in any position let alone the SB, which considered by many to be the worse place to be in post flop. But maybe that should not be a gripe, but more of an opportunity......... Posted by Hale72
Thanks Hale - my Post was not aimed at anyone specifically, certainly not you.
The play was certainly "creative", but give me a table full of creative players, & they may send me dizzy, but I'll take them on every day.
It always amuses me to watch the early stages of Deepie - all the dancers bluffing & showing, which is the daftest thing in daft-ville at that stage of a deepie. They rarely last unil the first break, & I take smug satisfaction from that, to be honest! Oddly, it does not happen - not at all - in the 7.30 22 quid Deepie, where we often reach the first break without a single exit. The standard of play in that is scarily good, & a credit to the Sky Poker players.
In Response to Re: LOL - Can someone please explain?? : Thanks Hale - my Post was not aimed at anyone specifically, certainly not you. The play was certainly "creative", but give me a table full of creative players, & they may send me dizzy, but I'll take them on every day. It always amuses me to watch the early stages of Deepie - all the dancers bluffing & showing, which is the daftest thing in daft-ville at that stage of a deepie. They rarely last unil the first break, & I take smug satisfaction from that, to be honest! Oddly, it does not happen - not at all - in the 7.30 22 quid Deepie, where we often reach the first break without a single exit. The standard of play in that is scarily good, & a credit to the Sky Poker players. Oh, & have a good weekend. Posted by Tikay10
to be fair,the 7:30 deepie has less than 20 runners, and no nutters in it like me lol however i bet you lose at least 1 and my guess is 3 players before the 1st break
In Response to Re: LOL - Can someone please explain?? : to be fair,the 7:30 deepie has less than 20 runners, and no nutters in it like me lol however i bet you lose at least 1 and my guess is 3 players before the 1st break Posted by loonytoons
In Response to Re: LOL - Can someone please explain?? : Thanks Hale - my Post was not aimed at anyone specifically, certainly not you. The play was certainly "creative", but give me a table full of creative players, & they may send me dizzy, but I'll take them on every day. It always amuses me to watch the early stages of Deepie - all the dancers bluffing & showing, which is the daftest thing in daft-ville at that stage of a deepie. They rarely last unil the first break, & I take smug satisfaction from that, to be honest! Oddly, it does not happen - not at all - in the 7.30 22 quid Deepie, where we often reach the first break without a single exit. The standard of play in that is scarily good, & a credit to the Sky Poker players. Oh, & have a good weekend. Posted by Tikay10
Thanks big K, I genuinly would love to take part in a deepie, but as I have posted on another thread, I have serious time constraints in the evening. Oh, how I long for the days when a deepie is available between 9-5.
well its breaktime and its 11 /16 so 5 gone thats over 1/4 the total. Posted by loonytoons
It was like they all wanted to watch Strictly Come Dancing or something - it was incredibly loose early doors last night!
But it still never finished until well after 11pm, the Final Table Bubble lasted 45 minutes, & the Heads-Up 20 minutes. So it took over 4 hours to lose 15 players!
Many congrats to the winner, Mabsue, who after playing a little lairy early doors, buckled down & grinded his way to the Final, after being Billy Low Stack with 7 left, & eventually went on to win.
In Response to Re: LOL - Can someone please explain?? : It was like they all wanted to watch Strictly Come Dancing or something - it was incredibly loose early doors last night! But it still never finished until well after 11pm, the Final Table Bubble lasted 45 minutes, & the Heads-Up 20 minutes. So it took over 4 hours to lose 15 players! Many congrats to the winner, Mabsue, who after playing a little lairy early doors, buckled down & grinded his way to the Final, after being Billy Low Stack with 7 left, & eventually went on to win. A fine performance. Posted by Tikay10
+1 , did you cash tikay - i didnt see the end, however ive been reading that you've been owning this tourny for a couple of weeks now
... and Mr. Kendall came 2nd after being the low-stack for much of the game - gg sir. Mind you he had to suck out with KJ against QT getting his chips in first all-in pre-flop - very dirty. ;-)
".....he had to suck out with KJ against QT getting his chips in first all-in pre-flop....."
The guy with Q-T (who had CALLED All-In) said I "outdrew him"!
Huge fun, the whole Tourney, & very satisfying to Cash. I'm enjoying the positive side of variance this week. Next week, it will all change, but I'm loving it while it lasts.
I did get lucky though, genuinely lucky. I found A-A, and the Chip Daddy Raised into me. I Re-Raised, & he snap-called. The Flop came Q-9-7. He checked, I jammed, & he snap-called me. With 3-3. Jaw-dropping stuff!
Later, I bet out with top pair (9), A Kicker, & 4 to the Nut Flush, & got re-Raised, I insta-jammed, Villain insta-Called, with top pair, 10 kicker, no extensions!
So, two lucky coups there.
Finally, LEON & I got it all-in Pre - & we both had A-A!
LEON's game, by the way, has improved enormously, he's cut down his bluffing, & his Results show it. It was his 60th Birthday yesterday - well done Old Man.
... and Mr. Kendall came 2nd after being the low-stack for much of the game - gg sir. Mind you he had to suck out with KJ against QT getting his chips in first all-in pre-flop - very dirty. ;-) Posted by MereNovice
Lol @ MereNovice! To explain...... ".....he had to suck out with KJ against QT getting his chips in first all-in pre-flop....." The guy with Q-T (who had CALLED All-In) said I "outdrew him"! Huge fun, the whole Tourney, & very satisfying to Cash. I'm enjoying the positive side of variance this week. Next week, it will all change, but I'm loving it while it lasts. I did get lucky though, genuinely lucky. I found A-A, and the Chip Daddy Raised into me. I Re-Raised, & he snap-called. The Flop came Q-9-7. He checked, I jammed, & he snap-called me. With 3-3. Jaw-dropping stuff! Later, I bet out with top pair (9), A Kicker, & 4 to the Nut Flush, & got re-Raised, I insta-jammed, Villain insta-Called, with top pair, 10 kicker, no extensions! So, two lucky coups there. Finally, LEON & I got it all-in Pre - & we both had A-A! LEON's game, by the way, has improved enormously, he's cut down his bluffing, & his Results show it. It was his 60th Birthday yesterday - well done Old Man. Posted by Tikay10
LOL - pot, kettle black springs to mind!!
Can u remember when u were 60 Tikay? Had cars been invented then
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Knowing Phil, it would not be his intention to embarass any player, but i take Vince's point about deleting the opponents name.
If someone posts a hand and asks peoples opinions then we are doing so, by nature, without the full information of table dynamics etc(even Vince described the play preflop as creative), then we can only offer our opinions.
I have yet to see any of the so called villians post their thoughts on those hands. It would be nice to see their take on the hand, but i doubt many people would do it.
Before you come back at me, I dont class myself as one of the better players on the site, but i do have a (main) style that can offer a possible different view of hands(without trying to sl ag off anyone).
In my humble opinion, it would have been nice for you to have put your thoughts on the play and not just rant about how people are trying to have a go and embarass others. These comments are the type to inflame situations and having read some of your other posts, you do make some very good points.
I have said this to other players on this forum as i have seen these get out of control.
col
ps if you look at what we have in front of us, most players would agree that to call the reraise with that hand is, in the long run not a PROFITABLE play.
Hi Guys,
As a matter of decency & etiquette when Posting these "OMG" hands & situations, the done thing is to remove the name of the villain.
I know Phil meant no malice - he's not that sort of guy - but if the Villain reads this Thread, the Players, & the Site, will both be losers, because the Villain will go play poker elsewhere.
And none of us want that, now do we?
Bellyache all you like about his play, but don't drive him away - please. He's our profit.
What if it's Orford?
We'll assume it's Orford anyway.
My remaining posts only contain questions which I still feel are relevant and fair to this discussion. I never have a wish to offend anyone here but I still feel that the all in post flop was not the worse play in the world as obviously missing the flop in the way he did, then the only way to win the pot is to represent extreme strength, which is what the player did.
My only real gripe is that the player commited all his stack on a hand that should not even be considered playable in any position let alone the SB, which considered by many to be the worse place to be in post flop.
But maybe that should not be a gripe, but more of an opportunity.........
The play was certainly "creative", but give me a table full of creative players, & they may send me dizzy, but I'll take them on every day.
It always amuses me to watch the early stages of Deepie - all the dancers bluffing & showing, which is the daftest thing in daft-ville at that stage of a deepie. They rarely last unil the first break, & I take smug satisfaction from that, to be honest! Oddly, it does not happen - not at all - in the 7.30 22 quid Deepie, where we often reach the first break without a single exit. The standard of play in that is scarily good, & a credit to the Sky Poker players.
Oh, & have a good weekend.
But it still never finished until well after 11pm, the Final Table Bubble lasted 45 minutes, & the Heads-Up 20 minutes. So it took over 4 hours to lose 15 players!
Many congrats to the winner, Mabsue, who after playing a little lairy early doors, buckled down & grinded his way to the Final, after being Billy Low Stack with 7 left, & eventually went on to win.
A fine performance.
Mind you he had to suck out with KJ against QT getting his chips in first all-in pre-flop - very dirty. ;-)
Lol @ MereNovice!
To explain......
".....he had to suck out with KJ against QT getting his chips in first all-in pre-flop....."
The guy with Q-T (who had CALLED All-In) said I "outdrew him"!
Huge fun, the whole Tourney, & very satisfying to Cash. I'm enjoying the positive side of variance this week. Next week, it will all change, but I'm loving it while it lasts.
I did get lucky though, genuinely lucky. I found A-A, and the Chip Daddy Raised into me. I Re-Raised, & he snap-called. The Flop came Q-9-7. He checked, I jammed, & he snap-called me. With 3-3. Jaw-dropping stuff!
Later, I bet out with top pair (9), A Kicker, & 4 to the Nut Flush, & got re-Raised, I insta-jammed, Villain insta-Called, with top pair, 10 kicker, no extensions!
So, two lucky coups there.
Finally, LEON & I got it all-in Pre - & we both had A-A!
LEON's game, by the way, has improved enormously, he's cut down his bluffing, & his Results show it. It was his 60th Birthday yesterday - well done Old Man.
Can u remember when u were 60 Tikay? Had cars been invented then