Right to call pre and on the flop?

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop?:

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop? : Appreciate the advice offshoot, but I,m not getting stacked just with a K or Q. I could still get away from it without getting stacked if thats all i,ve hit some interesting points above  for playing it different ways
Posted by MP33

But you would most likely not fold to ONE bet on flop and then if turn is a blank you gonna fold TPGK, I doubt it tbh, and then it seems the only reason you're calling pre is to hit a big draw but then you're still behind and have to hit i.e. get lucky. All round it ain't great imo.

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop?:

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop? : But you would most likely not fold to ONE bet on flop and then if turn is a blank you gonna fold TPGK, I doubt it tbh, and then it seems the only reason you're calling pre is to hit a big draw but then you're still behind and have to hit i.e. get lucky. All round it ain't great imo.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Prob not great tbh , but i see this play at higher levels than 10/20p and i dont mean just by rec players either

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop?:

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop? : Prob not great tbh , but i see this play at higher levels than 10/20p and i dont mean just by rec players either
Posted by debdobs_67

If you have VERY solid reads on players that they 3bet light and even open light then possibly you can do this, but as MP33 said he was 'taking a shot' at NL20 and hence I can't imagine he has brilliant reads and hence should just play ABC before he builds them up.

rancid

spew call pre, very speculative as long as your not stacking if a K or Q hits flop or even if you hit 1 pr your folding right - easily dominated

You gotta know your looking to flop 2 pr min, even if you flop 2 pr you could easily be behind to a set

as played - shove flop - flatting here does nothing, only leads to a blank turn and you fold, stick it to em.

Long term calling here your losing money, once in a blue moon your going to flop big even then the effective stack need to be at least 200BB

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop?:

In Response to Re: Right to call pre and on the flop? : If you have VERY solid reads on players that they 3bet light and even open light then possibly you can do this, but as MP33 said he was 'taking a shot' at NL20 and hence I can't imagine he has brilliant reads and hence should just play ABC before he builds them up.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Yeah i think that is spot on