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any 1 folding this?

mrlogicmrlogic Member Posts: 34
edited September 2011 in The Poker Clinic
500 bh 11 pound in ,,8 players left i think

Hand History #414324933 (00:55 15/09/2011)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
tallytink Small blind  300.00 300.00 15955.00
NIKKIBBAK Big blind  600.00 900.00 27945.14
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 6
     
mrlogic Raise  1800.00 2700.00 29974.80
SECONDWAVE Fold     
tallytink Fold     
NIKKIBBAK Call  1200.00 3900.00 26745.14
Flop
   
  • 5
  • A
  • A
     
NIKKIBBAK Check     
mrlogic Bet  1800.00 5700.00 28174.80
NIKKIBBAK Raise  4800.00 10500.00 21945.14
mrlogic Raise  10800.00 21300.00 17374.80
NIKKIBBAK All-in  21945.14 43245.14 0.00
mrlogic Fold     
NIKKIBBAK Muck     
NIKKIBBAK Win  29100.00  29100.00
NIKKIBBAK Return  14145.14
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2011
    how can u raise pre and fold this flop.
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited September 2011
    what are you doing.


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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: any 1 folding this?:
    what are you doing.
    Posted by scotty77
    he prob learnt it from me
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    Raise smaller pre.

    As played get it in.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    Surely you got timed out or summin similar ??
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited September 2011
    I dont see how you fold flop.  I'm a nit and risk averse but even I dont fold here after 3 betting this portion of my stack vs isolated BB.

    Raise smaller pre or just fold IMO
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  • JBussJBuss Member Posts: 245
    edited September 2011
    This play is crazy, if you raise pre-flop you have to put the chips in the middle on that flop.

    But I dont think I would of been in the hand in the first place, I fold Pre-flop.

    Jonathan
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2011
    WTF, firstly no need to open 3xBB.

    Secondly how can you fold postflop you played this so bad

    FWIW i probably fold alot pre here unless you are on the tightest table ever its never going to be profitable to raise UTG with A6suited
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: any 1 folding this?:
    WTF, firstly no need to open 3xBB. Secondly how can you fold postflop you played this so bad FWIW i probably fold alot pre here unless you are on the tightest table ever its never going to be profitable to raise UTG with A6suited
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Especially if you plan to fold on A-A-x boards.
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  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited September 2011
    I think raising pre is fine, looks 4 handed to me. I'd prob still raise 5-6 handed too.

    the rest is...well...interesting.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: any 1 folding this?:
    I think raising pre is fine, looks 4 handed to me. I'd prob still raise 5-6 handed too. the rest is...well...interesting.
    Posted by pryce6
    Yeah tbh i dont see any prob with the raise pre , as ya say 4 handed , suited A , seems fine to me , anyone else agree ??
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2011
    Raise pre is fine, but too big. Prob be too tight to fold most times, but that BB is gonna donate their chips sooner or later, and you're deep enough to fold and find a better spot if that's what u wanna do. I'd still open tho, obv.

    BB tendancies make it a better idea to keep the pot small early on so m/r is kool.

    When you get c/r on that flop I think doing anything other than flatting is probably really bad?

    Although I know the villain is a nutcase, that's prob even more reason to flat. They're gonna lead the turn 99% of the time, then u can just get it in.

    The 1% of the time that they check the turn over to you, bet rly rly small and hover your cursor over the "call button" and see if you can break the world record for hand/eye co-ordination and snap within 0.0001 of a second.

    As played, call.


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  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2011
    Raise smaller pre, 1400 is enough.

    Get it in flop, after you 4b him how can you fold with this hand and how much is in the middle.

    Awful...
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  • mrlogicmrlogic Member Posts: 34
    edited September 2011
    wel i obv folded it ,and went on to win the torny,,,tho if i did call i cud easlily have gone out .u have to make big folds sometimes to win tornys maybe thats where 90 percent of ppl go out i dno,,was sick to fold it but it paid off ,,,why did he re my 1st flop bet?then when i re him basicaly saying im comitted he goes all in and says lets see what u got ,he obv didnt think he cud bluff me once id put the 10k in?so surely im beat??/anyway as i say i won. anyways...yey.
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  • bolly580bolly580 Member Posts: 603
    edited September 2011

    fold pre, or stick with the hand.....

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: any 1 folding this?:
    wel i obv folded it ,and went on to win the torny,,,tho if i did call i cud easlily have gone out .u have to make big folds sometimes to win tornys maybe thats where 90 percent of ppl go out i dno,,was sick to fold it but it paid off ,,,why did he re my 1st flop bet?then when i re him basicaly saying im comitted he goes all in and says lets see what u got ,he obv didnt think he cud bluff me once id put the 10k in?so surely im beat??/anyway as i say i won. anyways...yey.
    Posted by mrlogic
    a little bit results orientated i suspect.
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited September 2011

    That is final table i remember as i finished just before, the raise pre can be smaller but is def a raise 4 handed.
    The flop is very interesting but i can see why you would expect to be behind here and at best (for you)he has 2 spades.
    Your flop play is remarkable never ever come back over the top considering stack that amount and fold.
    Winning the tournament is irrelevant as you can play bad and win and making the callcould of won it quicker lol
    i flat back flop and get it in on a non spade turn

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2011
    thats ridic jus cos you went on to win doesnt mean it was a good fold derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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  • mrlogicmrlogic Member Posts: 34
    edited September 2011
    wel if i call im out so im guessin it does make it a good fold
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: any 1 folding this?:
    wel if i call im out so im guessin it does make it a good fold
    Posted by mrlogic
    That is difficult to dispute Young Wum ?
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