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How should i have played this hand?
sillymunch
Member Posts: 299
Just a bit of fore knowledge the villain in question can only be described as a maniac player, was wondering how you would of responded to this?
Hand History #415440398 (00:38 18/09/2011)
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 33allin | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £1.84 | |
| tinytren24 | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £12.46 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| sparky68 | Raise | £0.08 | £0.14 | £3.91 | |
| The_Don90 | Fold | ||||
| foolhows | Fold | ||||
| sillymunch | Raise | £0.24 | £0.38 | £3.70 | |
| 33allin | Fold | ||||
| tinytren24 | Fold | ||||
| sparky68 | Raise | £0.32 | £0.70 | £3.59 | |
| sillymunch | Call | £0.16 | £0.86 | £3.54 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| sparky68 | Check | ||||
| sillymunch | Bet | £0.86 | £1.72 | £2.68 | |
| sparky68 | Raise | £1.72 | |||
Comments
fold to 3bet
ok ill let you see how the whole hand played out ;o now i would like a comment on it
never ever fold
Don't get involved with mainiacs unless your have a prem hand, or flop fantastic etc..
End up levelling yourself too much thinking they never have it when you go all in they show you the nutz
Gambling with the manaics means your basically flipping with them ie. if you do this you can not use whatever edge you do have
QJ is just not big enough to go to war with even if you have flopped TP
Eaiser spots at the level to make money trust me, you don't need to be 3 betting QJ
Do you really think you should be flatting a 4 bet with QJ ?
Seriously what flop are you happy with, broadway and 2 pr
You were behind pre so... fold
Unless you feel like getting luck, which a lot of oppo's seem to do v me )
Calling 4 bets with silly hands is kinda the norm at NL4, seriously tilting )
open fold pre at this level, if your playing the player yeah once hit get it in. But the min raise and then 4 bet is too strong for QJ regardless
Re: how should i of played this hand?
First: 2/8/2009
Last: 18/9/2011
I know you should bet big when you hit at 4NL but I think pot betting here might be a bit much. If he is a maniac then I assume you can't rule out him having Q10, Q7, 107 (not saying he has to have this) but if he is a maniac, when you bet the pot, and he does a tiny re-raise, surely you don't know if he has one of the above hands, or Qx or 10x or 7x or QQ/TT/77 or KQ or AQ because he's a maniac and could do this with any of them. So you're continuing on, risking your entire stack (if you carry on) when you don't really have a clue where you are.
That's why 3betting these average hands gets you into trouble.
Pre - Sparky bets, Silly re-raises (2bets if you will), and Sparky 3bets (no 4bet there). Even if you class Sparky's inital bet as a raise (because it's more than a blind), then Silly's is a 3bet (Arguably) and then Sparky's would be a 4bet but it's not a cold 4-bet. A cold 4-bet is when you 4bet someone when it's your first action into the pot, correct?
Post flop - Silly bets, Sparky re-raises, Silly 3bet-shoves and Sparky calls.
Where are these 4bets? Please correct me if I'm wrong...
P.S. Sorry if I'm just being a picky barsteward
Either way, just fold pre but yeah