ah who was it lemme know also if the persoon who did this is reading this ur a clown hope that doesn't offend any clowns who may be reading Posted by scotty77
Yes i'm offended, do you think it's easy getting custard pies thrown in your face all day ??????!!!!!!!?!?!?!?! .......and don't get me started on wearing these stupid shoes and trying to drive a car when the doors keep falling off and the engine explodes. : ) Good decision Area51.
People do it on the forum, on the tables all the time, as well as on twitter and other social media about sky players, and it's personal. It was pointed out that others doing it doesn't make it ok for him to do it. But it doesn't make him any worse than the others who do it post after post and get away with it either.Big O.R, and v unfair that he was singled out like this. imo. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I've never seen derogatory remarks made towards downs syndrome sufferers and the mentally disabled on here before.
I took a decision to exclude the team member for the offensive remarks and it will stand.
Listen lets get something straight OK I chose some bad wording, which rightly offended some / a player on here, HOWEVER I did not post a thread insulting anybody with a mental illness or downs. I did use the word downs to describe ppls decision making ability, that I accept, but I did NOT mean it in any way to mean I dislike or discriminate against anybody.
Other people on here use the term 'tard all the time which has the same derogitory meaning as anything I came out with.
I have apologised but wont continue to do so like Ive commited crime of the century nor will I put up with people stretching what has been said.
Or make a fat joke or a sexist joke or or or etc etc etc..................... I have apologised if I offended anybody, in fact I apologised last night about 2 threads after I said it and said it wasnt aimed at anyone and I was venting.
This is not me making excuses BUt ppl seem to be getting kick out of broadcasting whats going on and throwing weight about........... like chuffin Judge Judy on here.
Banned for life?? Having a nickname 'Crazy'Ben u should be banned for life, totally unacceptable, same thing. Ive tried apologising and drawing a line under it but some ppl cant let go...........
People are taking this too far and need a bit of a reality check IMO.
Language is amazing and people use these kind of slang terms without thinking the true meaning of them. The phrase use in question is something that I hear a lot of, and to be honest when I hear it I don't then think of the disability that its meant to be slang for, but just associate it with various other terms that have that kind of meaning.
A lot of people my age use the word 'gay', for example, to describe certain things.
Terms like mental/insane/demented all have far more serious menanings and have done for many years. But when we read them on a poker forum we just assume that the player was doing some unorthodox things or a massive turn card hit or someone was on tilt or something. We aren't actually there thinking that the villain in the hand was Charles Bronson, grinding away while sitting in his cell in Broadmoor.
Yes that phrase used is slightly different in that its not in general use, so can understand the shock, but language is an amazing thing and who knows where it will go.
A word like hysterical proves this. A normal everyday word nowadays, but 200 years ago meant something very different....
crazyben is taking the mick Peacock....if you saw the comments he made about sky regs on his twitter you would understand
um yeah I think that there has been an over-reaction from people here and Peacock has been put in the firing line.
The Teams are meant to be a fun thing and kudos to people like Elsa/DJBlacke/Irishrover/Scouse Red/Poker Trev/Hitman RV/Maxally and loads of other promonient Sky Players who take part in them.
But having a mock court and dishing out ultimatiums about times in which an apology should be made and then also automatically assuming because someone used a slang phrase that this is actually their moral view on the subject is crossing the line and I think ALL of the team captains should use this as a lesson for future issues that arise.
I can see why those who are in charge at Team 51 took the line that they did tho.
finally to Peacock don't feel too bad about it. we all make mistakes and don't let this episode stop you from playing on Sky or joiining in on the forum...just be more careful about what you write
keep grinding away and get good results and maybe with a bit of luck you'll be able to join Team Sky Poker anyways
Give the guy a break he has apologised on this thread and elsewhere as requested. It is obvious that Peacock10 knows he did wrong, I'm not sure it needs every tom, d ick and harry coming on to give him yet another kick. Tikay was right and what he said in the apology thread in area51 should have been enough, in response Peacock10 immediately apologised again. Shocking as it is to me I agree with scotty77, people are taking this too far.
As for the pm an apology was delivered at 10.06 9 minutes prior to this thread being started at 10.15, this thread was also created 15 minutes before the stated 10.30 deadline. Why then the exclusion? Why the need for this thread which has only served to highlight the events to a wider audience. This smacks of a kangaroo court to me, he did wrong, he knows it but his exclusion comes over as heavy handed and I have no wish to belong to a group that acts in such a high handed manner, therefore I will join Peacock10 on the sidelines by resigning from Team 51 or Team 49 as it is now.
FORGIVENESS PEOPLE PLEASE THOU ART PEACOCK HAVE SINNED AND HAS REPENTED, DO NOT JUDGE HIM ON ONE WORD ALONE BUT FORGIVE AND FORGET IT NOW. UNLESS YOU SHALT BE A NAUGHTY BOY AND DO IT AGAIN THERE WILL BE THE WRATH OF THE FORUMS. I FIND IT INSULTING THAT GREGHOGG IS A TOTTY FAN FOR F.E.C.K.S SAKE BUT I WOULDNT TELL EVERYONE ABOUT IT HES GOT ENOUGH TROUBLES
AND SHOULDNT THIS BE IN TEAM TALK NOT GENERAL SECTION!
Give the guy a break he has apologised on this thread and elsewhere as requested. It is obvious that Peacock10 knows he did wrong, I'm not sure it needs every tom, d ick and harry coming on to give him yet another kick. Tikay was right and what he said in the apology thread in area51 should have been enough, in response Peacock10 immediately apologised again. Shocking as it is to me I agree with scotty77, people are taking this too far. As for the pm an apology was delivered at 10.06 9 minutes prior to this thread being started at 10.15, this thread was also created 15 minutes before the stated 10.30 deadline. Why then the exclusion? Why the need for this thread which has only served to highlight the events to a wider audience. This smacks of a kangaroo court to me, he did wrong, he knows it but his exclusion comes over as heavy handed and I have no wish to belong to a group that acts in such a high handed manner, therefore I will join Peacock10 on the sidelines by resigning from Team 51 or Team 49 as it is now. Posted by stien
Stein: This was not a kangaroo court as you call it. If you had taken the opportunity to frequent the team51 FB page you would have seen the reaction of all the team members on there, to the remarks made. The opinion of all team members was that the remarks had crossed the line and it was an embarrassment to the team as a whole. If you wish to leave team51 as a protest to the decision the rest of the team took, then your resignation is accepted without hesitation.
There are sky members with children and relatives who have downs syndrome etc and as team51 captain I could never justify to them, having a member who uses such derogatory language to compare poker players to the disabled, handicapped and less fortunate members of society.
Scotty: As a member of Team Sky Poker you think we have gone too far because we as a team of players find the comparison of bad poker players to the mentally handicapped unacceptable. I would be interested to know just what kind of remarks you do find unacceptable. As the current ''face of Sky'' I find your involvement intriguing.
In Response to Re: Unacceptable Behaviour : I've never seen derogatory remarks made towards downs syndrome sufferers and the mentally disabled on here before. I took a decision to exclude the team member for the offensive remarks and it will stand. Posted by elsadog
+1 HERE IS WHY >>>
I think most of you know me by now on here, i speak my mind and is my own man .
At first i thought it unfair he should not get a second chance & my intention was to argue his case & get him reinstated . But in doing so after discussion over 2 hours last night with a few peeps,
who were around when he repeated his muck , hence here the repeating part with a 30 mins time frame is just inexcusable .
Plus His choice ,
no one else,s but him left the muck there all morning
afternoon and most of the evening without care of it offending or it being deleted by a mod .
Then very late 10 pm ish at night time he apologizes .
so the time frame is key here.
Had it being a rant & quick apology on a drunking friday night ,
things may have being different .
Denis
p.s One thing i instill in my kids & live by ,
anyone on planet earth with less
ability mentally or physically then you,
deserve a lot more respect & need to be looked up to for carrying their
Comments
Yes i'm offended, do you think it's easy getting custard pies thrown in your face all day ??????!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!
.......and don't get me started on wearing these stupid shoes and trying to drive a car when the doors keep falling off and the engine explodes.
: )
Good decision Area51.
I've never seen derogatory remarks made towards downs syndrome sufferers and the mentally disabled on here before.
I took a decision to exclude the team member for the offensive remarks and it will stand.
Listen lets get something straight OK I chose some bad wording, which rightly offended some / a player on here, HOWEVER I did not post a thread insulting anybody with a mental illness or downs.
I did use the word downs to describe ppls decision making ability, that I accept, but I did NOT mean it in any way to mean I dislike or discriminate against anybody.
Other people on here use the term 'tard all the time which has the same derogitory meaning as anything I came out with.
I have apologised but wont continue to do so like Ive commited crime of the century nor will I put up with people stretching what has been said.
As for the team issue............AR SED????
You've still said it and it's still offensive and totally unnecessary.
This is not me making excuses BUt ppl seem to be getting kick out of broadcasting whats going on and throwing weight about........... like chuffin Judge Judy on here.
Having a nickname 'Crazy'Ben u should be banned for life, totally unacceptable, same thing.
Ive tried apologising and drawing a line under it but some ppl cant let go...........
There are sky members with children and relatives who have downs syndrome etc and as team51 captain I could never justify to them, having a member who uses such derogatory language to compare poker players to the disabled, handicapped and less fortunate members of society.
Scotty: As a member of Team Sky Poker you think we have gone too far because we as a team of players find the comparison of bad poker players to the mentally handicapped unacceptable. I would be interested to know just what kind of remarks you do find unacceptable. As the current ''face of Sky'' I find your involvement intriguing.
I think most of you know me by now on here,
i speak my mind and
is my own man .
At first i thought it unfair he should not get a second chance & my intention was to argue his case & get him reinstated .
But in doing so after discussion over 2 hours last night with a few peeps,
who were around when he repeated his muck , hence here the repeating part with a 30 mins time frame is just inexcusable .
Plus His choice ,
no one else,s but him left the muck there all morning
afternoon and most of the evening without care of it offending or it being deleted by a mod .
Then very late 10 pm ish at night time he apologizes .
so the time frame is key here.
Had it being a rant & quick apology on a drunking friday night ,
things may have being different .
Denis
p.s One thing i instill in my kids & live by ,
anyone on planet earth with less
ability mentally or physically then you,
deserve a lot more respect & need to be looked up to for carrying their
disabilities through life .
The strong & the rich & the famous & the able,
they are lucky they can look after themselves .