In Response to Re: AK vs NL4 reg. Thoughts please : Exactly what I was thinking, interesting to know what part of your "narrow" range - as Rancid puts it - he expecting you to fold here.. Posted by step7
Indeed there's not much of that range he folds, like Juggle says probably only AK/AA tbh so in hindsight he will not be folding the majority of the time. Infact like gran says at NL4 it's very hard to get anyone to fold. But it's not something I would do v some random so... But thats the beauty of the semi bluff isn't it, if it dont' work you hopefully have outs )
In Response to Re: AK vs NL4 reg. Thoughts please : lol ofc not, i was saying if they have str/set then they are not folding - ie the only tight range I can fold out is AK from a very tight open on that flop Therefore instead of flatting v a tight open - it would make more sense to flat v a wide open therefore giving yourself more of a chance oppo will fold to the semi bluff on the flop or play position v there wide open Just talking about the play in general not his very hand ) And yes Dudeskin, it would be setting fire to money if you always done this with SC's, we agree on that ) Posted by rancid
Just fold them man, there is zero need to play them at NL4, sooner you realise that the sooner you'll beat the level.
In Response to Re: AK vs NL4 reg. Thoughts please : Just fold them man, there is zero need to play them at NL4, sooner you realise that the sooner you'll beat the level. Posted by Dudeskin8
I know that, you that, infact everyone knows that
Doesn't mean we can't discuss the wider picture here, or do we not talk about poker here - just spew the rules of ABC NL4 poker I mean you speaking to someone who was converted a long time ago regarding playing ABC at NL4.
Dudeskin, its possible there are other ways to beat 4NL that do not involve playing the exact same way as you did to beat it.
Like, for example, Im pretty sure you could beat it doing something like never flatting a bet. Wouldnt mean its optimal though. I would think scs can be played profitably in certain situations at 4NL (not saying this hand is one of them), although I wouldnt be playing them too often
OK forget we playing NL4, you just picked the worsed board possible for your 'semi-bluff'. You've conceded you've got very little fold equity against his range. If you'll accept that he is very rarely cbetting here as a bluff then your actual equity is very low here too! Off the top of my head he could be holding A9s (no club) at worse - this puts you just the right side of a coin flip. The whole of a typical reg MP opening range whacking you 3:2?
Rancid, I liked the idea tbh, but you just picked a flop that smacked his range right in the face.
I think if you are playing a nitty reg then flatting a raise pre with any two, may be profitable, if you can take it away on flops that don't hit their range. If Juggle is overly tight then this will be most of them.
Dudeskin, its possible there are other ways to beat 4NL that do not involve playing the exact same way as you did to beat it. Like, for example, Im pretty sure you could beat it doing something like never flatting a bet. Wouldnt mean its optimal though. I would think scs can be played profitably in certain situations at 4NL (not saying this hand is one of them), although I wouldnt be playing them too often Posted by grantorino
Yh obvz, I'm just giving advice to someone who clearly wants to get out of the level and the way I played it I got out in less than 2 months, granted that's not anything special but still I'm out now and very comfortable for NL4/8 and 10.
I do play SC's at levels I play now but always raise with them IP giving me control to cbet or hit big, not flatting LARGE raises and hoping to hit a flush/str8 draw/2pr/trips.
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But it's not something I would do v some random so...
But thats the beauty of the semi bluff isn't it, if it dont' work you hopefully have outs )
Doesn't mean we can't discuss the wider picture here, or do we not talk about poker here - just spew the rules of ABC NL4 poker
Like, for example, Im pretty sure you could beat it doing something like never flatting a bet. Wouldnt mean its optimal though. I would think scs can be played profitably in certain situations at 4NL (not saying this hand is one of them), although I wouldnt be playing them too often
Rancid, I liked the idea tbh, but you just picked a flop that smacked his range right in the face.
I think if you are playing a nitty reg then flatting a raise pre with any two, may be profitable, if you can take it away on flops that don't hit their range. If Juggle is overly tight then this will be most of them.