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SPT Structure and Payouts

SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
edited November 2009 in The Sky Poker Tour
In response to some questions on this board:

For Manchester, assuming a full 150 players:

15 paid. (Approximate percentages shown)
 
1 27.5% £4,000
2 17% £2,650
3 12% £1,800
4 9% £1,350
5 7% £1,050
6 6% £900
7 5% £750
8 4% £600
9 3% £450
10-15 1.75% each £250
 
 
Structure
 
30 min levels, 5000 starting
 
150 players, 750,000 in play
 
2.00pm  25-50
2.30pm  50-100
3.00pm  100-200
3.30pm  200-400
4.00pm  15 minute break
4.15pm  300-600
4.45pm  400-800
5.15pm  600-1200
5.45pm  800-1600
6.15pm  45 minute buffet break
7.00pm  1000-2000
7.30pm  1500-3000
8.00pm  2000-4000
8.30pm  3000-6000
9.00pm 15 minute break
9.15pm  4000-8000
9.45pm  5000-10000
10.15pm 6000-12000
10.45pm 8000-16000
11pm 15 minute break (or coincide break for start of final) 
11.15pm 10000-20000
11.45pm 15000-30000
12.15am 20000-40000
12.45am 30000-60000

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    FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2009
    Good to see what the payouts are before we start!!!.. Thanks for that..

     Bit worried about the steep jumps in blinds though :S... no 75/150 level or 150/300 etc etc but that looks to be counterd slightly by the removal of ante's?
     Is that correct?
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    SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    Good to see what the payouts are before we start!!!.. Thanks for that..  Bit worried about the steep jumps in blinds though :S... no 75/150 level or 150/300 etc etc but that looks to be counterd slightly by the removal of ante's?  Is that correct?
    Posted by FlashFlush
    It's a structure that has to deal with a tournament that has to be over in one day, with 150 runners. The "filler" levels as I describe them do make for more play, but unless you want a final at 2-4am they are not possible to fit in

    Did last year's SUKPT (as was) have ante's in?
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2009
    yes im not sure exactly what levels they started at though.... think it may of been around 400 with a 25 ante...

     Hey Ho im not going to argue with you about running trnys, you have probably run more than I have had hot dinners. Just dont remember the jumps as big last yr but did have ante's was wondering if it was a conscious change or not.
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    SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited October 2009
    Not a conscious change

    Thanks for the feedback, I need to try and find last year's strucutre from somewhere, you've piqued my interest.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 162,027
    edited October 2009

    I think it's the same or similar, to last year.

    I confess I may be the culprit if it's wrong. I designed the Structure for the SPUKT last year, it worked well, so we decided to use it again this year.

    So SPT Rich asked me to find it - but I was unable to. Last year, I Blogged it, e-Mailed it, sent it to all the Cardrooms,  but now I can't trace it anywhere.

    SPT Rich kept chasing me for it - quite correctly - but I eventullly fessed up & told him I could not find it. So he designed it, sent it to me, I said it looked about right, & he went with it.

    So, blame me if it's wrong. We would review it after Leg One if it was too fast, or slow, of course, but the Sky Poker Players seem quite comfy most structures.
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    I think it's the same or similar, to last year. I confess I may be the culprit if it's wrong. I designed the Structure for the SPUKT last year, it worked well, so we decided to use it again this year. So SPT Rich asked me to find it - but I was unable to. Last year, I Blogged it, e-Mailed it, sent it to all the Cardrooms,  but now I can't trace it anywhere. SPT Rich kept chasing me for it - quite correctly - but I eventullly fessed up & told him I could not find it. So he designed it, sent it to me, I said it looked about right, & he went with it. So, blame me if it's wrong. We would review it after Leg One if it was too fast, or slow, of course, but the Sky Poker Players seem quite comfy most structures.
    Posted by Tikay10
     Well this year is a whole new tour obviously, new name, new (well added) people running it, different buyin etc etc.. so we cant say anything is "wrong". Last years format worked very well, and im sure this years will also. The only reason i commented is a saw by the time we come back from the 1st break the blinds will be 600 (i think) so if you havent made any chips by then you ar all in or fold. Then I noticed there were no ante's so presumed there was a switch around. It may just be as the structure wasn't on show (because we didnt have this great forum)  it is the same and I just didnt notice last year. I do know it did have ante's (personally I prefer no ante's anyway) on a 10 seated table means I can be more of a rock that usual :D

     P.S less than 2 weeks to go!!!
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    SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,736
    edited October 2009
    Thanks for the details.  Not being a regular live player, can you tell me how many hands you would expect at each level?  Thanks.
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    Thanks for the details.  Not being a regular live player, can you tell me how many hands you would expect at each level?  Thanks.
    Posted by SoLack
    I would say anywhere between 1 minute (over preflop) to up to about 10 minutes this wud include the shuffle and everything....
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    Grimstar30Grimstar30 Member Posts: 1,400
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    I think it's the same or similar, to last year. I confess I may be the culprit if it's wrong. I designed the Structure for the SPUKT last year, it worked well, so we decided to use it again this year. So SPT Rich asked me to find it - but I was unable to. Last year, I Blogged it, e-Mailed it, sent it to all the Cardrooms,  but now I can't trace it anywhere. SPT Rich kept chasing me for it - quite correctly - but I eventullly fessed up & told him I could not find it. So he designed it, sent it to me, I said it looked about right, & he went with it. So, blame me if it's wrong. We would review it after Leg One if it was too fast, or slow, of course, but the Sky Poker Players seem quite comfy most structures.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Using my renowned research skills, this link contains last year's structures:
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 162,027
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts : Using my renowned research skills, this link contains last year's structures: https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=pkrpromo_spuktedinburghleg3
    Posted by Grimstar30
    Good Spot Glum!

    I searched for an age for that Blog, as I knew I'd detailed the Structure, but I could not find it. Bravo you. Permission to give Alan a hug & a kiss is granted.

    It's SPT Rich's call this year, so he'll take a look at it &, well, it's up to him. 

    Thank you for that.
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    Grimstar30Grimstar30 Member Posts: 1,400
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts : Good Spot Glum! I searched for an age for that Blog, as I knew I'd detailed the Structure, but I could not find it. Bravo you. Permission to give Alan a hug & a kiss is granted. It's SPT Rich's call this year, so he'll take a look at it &, well, it's up to him.  Thank you for that.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Thank you 'boss' ;)

    Hope that the information can come in handy.
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    DELTADELTA Member Posts: 639
    edited October 2009
    wow blinds are a bit steep......
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2009
    WOW, can i just say i have an excellent memory :-) smack on 400 as BB the ante's started at 25... Take a bow son take a bow.

    Well a new year a new tour, we can either copy last yrs structure or try a new one. This is only leg 1, if it doesnt work we can always change it. Or play it safe and stick to what we know...
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    repton3repton3 Member Posts: 185
    edited October 2009
    Last years look a bit nicer in terms of allowing more of a chance to accumulate chips before the steepness sets in, I guess then antes then hurry proceedings along a little.

    It's going to be great fun either way though.
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    SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited October 2009
    Thanks for finding that

    I'll adjust last year's slightly as we have a bigger field playing and we'll revert to that sort of structure
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    Grimstar30Grimstar30 Member Posts: 1,400
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    Thanks for finding that I'll adjust last year's slightly as we have a bigger field playing and we'll revert to that sort of structure
    Posted by SPT
    Glad to have been of help Rich. I need to go visit the 'other' forum tomorrow. I hope everyone is going to have a great time in Manchester.
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    SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited October 2009
    Revised structure.....one less level than last year to reflect extra runners and need to get it finished in time

    Revised Structure   30 min levels, 5000 starting   150 players, 750,000 in play  2.00pm  25-50 2.30pm  50-100 3.00pm  100-200  3.30pm  150-300 4.00pm  15 minute break 4.15pm  200-400  25 4.45pm  300-600  50 5.15pm  400-800  100 5.45pm  600-1200 100 6.15pm  45 min buffet break 6.45pm  800-1600 200 7.15pm  1000-2000 200 7.45pm  1500-3000 300 8.15pm  2000-4000 400 8.30pm 15 minute break 8.45pm  3000-6000 600 9.15pm  4000-8000 800 9.45pm  5000-10000 1000 10.15pm 6000-12000 1000 10.45pm 15 minute break 11pm 8000-16000 1500 11.30pm 10000-20000 2000 12am 15000-30000 3000 12.30am 20000-40000 4000  
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    FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited October 2009
    Excellent stuff Rich. Thanks for listening to everyone, another player mesasged me about his concern over the structure echoing what I said about less than 10 blinds after only 2 hours (I wont name his because he hasn't commented on here). I said after you went to revise the structure I imagine it will be the same as last yr with 1 level missing. :-)

     Really looking forward to it, can't wait :-)
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    SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,736
    edited October 2009
    Don't like to be pedantic (much).... but

    1.  You have only allocated 30 minutes for the 45 minute buffet break (could cause indegestion)
    2.  The 2000/4000 level only has 15 mins
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    SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: SPT Structure and Payouts:
    Don't like to be pedantic (much).... but 1.  You have only allocated 30 minutes for the 45 minute buffet break (could cause indegestion) 2.  The 2000/4000 level only has 15 mins
    Posted by SoLack
    Just testing!
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