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Why won't he play me?

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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    i have seen sparce playback a couple of yrs ago and the guy is THE most aggro player i have ever seen. very tom dwan. personally i very much doubt they would play each other, why would they want to?
    Posted by pod1
    I think if reds sat down at Sparce's table then he would play, as seen on mastercash he will happily play against other big winners HU such as LOL_RAISE

    Oh and i was talking to a very high stakes HU player a couple weeks ago, and he said there were quite a few players beter than lolufold (and he has played against nearly all the top regs)
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited December 2011
    6 max def, dont see any logic in playing against each other unless its for bragging rights. but you cant cash ego so whats the point

  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    6 max def, dont see any logic in playing against each other unless its for bragging rights. but you cant cash ego so whats the point
    Posted by pod1
    What I mean is half the top of the pots hands were him HU against LOL_RAISE

    I have heard a couple of the highest stakes regs say he is better than Lolufold so I think he would happily play.

    It probably is just a pride/fun thing.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited December 2011
    dont get me wrong i seen sparce play hu and live in mtts and he is class.(tbf i think in hu better than reds). but the site i think would be the main winner (rake). like you say its prob a fun/pride thing. " i got the biggest  ...."
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited December 2011
    when i played at spt in luton last year "rumours"
     were he had a 100k roll on here. only a youngster too!!

  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    when i played at spt in luton last year "rumours"  were he had a 100k roll on here. only a youngster too!!
    Posted by pod1
    I is sooo jealous!
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    good luck to the guy hes obviously done alot of hardwork 2 reach where he is 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    Sorry Donk but you are just like a complete catalogue of poker cliches and it is insane for you to say Sparce would definitely take Redmond down HU. I'm not saying not saying Redmond would crush Sparce either but as many have said, it would be VERY even and likely come down to basic variance, coolers/flips etc.

    Redmond doesn't play HU with Sparce because even if he did think he had a small edge, why play someone you can be 6/10 times, when he could play a fish he can be 9/10 times. It's the basic rule of poker...play against players worse than you.

    It's like saying (if you assume Phil Ivey is number 1 in the world), why wouldnt Phil Ivey wanna play against the 5th best guy in the world, well he could beat him cos he's better but why not play the 100th best guy in the world and crush him?
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : I think if reds sat down at Sparce's table then he would play, as seen on mastercash he will happily play against other big winners HU such as LOL_RAISE Oh and i was talking to a very high stakes HU player a couple weeks ago, and he said there were quite a few players beter than lolufold (and he has played against nearly all the top regs)
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    i think what you have to consider sometimes is that some players have a game that maybe your good against. Others will have a game your worse against.

    e.g. Reds could be easy for some because their oppos his play suits there style. Where as to others would have to adapt. i fully believe that the best players can adapt bu u gta get ur readz first.
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : i think what you have to consider sometimes is that some players have a game that maybe your good against. Others will have a game your worse against. e.g. Reds could be easy for some because their oppos his play suits there style. Where as to others would have to adapt. i fully believe that the best players can adapt bu u gta get ur readz first.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Gd post this imo , what do you think of the comment made earlier that reds WOULD beat the likes of me and you 9 out of 10 times ?

    surely thats optimistic.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : Gd post this imo , what do you think of the comment made earlier that reds WOULD beat the likes of me and you 9 out of 10 times ? surely thats optimistic.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    lol debs 10/10 for u obviously :) im saying although we play hu lower he would still have such a big edge we would only win if we are lucky or variance.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : Gd post this imo , what do you think of the comment made earlier that reds WOULD beat the likes of me and you 9 out of 10 times ? surely thats optimistic.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    in my opinion lots of facotrs have to be taken into consideration

    Variance
    Tiredness
    Consentration
    Water
    Have you been to the bathroom
    Are you comfortable, sitting and in roll


    Those are just some i cba to think of them all atm however i rekon theres so many variables as to why people such as you or me could beat reds once in a while.

    Take for example, id play dohhh or young gun HU probably most days of the week. Put Greghogg next to me and im hitting sit out quicker than Erick Sidel made his millions.

    However this does nt mean that with the right variables at the right time i wont play and beat greg.
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : lol debs 10/10 for u obviously :) im saying although we play hu lower he would still have such a big edge we would only win if we are lucky or variance.
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    ;)No way over time could i be a consistent winner vs reds OR any of these players but for the likes of me , you don etc i just very very much doubt reds OR any of them would beat us 9-1 in a hu match.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : ;) No way over time could i be a consistent winner vs reds OR any of these players but for the likes of me , you don etc i just very very much doubt reds OR any of them would beat us 9-1 in a hu match.
    Posted by debdobs_67
    It can happen i lost 5-0nil to M4D so anything can happen but im just making a point that he has played 100 times similar ppl to us so it wont be a shock or anything and the main reason our end will win is luck/variance
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : It can happen i lost 5-0nil to M4D so anything can happen but im just making a point that he has played 100 times similar ppl to us so it wont be a shock or anything and the main reason our end will win is luck/variance
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    but thats because u needs to learn how to play the game
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : but thats because u needs to learn how to play the game
    Posted by The_Don90
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me?:
    In Response to Re: Why won't he play me? : lol debs 10/10 for u obviously :) im saying although we play hu lower he would still have such a big edge we would only win if we are lucky or variance.
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Well technically if he plays better than us we only ever win when we get lucky

    If we are talking about HU sngs for someone to expect to win more than 9/10 would be a huge edge. I would think a decent micro stakes winning hu player could expect to win more than 1/10 v some of the names mentioned here. they would be a pretty big dog longterm, but over a few games I doubt it. Who hasnt lost 2,3 SNGs in a row to a fish

    If its HU cash it would depend a lot on stack depth and how many hands we define as a game. Also there are ways to reduce a better players edge. But I wouldnt think someone like redmonds edge over a low stakes winning hu player would be anymore than the lowstakes player over a complete fish. And we dont always win v them in the short run.
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